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Is this good for TF2?
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Hello everyone. I'm sorry to just pop in and then start asking questions off the bat. I do hope it's not bothersome!

You see, I'm in need of a new laptop, mainly because my 3 year old one is wonking out on me. It crashes, freeze, has drivers fail often if not constantly. the poor thing can't handle much anymore. I also want a new one because of wanting to play TF2 decently. On this one I can barely get 1-15 FPS on low settings WITH DX8! It's only 20-30 with Chris Max FPS Config, and it's troublesome as it always freezes whenever a Spy tickles me in the back. Quite annoying really...

Honestly, I just want to know if TF2 will be playable with this laptop. What I mean is... basically what the FPS will be at low and high settings. I tend to play in 800 x 600, only because it's pretty much impossible in full screen. I've tried to search what my FPS would be for weeks, but haven't found anything. Below are the spec of said Laptop... I hope they're not too bad, but considering when you've been playing a lappy with a Intel Dual Core and Series 4 express family anything is bound to look better.

Processor 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3632QM processor (6MB cache, up to 3.2Ghz)
Operating System Windows 8, 64-bit, English
Display 17.3" High Definition+ (900p) LED Display with Truelife
Memory2 8GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
Hard Drive 1TB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive
Video Card Nvidia GeForce GT 630M 1GB

I'd really appreciate a good estimate for these. Again I'm sorry for coming in randomly and asking questions. I thank everyone who helps, because honestly with getting it in the next couple weeks it's good to be prepared. thank you again, everyone!

Hello everyone. I'm sorry to just pop in and then start asking questions off the bat. I do hope it's not bothersome!

You see, I'm in need of a new laptop, mainly because my 3 year old one is wonking out on me. It crashes, freeze, has drivers fail often if not constantly. the poor thing can't handle much anymore. I also want a new one because of wanting to play TF2 decently. On this one I can barely get 1-15 FPS on low settings WITH DX8! It's only 20-30 with Chris Max FPS Config, and it's troublesome as it always freezes whenever a Spy tickles me in the back. Quite annoying really...

Honestly, I just want to know if TF2 will be playable with this laptop. What I mean is... basically what the FPS will be at low and high settings. I tend to play in 800 x 600, only because it's pretty much impossible in full screen. I've tried to search what my FPS would be for weeks, but haven't found anything. Below are the spec of said Laptop... I hope they're not too bad, but considering when you've been playing a lappy with a Intel Dual Core and Series 4 express family anything is bound to look better.

[b]Processor[/b] 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3632QM processor (6MB cache, up to 3.2Ghz)
[b]Operating System[/b] Windows 8, 64-bit, English
[b]Display[/b] 17.3" High Definition+ (900p) LED Display with Truelife
[b]Memory2[/b] 8GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
[b]Hard Drive[/b] 1TB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive
[b]Video Card[/b] Nvidia GeForce GT 630M 1GB

I'd really appreciate a good estimate for these. Again I'm sorry for coming in randomly and asking questions. I thank everyone who helps, because honestly with getting it in the next couple weeks it's good to be prepared. thank you again, everyone!
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yes

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The only thing issue I would see is your HDD. But that wouldnt hurt your performance much if any(I think), I would suggest upgrading to a high speed HDD, but thats just me.

The only thing issue I would see is your HDD. But that wouldnt hurt your performance much if any(I think), I would suggest upgrading to a high speed HDD, but thats just me.
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#5
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you could probably max out tf2 at a high res with 120+fps probably more, but 120 is basically all you would need. unless this laptop has a 120hz screen, then i guess 240fps would be good. but yeah, good laptop especially for tf2

you could probably max out tf2 at a high res with 120+fps probably more, but 120 is basically all you would need. unless this laptop has a 120hz screen, then i guess 240fps would be good. but yeah, good laptop especially for tf2
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I was in the same situation as you, used to get ~20 fps. I have pretty much those exact specs now and get 200+ constant.

I was in the same situation as you, used to get ~20 fps. I have pretty much those exact specs now and get 200+ constant.
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@Saber + Brownymaster - Short and simple, thank you :)

@Joe - Pardon me for my sillyness, but what is the HDD? Is it the harddrive? I'm not computer savvy. I'm ever so sorry!
Edit: I'm feel incredibly silly. I never knew the HDD affected such things.

@Devon - oh my gracious me! I guess the person who told me before was way off! 120 is quite the jump from 10. thank you~

@Saber + Brownymaster - Short and simple, thank you :)

@Joe - Pardon me for my sillyness, but what is the HDD? Is it the harddrive? I'm not computer savvy. I'm ever so sorry!
Edit: I'm feel incredibly silly. I never knew the HDD affected such things.

@Devon - oh my gracious me! I guess the person who told me before was way off! 120 is quite the jump from 10. thank you~
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#8
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haha yea it is, but im not that great with computers, but im pretty sure 7200 rpm for a hard drive is usually standard nowadays. Like I said I'm not that computer savvy though.

haha yea it is, but im not that great with computers, but im pretty sure 7200 rpm for a hard drive is usually standard nowadays. Like I said I'm not that computer savvy though.
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#9
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Thr gpu will drag down your processor a little and you could get a much better amd card for an equal price of that nvidia card. If anyone says don't go amd cards because of drivers, that's all hockey, they're only bad if you crossfire. Trust me been doing this stuff for a while. Also if you can try and get your hands on win7, win8 kinda sucks

Thr gpu will drag down your processor a little and you could get a much better amd card for an equal price of that nvidia card. If anyone says don't go amd cards because of drivers, that's all hockey, they're only bad if you crossfire. Trust me been doing this stuff for a while. Also if you can try and get your hands on win7, win8 kinda sucks
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#10
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just curious whats preventing you from getting a desktop?

just curious whats preventing you from getting a desktop?
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mjust curious whats preventing you from getting a desktop?

It needs to be portable for college, as well as mom refuses to get rid of our 2004 desktop with 30 GB hd and viruses so no more desktops as we already have one.

[quote=m]just curious whats preventing you from getting a desktop?[/quote]
It needs to be portable for college, as well as mom refuses to get rid of our 2004 desktop with 30 GB hd and viruses so no more desktops as we already have one.
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i used to buy gaming laptops (although i'm sure cooling technology has come a long way since then)

make sure your laptop stays cool while you play so you don't end up with melted junk like i have several times in the past

i used to buy gaming laptops (although i'm sure cooling technology has come a long way since then)

make sure your laptop stays cool while you play so you don't end up with melted junk like i have several times in the past
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cefyrinI was in the same situation as you, used to get ~20 fps. I have pretty much those exact specs now and get 200+ constant.

I had completely missed your reply yesterday! so sorry!
200+ is a super jumped from 20. I would guess a fps_limit would be in order?

Foxi used to buy gaming laptops (although I'm sure cooling technology has come a long way since then)

make sure your laptop stays cool while you play so you don't end up with melted junk like i have several times in the past

I wonder if that happened to this one as it's always gotten hot easily. I'll look into a cooling pad of sorts and see. thank you :)

[quote=cefyrin]I was in the same situation as you, used to get ~20 fps. I have pretty much those exact specs now and get 200+ constant.[/quote]
I had completely missed your reply yesterday! so sorry!
200+ is a super jumped from 20. I would guess a fps_limit would be in order?

[quote=Fox]i used to buy gaming laptops (although I'm sure cooling technology has come a long way since then)

make sure your laptop stays cool while you play so you don't end up with melted junk like i have several times in the past[/quote]
I wonder if that happened to this one as it's always gotten hot easily. I'll look into a cooling pad of sorts and see. thank you :)
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JOEThe only thing issue I would see is your HDD. But that wouldnt hurt your performance much if any(I think), I would suggest upgrading to a high speed HDD, but thats just me.

I've got the same speed HDD. As you said, I still have great performance but it wouldn't be a bad idea to get 7200. My laptop has similar specs to OP's (better video card but worse processor) so you should get +132 in most configs.

[quote=JOE]The only thing issue I would see is your HDD. But that wouldnt hurt your performance much if any(I think), I would suggest upgrading to a high speed HDD, but thats just me.[/quote]

I've got the same speed HDD. As you said, I still have great performance but it wouldn't be a bad idea to get 7200. My laptop has similar specs to OP's (better video card but worse processor) so you should get +132 in most configs.
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#15
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for the love of god get a SSD.

for the love of god get a SSD.
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herofor the love of god get a SSD.

Is that a major difference between a SSD and an HDD?

[quote=hero]for the love of god get a SSD.[/quote]
Is that a major difference between a SSD and an HDD?
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Miles better, but more expensive and less storage for a laptop (which would force you to carry around an external hard drive or something normally).

Miles better, but more expensive and less storage for a laptop (which would force you to carry around an external hard drive or something normally).
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KarmarsiIs that a major difference between a SSD and an HDD?

Its a different type of storage with faster speeds. So applications launch faster (including windows). The trade off is price for storage size. Getting a 1TB SSD is virtually unheard of at a comsumer level.

Your system is pretty buff... what I would suggest is a getting small SSD (like 120GB) and install windows + any applications you would use frequently on that. Then also get a large HDD for storage.

[quote=Karmarsi]Is that a major difference between a SSD and an HDD?[/quote]

Its a different type of storage with faster speeds. So applications launch faster (including windows). The trade off is price for storage size. Getting a 1TB SSD is virtually unheard of at a comsumer level.

Your system is pretty buff... what I would suggest is a getting small SSD (like 120GB) and install windows + any applications you would use frequently on that. Then also get a large HDD for storage.
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#19
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ssds make laptops run super well/save a bit of power too

if you have the money id honestly consider buying some kind of decent monitor for playing on if you have the chance, most non-gaming laptops have pretty large amounts of ghosting/input lag

you could definitely find a used crt that would do 100+ hz on craigslist locally for cheap (30-60 bucks)

ssds make laptops run super well/save a bit of power too

if you have the money id honestly consider buying some kind of decent monitor for playing on if you have the chance, most non-gaming laptops have pretty large amounts of ghosting/input lag

you could definitely find a used crt that would do 100+ hz on craigslist locally for cheap (30-60 bucks)
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Karmarsiherofor the love of god get a SSD.Is that a major difference between a SSD and an HDD?

I bought an ssd for my desktop and it's honestly nothing to be excited about really, but it's probably plenty more beneficial for a laptop that has a slower laptop hard drive. If you can afford to get at least a small one then it won't hurt to put it on.

[quote=Karmarsi][quote=hero]for the love of god get a SSD.[/quote]
Is that a major difference between a SSD and an HDD?[/quote]
I bought an ssd for my desktop and it's honestly nothing to be excited about really, but it's probably plenty more beneficial for a laptop that has a slower laptop hard drive. If you can afford to get at least a small one then it won't hurt to put it on.
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#21
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I know I haven't said anything the last couple days, guys. I just want to say thanks again for all your help, and I should get my laptop around the 4th. :) Everyone take care, and I hope to see you guys on TF2 sometime! <3

I know I haven't said anything the last couple days, guys. I just want to say thanks again for all your help, and I should get my laptop around the 4th. :) Everyone take care, and I hope to see you guys on TF2 sometime! <3
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JOEThe only thing issue I would see is your HDD. But that wouldnt hurt your performance much if any(I think), I would suggest upgrading to a high speed HDD, but thats just me.

i think u missed this part:

KarmarsiOperating System Windows 8, 64-bit, English
[quote=JOE]The only thing issue I would see is your HDD. But that wouldnt hurt your performance much if any(I think), I would suggest upgrading to a high speed HDD, but thats just me.[/quote]

i think u missed this part:

[quote=Karmarsi][b]Operating System[/b] Windows 8, 64-bit, English[/quote]
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eulogy_JOEThe only thing issue I would see is your HDD. But that wouldnt hurt your performance much if any(I think), I would suggest upgrading to a high speed HDD, but thats just me.
i think u missed this part:
KarmarsiOperating System Windows 8, 64-bit, English

does windows 8 upset you that much? stop it.

[quote=eulogy_][quote=JOE]The only thing issue I would see is your HDD. But that wouldnt hurt your performance much if any(I think), I would suggest upgrading to a high speed HDD, but thats just me.[/quote]

i think u missed this part:

[quote=Karmarsi][b]Operating System[/b] Windows 8, 64-bit, English[/quote][/quote]

does windows 8 upset you that much? stop it.
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hpqoeudoes windows 8 upset you that much? stop it.

not upsetting at all, if u want to deal with an OS for tablets and touch screens by all means have at it

[quote=hpqoeu]does windows 8 upset you that much? stop it.[/quote]

not upsetting at all, if u want to deal with an OS for tablets and touch screens by all means have at it
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#25
Twitch
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eulogy_hpqoeudoes windows 8 upset you that much? stop it.
not upsetting at all, if u want to deal with an OS for tablets and touch screens by all means have at it

Windows 8 is fine. Install classic shell. It runs faster and boots faster than windows 7. Everything that worked on windows 7 works on windows 8. People hating on windows 8 are fools. The faster, the better.

[quote=eulogy_][quote=hpqoeu]does windows 8 upset you that much? stop it.[/quote]

not upsetting at all, if u want to deal with an OS for tablets and touch screens by all means have at it[/quote]

Windows 8 is fine. Install classic shell. It runs faster and boots faster than windows 7. Everything that worked on windows 7 works on windows 8. People hating on windows 8 are fools. The faster, the better.
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#26
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eulogy_not upsetting at all, if u want to deal with an OS for tablets and touch screens by all means have at it

I thought the same way about Windows 8 until I tried it - really isn't that all that bad. I wouldn't say it's worth upgrading to, but you can just use Classic Shell to make it a faster Windows 7.

[quote=eulogy_]
not upsetting at all, if u want to deal with an OS for tablets and touch screens by all means have at it[/quote]

I thought the same way about Windows 8 until I tried it - really isn't that all that bad. I wouldn't say it's worth upgrading to, but you can just use Classic Shell to make it a faster Windows 7.
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TwitchTVJohnWindows 8 is fine. Install classic shell. It runs faster and boots faster than windows 7. Everything that worked on windows 7 works on windows 8. People hating on windows 8 are fools. The faster, the better.

try stardocks start8, similar to classic shell. looks better, can boot straight to desktop and more options to it

[quote=TwitchTVJohn]Windows 8 is fine. Install classic shell. It runs faster and boots faster than windows 7. Everything that worked on windows 7 works on windows 8. People hating on windows 8 are fools. The faster, the better.[/quote]

try stardocks start8, similar to classic shell. looks better, can boot straight to desktop and more options to it
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#28
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windows 8 is fine, get off the bandwagon fgt

windows 8 is fine, get off the bandwagon fgt
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#29
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turtsmcgurtswindows 8 is fine, get off the bandwagon fgt

everytime someone says bandwagon i picture this great creation for some reason

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1324604565_radio-flyer-town-country-wagon.jpg

ohhhh the memories

[quote=turtsmcgurts]windows 8 is fine, get off the bandwagon fgt[/quote]

everytime someone says bandwagon i picture this great creation for some reason
[img]http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1324604565_radio-flyer-town-country-wagon.jpg[/img]



ohhhh the memories
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#30
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Can we please not fight here guys? I have Windows 8 because there isn't an option to pick Windows 7 on the laptop. I'm sorry if it seems iffy to some of you people, and I'm sorry if you're not a fan of such system, but it was the only OS choice available for the laptop. again, I'm sorry if it upsets anyone. :c

Can we please not fight here guys? I have Windows 8 because there isn't an option to pick Windows 7 on the laptop. I'm sorry if it seems iffy to some of you people, and I'm sorry if you're not a fan of such system, but it was the only OS choice available for the laptop. again, I'm sorry if it upsets anyone. :c
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