instead of the automatic one, just choose the create new option
i think i had that same problem earlier with a new laptop and the problem went away after that

if you haven't imported ur old mumble cert you're gonna have to just make one

note that this is annoying because any server you used to be registered on will require you to be unregistered to free up whatever name you were using, re-register you, then restore whatever permissions you were given.

i'm pretty sure pyro can still reflect projectiles shot at it's back by accident

Bump, think i wanna do some tryouts

thank mr capnnofapn

These are good points, and the part you mentioned about log whores is true, and the whole log thing would be a good conversation elsewhere

However, I think the reason people sorta just 'give up' as you say when a pyro comes into play and its wrecking havoc, isn't because we don't know how to deal with it per se, coordinated hit scan fire exists after all, it's more like, the thought about how much effort it will be to deal with something that's really not fun to deal with, especially in an uncoordinated environment, especially for projectile classes, (airblast fucking your movement mechanic, flames doing an unholy amount of damage for what feels like little tracking ability/effort), and people, given that it's, 'just a pug', really won't be inclined to prolong the experience by trying very hard at that point. or they'll counter off-class leading to more off-classing and throwing and the whole pug has gone down the drain.

complain about the mindset all you wish but that's how it is.

If you want people to accept pyro as being a legitimate class and a meaningful addition to gameplay, you'll have to convince them that playing as and fighting a full time pyro is just as much fun and interesting as the experience that originally drew them to playing their chosen class and sixes in general, and i'm afraid you'll probably have trouble on that front.

like sure pyro has many many advantages but they sorta boil down to 'man fuck airblast' or 'man i can't fucking see through these flames holy shit they do so much damage'

Also, pugchamp admins in general try to deal with that regular crew of consistent off-classers you're probably thinking of, but every time we dish out a ban for off-classing we get another thread like this. I'm not saying we stop banning people because of that, but it does get tiresome having to reply to these things

as I said before, we're trying to foster an environment that strikes a balance between competitive play and a casual fun environment, because it is 'just pugs'. A place where you can fight people who aren't so braindead its boring like on tf2c, and not so sweaty as scrims/matches allowing you to relax a bit.

so if you want to try and make pyro viable in your scrims with your team, I'd encourage that you do and would honestly love to see the results of that because that sort of thing can be rather interesting. I just ask that you don't do it when nearly 11 other people would be happier at the end of the day if you didn't fuck with their pug with such a widely hated set of mechanics, that in my opinion, have good reason for much of the hate.

as a side note I think Kaidus had a really good commentary on the whole logs issue a couple weeks ago on his stream and i wish i had it saved but i don't. all i remember is that he was watching an old viaduct demo for one of the i-series matches

you can say what you want about the meta, but if people really wanted to win no matter the stakes then you'd see a lot more gay strats a lot more often.

but we don't do this to each other because there's no money and we're here to enjoy our hobby

if you wanna be a dick that's your problem, because pugchamp has designed its ruleset to try and make pugs as enjoyable as possible for as many people as possible, and given the plethora of asshats who only seem to enjoy ruining other people's experiences, i'd say those rules are necessary, especially the offclass rules.

sure you can argue that if it's working or the enemy is failing to counter then it's their fault and not your problem...
or you could step back and realize that nobody wanted to join the pug with the express purpose of fulfilling your selfish delusion that you're revolutionizing tf2's meta for the better

they're there to have fun, and you're simply in the way, congratufuckinglations

i'm so confused as to why someone would plug random browser games

just ban this dude already both his posts look like viruses

yeah my bad i shoulda said it was autofellatio

catface: i live only to stroke my e-peen

yet again sniper mains ruin all that is sacred >:(

Yeah being able to disappear the minute i touch the spawn area has saved my life multiple times

Except in newer versions of granary where the spawn zone is a smaller square inside the shutter doors
@dagger FIX THIS

poor kid got backstabbed 5 times and sniped 3 lol

computers start counting from 0 typically instead of 1
So loadouts 0-3 are the four assigned to A-D

0 1 2 3
A B C D