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#1
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Leave your suggestions/ideas/bug finds for the MGE servers here. I may also occasionally use this thread to get your feedback on ideas we have for the server.

EDIT: 11/5/17
http://www.strawpoll.me/14337646
Please vote if you'd like to see elo be kept, or be removed. We'll look at the results around 24 hours from now and make a decision.
EDIT: 11/20/17
I should have added this earlier but we understand the majority wants ELO to be removed. Nacho is currently working on an alternative that some kind of middle ground

Sidenote:
Please do NOT report cheaters here, if you need to report a cheater use /calladmin in the server or add any of the following people:
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198096347625
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198035136145
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198014359009
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198085406662
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198079963566
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198110157880

Leave your suggestions/ideas/bug finds for the MGE servers here. I may also occasionally use this thread to get your feedback on ideas we have for the server.

EDIT: 11/5/17
http://www.strawpoll.me/14337646
Please vote if you'd like to see elo be kept, or be removed. We'll look at the results around 24 hours from now and make a decision.
EDIT: 11/20/17
I should have added this earlier but we understand the majority wants ELO to be removed. Nacho is currently working on an alternative that some kind of middle ground

Sidenote:
Please do NOT report cheaters here, if you need to report a cheater use /calladmin in the server or add any of the following people:
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198096347625
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198035136145
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198014359009
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198085406662
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198079963566
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198110157880
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#2
104 Frags +

remove elo
god bless

remove elo
god bless
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#3
-12 Frags +
fabulousremove elo
god bless

^

blacklist dh imean

[quote=fabulous]remove elo
god bless[/quote]
^

blacklist dh imean
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#4
24 Frags +

Many people go afk so they can get kicked from the arena to save their elo. Is this fixable?

Many people go afk so they can get kicked from the arena to save their elo. Is this fixable?
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#5
17 Frags +
ffreakMany people go afk so they can get kicked from the arena to save their elo. Is this fixable?

We'll look into it, but i'm pretty sure a short term fix is to just kill them if they go afk with no warning, or if you know they're trying to save their elo.

[quote=ffreak]Many people go afk so they can get kicked from the arena to save their elo. Is this fixable?[/quote]
We'll look into it, but i'm pretty sure a short term fix is to just kill them if they go afk with no warning, or if you know they're trying to save their elo.
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#6
4 Frags +

elo is fine. its annoying how the round restarts so frequently, but i get the server needs restarting. it just happens more than any other server. its also annoying how u need to be clicking around in spec, otherwise u dont get to play the arena. afk time needs to be increased

elo is fine. its annoying how the round restarts so frequently, but i get the server needs restarting. it just happens more than any other server. its also annoying how u need to be clicking around in spec, otherwise u dont get to play the arena. afk time needs to be increased
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#7
26 Frags +

ban pyro
ALSO BAN POCKET PISTOL PLEASE

ban pyro
ALSO BAN POCKET PISTOL PLEASE
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#8
28 Frags +
fabulousremove elo
god bless

This.

People play gay enough as it is, they don't need even more of a reason to unadd/backpedal etc.

[quote=fabulous]remove elo
god bless[/quote]
This.

People play gay enough as it is, they don't need even more of a reason to unadd/backpedal etc.
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#9
47 Frags +
fabulousremove elo
god bless

Fuck elo. These fuckers are playing like their lives are on the line.

[quote=fabulous]remove elo
god bless[/quote]
Fuck elo. These fuckers are playing like their lives are on the line.
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#10
-10 Frags +

just ban laz bunnymonster and bullet and the server will be fixed.

just ban laz bunnymonster and bullet and the server will be fixed.
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#11
5 Frags +
Saltysally1just ban laz bunnymonster and bullet and the server will be fixed.

I understand bullet but what's wrong with laz and bunny?

[quote=Saltysally1]just ban laz bunnymonster and bullet and the server will be fixed.[/quote]
I understand bullet but what's wrong with laz and bunny?
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#12
13 Frags +

Remove elo, make it not all class and create a separate all class server, make it so that if people type the words “cheater” or “hacker” the server says “use !calladmin to summon an admin”

Remove elo, make it not all class and create a separate all class server, make it so that if people type the words “cheater” or “hacker” the server says “use !calladmin to summon an admin”
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#13
9 Frags +
VulcanRemove elo, make it not all class and create a separate all class server, make it so that if people type the words “cheater” or “hacker” the server says “use !calladmin to summon an admin”

Working on the key words now, also looking to creating a stock mge server.

[quote=Vulcan]Remove elo, make it not all class and create a separate all class server, make it so that if people type the words “cheater” or “hacker” the server says “use !calladmin to summon an admin”[/quote]
Working on the key words now, also looking to creating a stock mge server.
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#14
-3 Frags +
SeltzerSaltysally1just ban laz bunnymonster and bullet and the server will be fixed.I understand bullet but what's wrong with laz and bunny?

they're the inspiration behind all this elo talk and tbh they're even less enjoyable to play against than even bullet.

[quote=Seltzer][quote=Saltysally1]just ban laz bunnymonster and bullet and the server will be fixed.[/quote]
I understand bullet but what's wrong with laz and bunny?[/quote]
they're the inspiration behind all this elo talk and tbh they're even less enjoyable to play against than even bullet.
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#15
8 Frags +

Don't add to their arena, no need to ban anyone when they're not breaking the rules.

Don't add to their arena, no need to ban anyone when they're not breaking the rules.
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#16
1 Frags +

EDITED MAIN POST IGNORE THIS

EDITED MAIN POST IGNORE THIS
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#17
1 Frags +

any chance of switching map to oihguv? would be super nice to have double blands mid and spire,

any chance of switching map to oihguv? would be super nice to have double blands mid and spire,
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#18
8 Frags +
Ericany chance of switching map to oihguv? would be super nice to have double blands mid and spire,

We have an oihguv server. 198.23.154.139:27015

[quote=Eric]any chance of switching map to oihguv? would be super nice to have double blands mid and spire,[/quote]
We have an oihguv server. 198.23.154.139:27015
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#19
27 Frags +
Saltysally1just ban laz bunnymonster and bullet and the server will be fixed.

laz would hang himself if he wasnt able to play 11 hours of spire mge every night.

[quote=Saltysally1]just ban laz bunnymonster and bullet and the server will be fixed.[/quote]
laz would hang himself if he wasnt able to play 11 hours of spire mge every night.
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#20
-8 Frags +

i'll be the contrarian: blaming elo for losing is (in most circumstances) just self-victimization. in the few circumstances where all factors relating to player skill can be accounted for & optimal play objectively deviates from optimal practice (e.g. shotgun denial on soldier-vs-soldier maps), removing elo will not fix bad behavior. if someone really wants to prove themselves, they're going to play optimally no matter what. have you guys not seen the steam profiles with lists of mge wins/losses? elo is hardly a factor to them; they have a twisted sense of improvement & will always care about the end result rather than the path to improvement.

elo is a pretty reliable metric to determine skill growth & to selectively determine who to fight for the best possible practice given whatever constraints you have in mind.

most importantly, the truly ideal way to accumulate elo differs greatly from public perception: you need to play hyper-aggressively and stifle your opponent so they do not have time to readjust. in most circumstances (which paradoxically includes when you or your opponent are low health), playing passively and/or backpedaling increases your risk of ruin non-negligibly. if you have a health advantage, the best thing to do is go in for the kill.

overall, people need to stop feeling self-important over a video game (no matter what mode), to stop getting insulted when they die, & most importantly to stop talking shit.
it's ok to die in a video game about killing one another.

i'll be the contrarian: blaming elo for losing is (in most circumstances) just self-victimization. in the few circumstances where all factors relating to player skill can be accounted for & optimal play objectively deviates from optimal practice (e.g. shotgun denial on soldier-vs-soldier maps), removing elo will not fix bad behavior. if someone really wants to prove themselves, they're going to play optimally no matter what. have you guys not seen the steam profiles with lists of mge wins/losses? elo is hardly a factor to them; they have a twisted sense of improvement & will always care about the end result rather than the path to improvement.

elo is a pretty reliable metric to determine skill growth & to selectively determine who to fight for the best possible practice given whatever constraints you have in mind.

most importantly, the truly ideal way to accumulate elo differs greatly from public perception: you need to play hyper-aggressively and stifle your opponent so they do not have time to readjust. in most circumstances (which paradoxically includes when you or your opponent are low health), playing passively and/or backpedaling increases your risk of ruin non-negligibly. if you have a health advantage, the best thing to do is go in for the kill.

overall, people need to stop feeling self-important over a video game (no matter what mode), to stop getting insulted when they die, & most importantly to stop talking shit.
it's ok to die in a video game about killing one another.
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#21
9 Frags +
fabulousremove elo
god bless
[quote=fabulous]remove elo
god bless[/quote]
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#22
-1 Frags +

/hud

/hud
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#23
9 Frags +

get the chilly map on the tftv server list that map good af son

get the chilly map on the tftv server list that map good af son
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#24
3 Frags +
flufget the chilly map on the tftv server list that map good af son

i wanna grind temple knockout!!!
i've always loved the aztec aesthetic.

[quote=fluf]get the chilly map on the tftv server list that map good af son[/quote]

i wanna grind temple knockout!!!
i've always loved the aztec aesthetic.
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#25
6 Frags +

I'm going to throw this out there and see what happens. Ive been working on a casual system for mgemod. Ill be honest I don't want to remove the elo system and here is why. I'm on re-surf quite a bit I'm rank 600 out of 70000ish. If the owner said one day; hay I'm removing the ranking system i would be quite disappointed and down in the mouth about it. I see many people who take the elo score seriously and just as many who hate it with a passion. My personal idea on this is a casual system, for example when you join an arena, say badlands mid; and you don't want to loose elo score do !casual. This will prompt your opponent to also ask for a casual match, if both agree then that arena for that match will not calculate / save the scores. ALSO! I'm looking at a system to block specific classes biased off of preference; for example again, your the first in an arena and you don't want to deal with nonsense heavy, pyro, so on, !whitelist and select only the classes you want your opponent to select. Now obviously this is not going to be structured out and done overnight Ive got many things going on at once and this is something that i would personally like to see. Let me know your thoughts...

I'm going to throw this out there and see what happens. Ive been working on a casual system for mgemod. Ill be honest I don't want to remove the elo system and here is why. I'm on re-surf quite a bit I'm rank 600 out of 70000ish. If the owner said one day; hay I'm removing the ranking system i would be quite disappointed and down in the mouth about it. I see many people who take the elo score seriously and just as many who hate it with a passion. My personal idea on this is a casual system, for example when you join an arena, say badlands mid; and you don't want to loose elo score do !casual. This will prompt your opponent to also ask for a casual match, if both agree then that arena for that match will not calculate / save the scores. ALSO! I'm looking at a system to block specific classes biased off of preference; for example again, your the first in an arena and you don't want to deal with nonsense heavy, pyro, so on, !whitelist and select only the classes you want your opponent to select. Now obviously this is not going to be structured out and done overnight Ive got many things going on at once and this is something that i would personally like to see. Let me know your thoughts...
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#26
8 Frags +
NachoReplayI'm going to throw this out there and see what happens. Ive been working on a casual system for mgemod. Ill be honest I don't want to remove the elo system and here is why. I'm on re-surf quite a bit I'm rank 600 out of 70000ish. If the owner said one day; hay I'm removing the ranking system i would be quite disappointed and down in the mouth about it. I see many people who take the elo score seriously and just as many who hate it with a passion. My personal idea on this is a casual system, for example when you join an arena, say badlands mid; and you don't want to loose elo score do !casual. This will prompt your opponent to also ask for a casual match, if both agree then that arena for that match will not calculate / save the scores. ALSO! I'm looking at a system to block specific classes biased off of preference; for example again, your the first in an arena and you don't want to deal with nonsense heavy, pyro, so on, !whitelist and select only the classes you want your opponent to select. Now obviously this is not going to be structured out and done overnight Ive got many things going on at once and this is something that i would personally like to see. Let me know your thoughts...

maybe have some way to remove yourself from rankings so you're not worth anything instead of removing elo or casual?

i feel like the problem with both of these options is they're too easy for people to abuse to be an ass or cause problems. maybe whitelist standard classes across the board and let !casual allow nonsense classes so the people that want to focus on core 6s classes dont have to put up with snipers and heavy, but anyone goofing around with friends or whatever have the option to play.

[quote=NachoReplay]I'm going to throw this out there and see what happens. Ive been working on a casual system for mgemod. Ill be honest I don't want to remove the elo system and here is why. I'm on re-surf quite a bit I'm rank 600 out of 70000ish. If the owner said one day; hay I'm removing the ranking system i would be quite disappointed and down in the mouth about it. I see many people who take the elo score seriously and just as many who hate it with a passion. My personal idea on this is a casual system, for example when you join an arena, say badlands mid; and you don't want to loose elo score do !casual. This will prompt your opponent to also ask for a casual match, if both agree then that arena for that match will not calculate / save the scores. ALSO! I'm looking at a system to block specific classes biased off of preference; for example again, your the first in an arena and you don't want to deal with nonsense heavy, pyro, so on, !whitelist and select only the classes you want your opponent to select. Now obviously this is not going to be structured out and done overnight Ive got many things going on at once and this is something that i would personally like to see. Let me know your thoughts...[/quote]
maybe have some way to remove yourself from rankings so you're not worth anything instead of removing elo or casual?

i feel like the problem with both of these options is they're too easy for people to abuse to be an ass or cause problems. maybe whitelist standard classes across the board and let !casual allow nonsense classes so the people that want to focus on core 6s classes dont have to put up with snipers and heavy, but anyone goofing around with friends or whatever have the option to play.
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#27
13 Frags +

get rid of heavy on ammomod (mge and regular) so people don't rage brass-beast ty

get rid of heavy on ammomod (mge and regular) so people don't rage brass-beast ty
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#28
0 Frags +

get rid of elo pls

get rid of elo pls
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#29
2 Frags +
AV5get rid of heavy on ammomod (mge and regular) so people don't rage brass-beast ty

This and engineer (mainly because level 2/3 sentries are a near instant loss for the other player once they're built in that arena)

Also in the event that ELO is staying in the [AS] servers, can the ELO that a player has stick with them across the other [AS] servers? If this is already a feature, then ignore this

[quote=AV5]get rid of heavy on ammomod (mge and regular) so people don't rage brass-beast ty[/quote]
This and engineer (mainly because level 2/3 sentries are a near instant loss for the other player once they're built in that arena)

Also in the event that ELO is staying in the [AS] servers, can the ELO that a player has stick with them across the other [AS] servers? If this is already a feature, then ignore this
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#30
-15 Frags +

pls dont ban pyro its the bestest

pls dont ban pyro its the bestest
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