tf2 on lunix

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shortbus

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since steam has gone over to Lunix for a little while now has anyone started to use it and if so hows does tf2 play on it

#2

Lights_

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>lunix

#3

clam

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>meme arrows

#4

shortbus

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great input guys thanks

#5

w0rdup

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once i finish my new rig this old one is gonna turn into a linux box

so i'll see then

once i finish my new rig this old one is gonna turn into a linux box

so i'll see then

#6

MrIKost

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From what I've heard Linux normally get higher fps than windows. I don't actually know anyone who uses it to play tf2.

#7

omp

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I had some problems getting Steam for Linux to run properly. Once I get it working, I'll be getting rid of Windows.

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bluee

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shortbussince steam has gone over to Lunix for a little while now has anyone started to use it and if so hows does tf2 play on it

Depends on how well your drivers work. The nvidia chip in my laptop runs only a little better than the Intel graphics, and it fucks up the fonts. However, the Intel drivers have improved a ton, and I'm getting basically the same fps as in Windows when forcing it to use the Intel card.

Another thing to consider is you are forced to use DX9. Same as on Mac, Valve didn't make a DX8 mode available, so if you use DX8 expect a performance drop.

Haven't done any timedemo tests myself, but yea, works well.

[quote=shortbus]since steam has gone over to Lunix for a little while now has anyone started to use it and if so hows does tf2 play on it[/quote]

Depends on how well your drivers work. The nvidia chip in my laptop runs only a little better than the Intel graphics, and it fucks up the fonts. However, the Intel drivers have improved a ton, and I'm getting basically the same fps as in Windows when forcing it to use the Intel card.

Another thing to consider is you are forced to use DX9. Same as on Mac, Valve didn't make a DX8 mode available, so if you use DX8 expect a performance drop.

Haven't done any timedemo tests myself, but yea, works well.

#9

omp

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blueeAnother thing to consider is you are forced to use DX9. Same as on Mac, Valve didn't make a DX8 mode available, so if you use DX8 expect a performance drop.

No.

[quote=bluee]Another thing to consider is you are forced to use DX9. Same as on Mac, Valve didn't make a DX8 mode available, so if you use DX8 expect a performance drop.[/quote]
No.

#10

bluee

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ompNo.

Oh? It crashed for me when I tried dxlevel 81, and some other sites seemed to say it was limited this way on osx/linux. If it's actually there and just buggy for me right now then happy days.

[quote=omp]No.[/quote]
Oh? It crashed for me when I tried dxlevel 81, and some other sites seemed to say it was limited this way on osx/linux. If it's actually there and just buggy for me right now then happy days.

#11

omp

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blueeOh? It crashed for me when I tried dxlevel 81, and some other sites seemed to say it was limited this way on osx/linux. If it's actually there and just buggy for me right now then happy days.

It doesn't use DirectX at all. OpenGL.

[edit] I should probably add that DirectX is a strictly Windows API, to avoid any confusion.

[quote=bluee]Oh? It crashed for me when I tried dxlevel 81, and some other sites seemed to say it was limited this way on osx/linux. If it's actually there and just buggy for me right now then happy days.[/quote]
It doesn't use DirectX at all. OpenGL.

[edit] I should probably add that DirectX is a strictly Windows API, to avoid any confusion.

#12

unknownuser123

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Can you guys stop saying Lunix?

#13

bluee

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ompIt doesn't use DirectX at all. OpenGL.

[edit] I should probably add that DirectX is a strictly Windows API, to avoid any confusion.

Yes, but the games still call DirectX functions, there's a layer in the engine to convert those to OpenGL functions on osx/linux. The problem is they only made it compatible with DX9 calls.

[quote=omp]It doesn't use DirectX at all. OpenGL.

[edit] I should probably add that DirectX is a strictly Windows API, to avoid any confusion.[/quote]

Yes, but the games still call DirectX functions, there's a layer in the engine to convert those to OpenGL functions on osx/linux. The problem is they only made it compatible with DX9 calls.

#14

Dave_

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brownymasterCan you guys stop saying Lunix?

I had no idea wtf he was talking about until someone said Linux.

[quote=brownymaster]Can you guys stop saying Lunix?[/quote]
I had no idea wtf he was talking about until someone said Linux.

#15

shortbus

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also is there anyway to transfer tf2 onto my lunix os since i duel boot or is that not possible

#16

NinjaDC

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shortbusalso is there anyway to transfer tf2 onto my lunix os since i duel boot or is that not possible

Copy the .gcf files over

[quote=shortbus]also is there anyway to transfer tf2 onto my lunix os since i duel boot or is that not possible[/quote]

Copy the .gcf files over

#17

unknownuser123

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Guys stop giving him advice for Linux, he's looking for advice on his Lunix OS. Only post if you know about Lunix, not Linux.

#18

omp

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix

#19

jp_

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brownymasterGuys stop giving him advice for Linux, he's looking for advice on his Lunix OS. Only post if you know about Lunix, not Linux.

I didn't get the joke till I got to this post...

Damn it...

[quote=brownymaster]Guys stop giving him advice for Linux, he's looking for advice on his Lunix OS. Only post if you know about Lunix, not Linux.[/quote]
I didn't get the joke till I got to this post...

Damn it...

#20

aim-

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#21

omp

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I wish I could -frag you twice for that, aim.

blueeYes, but the games still call DirectX functions, there's a layer in the engine to convert those to OpenGL functions on osx/linux. The problem is they only made it compatible with DX9 calls.

It's just a layer that translates DirectX calls to OpenGL ones; there should not be an intrinsic difference between DX8 calls and DX9 calls as far as performance is concerned. It would be a severe waste of development hours for Valve to add a similar layer for DX8 calls. Native OpenGL support aside, the smart thing to do would focus their efforts on optimising performance of their OpenGL calls.

I wish I could -frag you twice for that, aim.

[quote=bluee]Yes, but the games still call DirectX functions, there's a layer in the engine to convert those to OpenGL functions on osx/linux. The problem is they only made it compatible with DX9 calls.[/quote]
It's just a layer that translates DirectX calls to OpenGL ones; there should not be an intrinsic difference between DX8 calls and DX9 calls as far as performance is concerned. It would be a severe waste of development hours for Valve to add a similar layer for DX8 calls. Native OpenGL support aside, the smart thing to do would focus their efforts on optimising performance of their OpenGL calls.

#22

aim-

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ompI wish I could -frag you twice for that, aim.

I minus frag my own posts if it makes you happy.

[quote=omp]I wish I could -frag you twice for that, aim.[/quote]

I minus frag my own posts if it makes you happy.

#23

w0rdup

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-snip-

#24

bluee

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I should have worded my OP better.

ompIt would be a severe waste of development hours for Valve to add a similar layer for DX8 calls.

This was my original point; they didn't make a layer for DX8. So anyone who is using DX8 on Windows should expect a performance drop as they will be forced to use DX9-equivalent settings on Linux. I didn't mean translating from DX8 would be somehow slower than DX9.

I should have worded my OP better.
[quote=omp]It would be a severe waste of development hours for Valve to add a similar layer for DX8 calls.[/quote]
This was my original point; they didn't make a layer for DX8. So anyone who is using DX8 on Windows should expect a performance drop as they will be forced to use DX9-equivalent settings on Linux. I didn't mean translating from DX8 would be somehow slower than DX9.

#25

cinq

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The game runs very well (I have as much FPS on either OS), at least I didn't notice any differences. I am always above 120 (I would notice a dip below that with my 120HZ monitor). The game crashes as often on Linux than it was on Windows. On TF2 I have a very minor bug with the console that isn't working sometimes but I just tab in and out and it fixes the issue. Steam itself has a few bugs but they are also minors, anyway most of the bugs that I noticed got fixed. Steam has an update almost everyday, they seem to be working very hard on this.

#26

shortbus

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deos anyone know how long it takes to get beta access for linux when i go to log on it says i dont have beta access and terminates itself

#27

cinq

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Try that in any console / terminal, it should bypass the verification if you are enlisted or not to access the beta: steam steam://open/friends

#28

omp

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Out of curiosity, what distribution are you using, cinq?

#29

cinq

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Xubuntu, it's Ubuntu with the XFCE desktop environment.

#30

omp

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Hmm, I'll give Steam a try on Ubuntu. Will probably be a lot easier to get working.

I'll probably end up having to do the command-line install, since I really don't want GNOME/KDE/Xfce/LXDE/etc..

Hmm, I'll give Steam a try on Ubuntu. Will probably be a lot easier to get working.

I'll probably end up having to do the command-line install, since I really don't want GNOME/KDE/Xfce/LXDE/etc..