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Saloon.tf V2.0
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Geel9
November 4, 2015

Hey guys,

Today we're announcing the release date of Saloon.tf V2. We're launching it on November 15th, 2016.

Just kidding, it's right now!

Saloon.tf V2 is live and available for betting immediately! Here's a list of the changes we've made:

  • Depositing and betting items is done through a loot bag system. First you deposit items, and then you can bet them on matches. When you win a match, the items are placed into your loot bag -- and you can re-bet them immediately, or withdraw them. This has a number of advantages, including instant verification (described below) and the ability to bet even if Steam is having issues.
  • Instant verification. You may have noticed that many matches have had issues with "verification" for a few days on end, which was an issue caused by the way old Saloon handles items. Here, matches can be "verified" as soon as the final scores are put in, meaning no more ridiculous wait times.
  • Faster pageloads. No more waiting for that weird loading bar to load every time you load the site.
  • Various design improvements.
  • Other things I forgot.

If you need to withdraw items from the old version, you can. Just visit the legacy site and withdraw your items. Any bets active on the previous site have been nullified and you can re-bet on the current version.

Enjoy!

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#1
26 Frags +

no more waiting for verfication!!

no more waiting for verfication!!
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#2
9 Frags +

looks gorgeous

looks gorgeous
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#3
marketplace.tf
5 Frags +

-issue resolved-

-issue resolved-
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#4
2 Frags +

Will it automatically send shit talk to people that lost?
If not, can it?

Will it automatically send shit talk to people that lost?
If not, can it?
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#5
13 Frags +

The Reason - Epsilon game from last week which ended in a tie still doesn't allow for my bet to be refunded, thought it'd be fixed eventually but with the launch of this I assume you guys have just forgotten?

The Reason - Epsilon game from last week which ended in a tie still doesn't allow for my bet to be refunded, thought it'd be fixed eventually but with the launch of this I assume you guys have just forgotten?
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#6
8 Frags +

How long does it take from depositing an item, to it being recognised as being in a bot's possession, to placing the bet?

How long does it take from depositing an item, to it being recognised as being in a bot's possession, to placing the bet?
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#7
marketplace.tf
5 Frags +
SideshowHow long does it take from depositing an item, to it being recognised as being in a bot's possession, to placing the bet?

Normally depositing an item -> being recognised is under a minute, depending on how many people are trading / how Steam is operating ATM, it's usually around 10 seconds.

[quote=Sideshow]How long does it take from depositing an item, to it being recognised as being in a bot's possession, to placing the bet?[/quote]

Normally depositing an item -> being recognised is under a minute, depending on how many people are trading / how Steam is operating ATM, it's usually around 10 seconds.
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#8
7 Frags +

https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/758/
https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/775/
https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/743/

Games are all verified, some people that won the bet can't get their winnings or their initial bets back. There is no payout button to click. It's been 4 weeks.....

Also the explantations for handicaps are hard to understand for new betters; especially with the differences in EU (BO2) and NA (BO1) games. I think there should be an explanation at the bottom of each game like the old saloon; for example: "If froyo wins by 2 or better they win the bet" "If epsilon tie on at least one map they win the bet"

https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/758/
https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/775/
https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/743/

Games are all verified, some people that won the bet can't get their winnings or their initial bets back. There is no payout button to click. It's been 4 weeks.....

Also the explantations for handicaps are hard to understand for new betters; especially with the differences in EU (BO2) and NA (BO1) games. I think there should be an explanation at the bottom of each game like the old saloon; for example: "If froyo wins by 2 or better they win the bet" "If epsilon tie on at least one map they win the bet"
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#9
3 Frags +

when will we get our items back
http://prntscr.com/8z7raq
reason vs epsilon

when will we get our items back
http://prntscr.com/8z7raq
reason vs epsilon
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#10
marketplace.tf
6 Frags +

We're working with Cherry to figure out exactly what went wrong with the matches in question and sort it all out.

We're working with Cherry to figure out exactly what went wrong with the matches in question and sort it all out.
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#11
3 Frags +

oh my god, finally works on google chrome on windows xp 32bit, based geel

oh my god, finally works on google chrome on windows xp 32bit, based geel
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#12
4 Frags +

Do you think you could put bets button or something on scrap.tf main page?
It would boost competitive TF2 greatly, introducing saloon.tf to more people, and potentially with more viewers.

Do you think you could put bets button or something on scrap.tf main page?
It would boost competitive TF2 greatly, introducing saloon.tf to more people, and potentially with more viewers.
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#13
marketplace.tf
6 Frags +
MankyDo you think you could put bets button or something on scrap.tf main page?
It would boost competitive TF2 greatly, introducing saloon.tf to more people, and potentially with more viewers.

Unfortunately not, the company that owns Saloon does not own ScrapTF. It's out of my control.

[quote=Manky]Do you think you could put bets button or something on scrap.tf main page?
It would boost competitive TF2 greatly, introducing saloon.tf to more people, and potentially with more viewers.[/quote]

Unfortunately not, the company that owns Saloon does not own ScrapTF. It's out of my control.
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#14
5 Frags +

based geel
based snezza

based geel
based snezza
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#15
11 Frags +

It looks fantastic, and it seems a whole lot faster. Genuinely appreciate all the effort put into it. Hopefully there won't be any more issues that could put people off Saloon.

I do have a request though. Looking into the Epsilon vs Animate match, it says Animate have a 4.5 point handicap, but i feel as if that can be extremely confusing, it would be easier as it was on the old version of the website, where it did show how many point handicap there was, but also all it takes for Animate or Epsilon to win. As an example, it could say, Animate are given 4.5 points and win this game if they lose by 2 or better, or anything along the lines of that.

As it currently is, i don't actually understand what that handicap means, but it might just be me, and if that's the case, don't mind me, but i do feel as if it would make everything a lot easier to understand. Going by how the old Saloon presented it, it made more sense, and it was slightly easier to understand.

It looks fantastic, and it seems a whole lot faster. Genuinely appreciate all the effort put into it. Hopefully there won't be any more issues that could put people off Saloon.

I do have a request though. Looking into the Epsilon vs Animate match, it says Animate have a 4.5 point handicap, but i feel as if that can be extremely confusing, it would be easier as it was on the old version of the website, where it did show how many point handicap there was, but also all it takes for Animate or Epsilon to win. As an example, it could say, Animate are given 4.5 points and win this game if they lose by 2 or better, or anything along the lines of that.

As it currently is, i don't actually understand what that handicap means, but it might just be me, and if that's the case, don't mind me, but i do feel as if it would make everything a lot easier to understand. Going by how the old Saloon presented it, it made more sense, and it was slightly easier to understand.
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#16
1 Frags +

This match was nullified, but I couldn't get my items back.
Writing this just because no one mentioned this one exactly.

[url=http://legacy.saloon.tf/match/774/]This[/url] match was nullified, but I couldn't get my items back.
Writing this just because no one mentioned this one exactly.
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#17
3 Frags +

UI to display items values would be nice. Like on old Saloon. Having to go to trading website just to check how you value items before depositing is a bit annoying.

UI to display items values would be nice. Like on old Saloon. Having to go to trading website just to check how you value items before depositing is a bit annoying.
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#18
2 Frags +
Geel9BumFreezewill everyone with special status on saloon keep it?
We'll make sure that nobody loses their status.

Remember to do it, Geel!

[quote=Geel9][quote=BumFreeze]will everyone with special status on saloon keep it?[/quote]

We'll make sure that nobody loses their status.[/quote]
Remember to do it, Geel!
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#19
4 Frags +

This looks great. Can't wait to use it!

This looks great. Can't wait to use it!
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#20
serveme.tf
4 Frags +

Gratz on the launch, it looks and performs great

Gratz on the launch, it looks and performs great
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#21
1 Frags +
If you need to withdraw items from the old version, you can. Just visit the legacy site and withdraw your items. Any bets active on the previous site have been nullified and you can re-bet on the current version.

I bet on the Epsi vs Animate match on the old site, but it disappeared so I can't retract any items. On the new site however, it doesn't show that I had placed a bet at all. Did my items disappear or what?

[quote=If you need to withdraw items from the old version, you can. Just visit the legacy site and withdraw your items. Any bets active on the previous site have been nullified and you can re-bet on the current version.][/quote]

I bet on the Epsi vs Animate match on the old site, but it disappeared so I can't retract any items. On the new site however, it doesn't show that I had placed a bet at all. Did my items disappear or what?
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#22
huds.tf
5 Frags +

Great job boys. You pumped out the new site so fast.

Haven't had a proper chance to try it out yet, but are there still item restrictions, ie unusuals?

Great job boys. You pumped out the new site so fast.

Haven't had a proper chance to try it out yet, but are there still item restrictions, ie unusuals?
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#23
1 Frags +
Chill_ColinsIf you need to withdraw items from the old version, you can. Just visit the legacy site and withdraw your items. Any bets active on the previous site have been nullified and you can re-bet on the current version.
I bet on the Epsi vs Animate match on the old site, but it disappeared so I can't retract any items. On the new site however, it doesn't show that I had placed a bet at all. Did my items disappear or what?

this also happened to me. RIP 2 REF

[quote=Chill_Colins][quote=If you need to withdraw items from the old version, you can. Just visit the legacy site and withdraw your items. Any bets active on the previous site have been nullified and you can re-bet on the current version.][/quote]

I bet on the Epsi vs Animate match on the old site, but it disappeared so I can't retract any items. On the new site however, it doesn't show that I had placed a bet at all. Did my items disappear or what?[/quote]
this also happened to me. RIP 2 REF
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#24
2 Frags +

Is there any way to switch bets before the match???
Will there be any way to withdraw or add items to a existing bet?

All too confusing for me

Is there any way to switch bets before the match???
Will there be any way to withdraw or add items to a existing bet?

All too confusing for me
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#25
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Chill_ColinsIf you need to withdraw items from the old version, you can. Just visit the legacy site and withdraw your items. Any bets active on the previous site have been nullified and you can re-bet on the current version.
I bet on the Epsi vs Animate match on the old site, but it disappeared so I can't retract any items. On the new site however, it doesn't show that I had placed a bet at all. Did my items disappear or what?

Bets do not transfer from the old site to the new version
You most likely bet on the old site, so you have to go to legacy.saloon.tf and claim your winnings if your team won.
If you can't, then you have to shoot a ticket on the support page (link is on the top of the saloon page).

[quote=Chill_Colins][quote=If you need to withdraw items from the old version, you can. Just visit the legacy site and withdraw your items. Any bets active on the previous site have been nullified and you can re-bet on the current version.][/quote]

I bet on the Epsi vs Animate match on the old site, but it disappeared so I can't retract any items. On the new site however, it doesn't show that I had placed a bet at all. Did my items disappear or what?[/quote]

Bets do not transfer from the old site to the new version
You most likely bet on the old site, so you have to go to legacy.saloon.tf and claim your winnings if your team won.
If you can't, then you have to shoot a ticket on the support page (link is on the top of the saloon page).
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#26
4 Frags +

A list of what items are accepted would be nice. Also, why can't I deposit scrap or even skins or rec?

A list of what items are accepted would be nice. Also, why can't I deposit scrap or even skins or rec?
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#27
1 Frags +
Legit_LurkkiA list of what items are accepted would be nice. Also, why can't I deposit scrap or even skins or rec?

it should show which items aren't acceptable if a trade goes bad. scrap etc isn't accepted since it could overload the trade bots with requests.

[quote=Legit_Lurkki]A list of what items are accepted would be nice. Also, why can't I deposit scrap or even skins or rec?[/quote]
it should show which items aren't acceptable if a trade goes bad. scrap etc isn't accepted since it could overload the trade bots with requests.
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#28
3 Frags +
kKaltUuLegit_LurkkiA list of what items are accepted would be nice. Also, why can't I deposit scrap or even skins or rec?scrap etc isn't accepted since it could overload the trade bots with requests.

That didn't seem to be a problem before..

[quote=kKaltUu][quote=Legit_Lurkki]A list of what items are accepted would be nice. Also, why can't I deposit scrap or even skins or rec?[/quote]
scrap etc isn't accepted since it could overload the trade bots with requests.[/quote]
That didn't seem to be a problem before..
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#29
2 Frags +

https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/774/
https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/775/

waitin for payout option

https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/774/
https://legacy.saloon.tf/match/775/

waitin for payout option
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#30
1 Frags +
kKaltUuLegit_LurkkiA list of what items are accepted would be nice. Also, why can't I deposit scrap or even skins or rec?it should show which items aren't acceptable if a trade goes bad. scrap etc isn't accepted since it could overload the trade bots with requests.

I've had many of my trades declined so far without any messages about acceptable items... unless I'm just looking in the wrong place?

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm just now getting pop-up messages about this. '_>'

[quote=kKaltUu][quote=Legit_Lurkki]A list of what items are accepted would be nice. Also, why can't I deposit scrap or even skins or rec?[/quote]
it should show which items aren't acceptable if a trade goes bad. scrap etc isn't accepted since it could overload the trade bots with requests.[/quote]
I've had many of my trades declined so far without any messages about acceptable items... unless I'm just looking in the wrong place?

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm just now getting pop-up messages about this. '_>'
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