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Info me on Razer Abyssus 2014 mouse?
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Hello! I thought of getting a new mouse, and wonder if the Razer Abyssus 2014 works on for example 400 dpi normally. I used to have the old Abyssus, & it performed just perfectly, it broke due to mouse1 holder or something inside breaking in a strange way, but before it broke, I tried 450 DPI and changing in-game sens to fit it my normal sens, it felt strange as hell. I had the same cm/360, and it felt like I had a different sens, I then read later that many Razer mouses perform reliably only on the native(1800) DPI. Does this same problem also touch the Razer Abyssus 2014? Otherwise it's useless to pay 20€ more just to e able to change DPI to your own likings, but 1800 actually being only one working properly. I also read about Abyssus having jitter problems, I never felt them, except maybe on the other DPI values (450, 3500)
I'm so far only looking between these 2, because my old Abyssus broke in November, and I got my bro's old G400, which also broke, and now looking at my possible mouse choices these 2 are what I'm choosing between, so yeah.

Hello! I thought of getting a new mouse, and wonder if the Razer Abyssus 2014 works on for example 400 dpi normally. I used to have the old Abyssus, & it performed just perfectly, it broke due to mouse1 holder or something inside breaking in a strange way, but before it broke, I tried 450 DPI and changing in-game sens to fit it my normal sens, it felt strange as hell. I had the same cm/360, and it felt like I had a different sens, I then read later that many Razer mouses perform reliably only on the native(1800) DPI. Does this same problem also touch the Razer Abyssus 2014? Otherwise it's useless to pay 20€ more just to e able to change DPI to your own likings, but 1800 actually being only one working properly. I also read about Abyssus having jitter problems, I never felt them, except maybe on the other DPI values (450, 3500)
I'm so far only looking between these 2, because my old Abyssus broke in November, and I got my bro's old G400, which also broke, and now looking at my possible mouse choices these 2 are what I'm choosing between, so yeah.
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the abyssus 2014 also uses the S3888, like the model before it.
native steps at 1800 and 3500. the 450 and 900 steps are calculated by the MCU (using the 1800 step).
tests done with the DA3.5G (uses the same sensor) showed jitter at 1000hz, so you might want to leave any S3888 mouse at 500hz.

you could look into the PMW3310. it's a popular sensor, very flexible when it comes to DPI (every 50 DPI = a native step).

the abyssus 2014 also uses the S3888, like the model before it.
native steps at 1800 and 3500. the 450 and 900 steps are calculated by the MCU (using the 1800 step).
tests done with the DA3.5G (uses the same sensor) showed jitter at 1000hz, so you might want to leave any S3888 mouse at 500hz.

you could look into the PMW3310. it's a popular sensor, very flexible when it comes to DPI (every 50 DPI = a native step).
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I would highly recommend the G400s. It has what is known to be a perfect sensor and is used by many. Although it is becoming quite expensive on Amazon due to it being discontinued. I would still recommend this mouse if you're willing to shell out the cash.

I would highly recommend the G400s. It has what is known to be a perfect sensor and is used by many. Although it is becoming quite expensive on [url=http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G400s-910-003589-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00BCEK2LA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452646349&sr=8-1&keywords=g400s&tag=teamfortresst-20]Amazon[/url] due to it being discontinued. I would still recommend this mouse if you're willing to shell out the cash.
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Klutz_I would highly recommend the G400s. It has what is known to be a perfect sensor and is used by many. Although it is becoming quite expensive on Amazon due to it being discontinued. I would still recommend this mouse if you're willing to shell out the cash.

I KNOW MAN I KNOW</3 I was considering that the most, but yeah the fact it's fairly expensive, and I can't really know what's the "Very good shape" when it arrives here. It's also too expensive. I wish they continued it, or at least made another follower or something. But my choice is probably the abyssus as I played pretty much as well with it as with the logitech one, now obviously I'd really really want to have the logitech, but no can do.

[quote=Klutz_]I would highly recommend the G400s. It has what is known to be a perfect sensor and is used by many. Although it is becoming quite expensive on [url=http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G400s-910-003589-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00BCEK2LA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452646349&sr=8-1&keywords=g400s&tag=teamfortresst-20]Amazon[/url] due to it being discontinued. I would still recommend this mouse if you're willing to shell out the cash.[/quote]
I KNOW MAN I KNOW</3 I was considering that the most, but yeah the fact it's fairly expensive, and I can't really know what's the "Very good shape" when it arrives here. It's also too expensive. I wish they continued it, or at least made another follower or something. But my choice is probably the abyssus as I played pretty much as well with it as with the logitech one, now obviously I'd really really want to have the logitech, but no can do.
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Bucakethe abyssus 2014 also uses the S3888, like the model before it.
native steps at 1800 and 3500. the 450 and 900 steps are calculated by the MCU (using the 1800 step).
tests done with the DA3.5G (uses the same sensor) showed jitter at 1000hz, so you might want to leave any S3888 mouse at 500hz.

you could look into the PMW3310. it's a popular sensor, very flexible when it comes to DPI (every 50 DPI = a native step).

The old Abyssus had only option between 125hz or 1000hz.
Edit: What would you say is the best sensor or something when we look at for example one in logitech g400s.
Edit2: I actually look for a mouse that works simply properly with 400 DPI, I don't necessary need much flexibility with the dpi changin'

[quote=Bucake]the abyssus 2014 also uses the S3888, like the model before it.
native steps at 1800 and 3500. the 450 and 900 steps are calculated by the MCU (using the 1800 step).
tests done with the DA3.5G (uses the same sensor) showed jitter at 1000hz, so you might want to leave any S3888 mouse at 500hz.

you could look into the PMW3310. it's a popular sensor, very flexible when it comes to DPI (every 50 DPI = a native step).[/quote]
The old Abyssus had only option between 125hz or 1000hz.
Edit: What would you say is the best sensor or something when we look at for example one in logitech g400s.
Edit2: I actually look for a mouse that works simply properly with 400 DPI, I don't necessary need much flexibility with the dpi changin'
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the PWM3310 is a good choice for 400 dpi because every step of 50 is native to the sensor. so for example 400, 450, 1200, 1800 etc should all work and feel just as good.
the PMW3660 has just gone public as well, so i presume that within the next few years there should be a stream of mice with this sensor. steelseries rival 700 with this sensor should be out soon.
currently, only the Logitech G303 and G502 use the 3660, but it's a very good sensor. every step of 50 is native for this sensor as well, so naturally it's a good choice if you want to use 400dpi.
a few razer mice should also be good options for 400dpi, like the DA chroma. these mice use the S3988 sensor, which (i think) also has every step of 50 native.

the "issue" with most older mice is that the 400 or 450 step is usually a processed step. this can potentially add things like delay or ripple. it's never as raw as non-processed steps, obviously.

the sensor of the G400S is a good one, but only the 800 and 4000 steps are native. using a sensor like this on 400dpi means that the mouse will throw away counts before sending the data to USB.
so it's not weird that the 450dpi step on your old mouse felt strange.

the PWM3310 is a good choice for 400 dpi because every step of 50 is native to the sensor. so for example 400, 450, 1200, 1800 etc should all work and feel just as good.
the PMW3660 has just gone public as well, so i presume that within the next few years there should be a stream of mice with this sensor. steelseries rival 700 with this sensor should be out soon.
currently, only the Logitech G303 and G502 use the 3660, but it's a very good sensor. every step of 50 is native for this sensor as well, so naturally it's a good choice if you want to use 400dpi.
a few razer mice should also be good options for 400dpi, like the DA chroma. these mice use the S3988 sensor, which (i think) also has every step of 50 native.

the "issue" with most older mice is that the 400 or 450 step is usually a processed step. this can potentially add things like delay or ripple. it's never as raw as non-processed steps, obviously.

the sensor of the G400S is a good one, but only the 800 and 4000 steps are native. using a sensor like this on 400dpi means that the mouse will throw away counts before sending the data to USB.
so it's not weird that the 450dpi step on your old mouse felt strange.
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just a warning: the rival 700 is 159 grams

I think it's still the same sensor from the old abyssus

just a warning: the rival 700 is 159 grams

I think it's still the same sensor from the old abyssus
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