Let's go point by point here: for point A, everything already does come out of pocket or is donated. As for the paid subscription thing, I feel to see how that is different than the already established donator perks, which gives donators a badge in chat. Though your system is monthly, I don't see people spending $5 a month for a chatt badge in Pugchamp, as unlike twitch, IT WOULD ONLY BE APPLICABLE IN ONE LOCATION.

B: You've already expressed some issues with this, like the queuing as a class idea. But there's also the issue that playing with friends becomes much harder, as (and I might be wrong here as I rarely use the system) queuing as a group of 6, if that's even allowed, takes longer to find matches in solo queue areas.

C. ESEA has an established pug system, and no one uses it.

D. TF2Center has a reputation for poor admins, this combined with their decision to mandate ads and other poor decision making leads me to think they aren't ideal candidates.

E. Valve doesn't do shit. We, as a community, don't have any evidence to support the fact that they give a shit about competitive tf2, except for what you and a few others have said. I'm not saying I don't trust you, I'm just saying that this shows very little commitment and support from Valve.

F. I fail to see how this would solve the main problems of pugchamp: lack of queued meds, and lack of servers.

To address other concerns about time taken for picks etc. Pugchamp currently works such that the system for server set up is entirely linear, the glitch which causes mumble info and server info to come out so late stems from the fact that the pugchamp system requires that step 1 be done before step 2, regardless of if step 1 actually leads to step 2. So if step 1 bugs out, the system cannot advance and continue getting the server set up until the glitch is resolved. As for streamlining the picking process, I don't really see what's wrong with the actual system of picking, besides the way that overrides work. A new pug system will not fix a lack of meds willing to play. Pugchamp mainly needs more servers, for both that and mixchamp. Once we have those, we can have a look at other issues.

You have to remember that competitive TF2 is not a very profitable community as of right now. For a community-run, free to use pug site to survive, it relies on the generosity of its users. Unless Pugchamp wants to be a completely aids site like TF2C and require users to not use adblock or pay, I doubt Pugchamp will find the funds for another server without more donations.

It was made, at least for invite players, but no one used it

the reason there are only 3 servers at a time is that we only have 3 servers. Player numbers are not the main problem, it's the lack of servers.Also, the problem with an elo based system is that elo is determined solely from win-rate. If you only play pugs that are at your level or above, you will lose more pugs than someone who plays pugs which are at their level and below. I really don't see any problem with human picking for this reason, as elo doesn't tell the whole story. I agree that pugchamp has issues, but captained teams are not one of them in my opinion. Look at mixchamp for example. THAT is entirely elo based, and that results in rolls just as frequently as pugchamp rolls, and not just in the cases where there are only 12 players. I agree that there should be time limit to join the server, but i also don't think an auto-report should be the method. Just having captain discretion should be enough there. But that's up for discussion, others will probably see differently.

IDK why they build up to the announcement. They're not really going to hype up a tournament by delaying its announcement to the point that it's barely possible for international attendance, it's just pissing the people who do want to attend off because it's making traveling much more difficult and expensive.

hard aimer

There are 7 teams currently listed in invite, so which aren't playing?

GET THIS MAN TO LAN

paging 80x

ATX

To the best of my knowledge, the only 6s player who is actively in touch with valve is b4nny. Everyone here has no control over anything officially done by valve, so we alter things that we can ourselves, like the whitelist. We can't touch official 6s, so why even bother thinking about changes for it when we have no say.

where is delpo??

Unfortunately, freedom and safety have always been juxtaposed. If you are 100% free to do what you wish, you aren't safe. But if you are100% safe, you aren't free. Unfortunately, the fears created by terrorism and other sources are causing more and more people to be ok with a reduction of freedom for an increase in safety. As dumb as her law is to me, there will be people who want to be safer, even if that means not doing what they want. The only way to prevent this from happening is to vote, SO REGISTER YOURSELF.

maybe have the loser of 3.5 star and brain sense play nunya, seeing as nunya no longer have an opponent there, and Brain Sense and 3.5 star are both solid teams?

I was asked to post this by Psi:
Psi: I got perma banned from pugchamp
Psi: perma banned from tf2.tv
Psi: and for some reason also from tf2center lmao

not sure why, but now i did

nvm wrong thread