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Gunboats vs Shotgum
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#31
-4 Frags +
DishSoapis it sad that im a scoutmain but cant aim a shotgun to save my life?

id still run shotgun anyways.

You're sad in general

[quote=DishSoap]is it sad that im a scoutmain but cant aim a shotgun to save my life?

id still run shotgun anyways.[/quote]

You're sad in general
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#32
15 Frags +
RhettroDishSoapis it sad that im a scoutmain but cant aim a shotgun to save my life?

id still run shotgun anyways.

You're sad in general

im not sad

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[quote=Rhettro][quote=DishSoap]is it sad that im a scoutmain but cant aim a shotgun to save my life?

id still run shotgun anyways.[/quote]

You're sad in general[/quote]
im not sad

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#33
5 Frags +

the fast general switch time from tough break (or was it gun mettle) was a great buff for shotgun
i love shotty

the fast general switch time from tough break (or was it gun mettle) was a great buff for shotgun
i love shotty
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#34
4 Frags +

I don't main soldier but I use a shotgun when I'm protecting a medic. I can't rely on all my rockets to save him.

I don't main soldier but I use a shotgun when I'm protecting a medic. I can't rely on all my rockets to save him.
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#35
5 Frags +

I'm here to shoot shotguns and chew bubblegum and I'm.. huh

I'm here to shoot shotguns and chew bubblegum and I'm.. huh
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#36
2 Frags +
DishSoapis it sad that im a scoutmain but cant aim a shotgun to save my life?

Nah, a big part of aiming is movement and soldier has a vastly different movement speed so not being able to aim with a shotty is understandable

[quote=DishSoap]is it sad that im a scoutmain but cant aim a shotgun to save my life?[/quote]

Nah, a big part of aiming is movement and soldier has a vastly different movement speed so not being able to aim with a shotty is understandable
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#37
9 Frags +

gunboats halve my frags and double my assists but dont do anything to my DPM

gunboats halve my frags and double my assists but dont do anything to my DPM
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#38
0 Frags +

as much as i love the shotgun, there are a lot of situations and scenarios where gunboats give you an inherent advantage, so gunboats vs. shotgun is more situational than anything

as much as i love the shotgun, there are a lot of situations and scenarios where gunboats give you an inherent advantage, so gunboats vs. shotgun is more situational than anything
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#39
1 Frags +

If I need to kill the enemy teams scouts I run shotgun but in every situation otherwise I run gunboats.

If I need to kill the enemy teams scouts I run shotgun but in every situation otherwise I run gunboats.
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#40
0 Frags +

I use gunboats. Disagree with the notion that they are universally better.

I use gunboats. Disagree with the notion that they are universally better.
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#41
10 Frags +

i like shotgun because i'm a waddle bot

i like shotgun because i'm a waddle bot
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#42
24 Frags +

Shotgun vs Gunboats is very dependent on your team's general playstyle.

If your scouts like to take a lot of heals during fights/transitions, running shotgun can easily be detrimental to your team's success, since you'll be taking heals away from your scouts while most likely not accomplishing anything they couldn''t do better.

If your scouts do not like to take heals or you are on a more soldier heavy map (granary, gullywash, metalworks), running shotgun is fine and can be superior to running gunboats.

Also, for those who don't know/don't understand, the reason why so many people say running gunboats is superior to running shotgun in general is that at the highest level of tf2, scout is considered a better class than soldier (not in all cases, but in team fights and such), and so the more you heal them, the better, and the gunboats allow you to do just that.

As for my personal opinion, I use the gunboats 99% of the time, because Muffinz is the ultimate 20+% heal pocket scout, and so if I were to run shotgun, I'd just be useless, since I wouldn't get the heals necessary to run it anyways.

Shotgun vs Gunboats is very dependent on your team's general playstyle.

If your scouts like to take a lot of heals during fights/transitions, running shotgun can easily be detrimental to your team's success, since you'll be taking heals away from your scouts while most likely not accomplishing anything they couldn''t do better.

If your scouts do not like to take heals or you are on a more soldier heavy map (granary, gullywash, metalworks), running shotgun is fine and can be superior to running gunboats.

Also, for those who don't know/don't understand, the reason why so many people say running gunboats is superior to running shotgun in general is that at the highest level of tf2, scout is considered a better class than soldier (not in all cases, but in team fights and such), and so the more you heal them, the better, and the gunboats allow you to do just that.

As for my personal opinion, I use the gunboats 99% of the time, because Muffinz is the ultimate 20+% heal pocket scout, and so if I were to run shotgun, I'd just be useless, since I wouldn't get the heals necessary to run it anyways.
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#43
0 Frags +
SentinelDishSoapis it sad that im a scoutmain but cant aim a shotgun to save my life?
Nah, a big part of aiming is movement and soldier has a vastly different movement speed so not being able to aim with a shotty is understandable

only if you don't use your mouse to aim.
the only scout mains who can't aim shotgun are those who spam strafe keys and don't move their mouse at all.
I don't think there are scout mains that have good tracking but can't aim shotgun as a soldier.

[quote=Sentinel][quote=DishSoap]is it sad that im a scoutmain but cant aim a shotgun to save my life?[/quote]

Nah, a big part of aiming is movement and soldier has a vastly different movement speed so not being able to aim with a shotty is understandable[/quote]
only if you don't use your mouse to aim.
the only scout mains who can't aim shotgun are those who spam strafe keys and don't move their mouse at all.
I don't think there are scout mains that have good tracking but can't aim shotgun as a soldier.
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#44
0 Frags +

gunboats all the way

gunboats all the way
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#45
2 Frags +

bad shotgun aim, good rocket jumps
if i pocket in pugs i occasionally run shotgun to waddle and take 40% heals but that's about it

bad shotgun aim, good rocket jumps
if i pocket in pugs i occasionally run shotgun to waddle and take 40% heals but that's about it
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#46
3 Frags +

I played a scrim one time and i forgot to equip gunboats (im roamer) and i didnt notice it untill like the 3rd mid because i was confused why i didnt have full health on rollout. Seems like it didnt make that much of a differnce, and that mid i slayed some scouts with my shotgun so it was pretty effective.

But in general its not great for roamer, i think its good on pocket but it depends on the style of how your team plays.

I played a scrim one time and i forgot to equip gunboats (im roamer) and i didnt notice it untill like the 3rd mid because i was confused why i didnt have full health on rollout. Seems like it didnt make that much of a differnce, and that mid i slayed some scouts with my shotgun so it was pretty effective.

But in general its not great for roamer, i think its good on pocket but it depends on the style of how your team plays.
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#47
1 Frags +

im pretty much always rocket jumping when im playing soldier, so having that 60% damage reduction is always nice. i dont think i ever actually walk anywhere, even if its a short distance ill do a small rj. ive tried switching to shotgun for last holds before but my aim is so shit with it that it's not even worth it. if anything id rather run conch over shotgun if i couldnt run gunboats.

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i also have like 500 hrs of just jumping so without gunboats i might as well be in a wheelchair
im pretty much always rocket jumping when im playing soldier, so having that 60% damage reduction is always nice. i dont think i ever actually walk anywhere, even if its a short distance ill do a small rj. ive tried switching to shotgun for last holds before but my aim is so shit with it that it's not even worth it. if anything id rather run conch over shotgun if i couldnt run gunboats.

[spoiler]i also have like 500 hrs of just jumping so without gunboats i might as well be in a wheelchair[/spoiler]
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#48
1 Frags +

It just seems like a matter or preference. B4nny did an amazing job at i55 with gunboats pocket, but rando always put up good numbers waddling around, and TLR is really pounding with it on.

It just seems like a matter or preference. B4nny did an amazing job at i55 with gunboats pocket, but rando always put up good numbers waddling around, and TLR is really pounding with it on.
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#49
1 Frags +

Gunboats, I prefer a mobility survivability tool that makes me less dependent on heals than a secondary damage output

Gunboats, I prefer a mobility survivability tool that makes me less dependent on heals than a secondary damage output
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#50
23 Frags +

my head says gunboats but my heart says shotty

my head says gunboats but my heart says shotty
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#51
1 Frags +

pocket with amazing movement and top notch scouts should feel fine running shotgun, otherwise gunboats are nice. I found shotgun to be a lot of fun to play with but a lot slower, gunboats are a lot faster and interesting. It really entirely depends on the players and team composition.

pocket with amazing movement and top notch scouts should feel fine running shotgun, otherwise gunboats are nice. I found shotgun to be a lot of fun to play with but a lot slower, gunboats are a lot faster and interesting. It really entirely depends on the players and team composition.
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#52
-1 Frags +

Naturally as a 6's med I should prefer shotgun pocket, but I like healing my scouts and buffing my players so I truthfully rep for gunboats so my pockets requires less healing.

Naturally as a 6's med I should prefer shotgun pocket, but I like healing my scouts and buffing my players so I truthfully rep for gunboats so my pockets requires less healing.
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#53
0 Frags +

shotgun because i cant rocket jump for shit

shotgun because i cant rocket jump for shit
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#54
-1 Frags +

i personally enjoy going full pasta with the gunboats

the shotgun is only fun with ~40% heals

i personally enjoy going full pasta with the gunboats

the shotgun is only fun with ~40% heals
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#55
15 Frags +

people who can aim vs can't

people who can aim vs can't
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#56
2 Frags +

i love using a shotgun but roaming with a shotgun is frowned upon

i love using a shotgun but roaming with a shotgun is frowned upon
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#57
15 Frags +

shotgun 4 life. I would run shotgun as roamer for basically everything but the midfight. I often fantasize about bringing back rotating shotgun soldiers.

shotgun 4 life. I would run shotgun as roamer for basically everything but the midfight. I often fantasize about bringing back rotating shotgun soldiers.
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#58
11 Frags +
bl4nkpeople who can aim vs can't

It's funny because you can apply this to both gunboats and shotgun.

I can't aim rockets

[quote=bl4nk]people who can aim vs can't[/quote]

It's funny because you can apply this to both gunboats and shotgun.

I can't aim rockets
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#59
7 Frags +

marxist that makes me miss memphis"fucking"von <|8O(

marxist that makes me miss memphis"fucking"von <|8O(
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#60
10 Frags +

TLR's return has given me a big shotgun nostalgia hit

TLR's return has given me a big shotgun nostalgia hit
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