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TF2Center Advanced Lobbies Beta Launch
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#31
8 Frags +
monotHonestly those bans sound perfectly reasonable. tf2center shouldnt be a fuck-around place, if you wanna troll go play a pub. There are a lot of new players trying out comp through tf2center.wtf lmao no they dont. tf2c is pubs. or d6 lowest. no comms. no anything. seriously, its a shitsite. w/e

http://puu.sh/iwAFF/127abb7db6.jpg
Can't call people shit when you have to have assistance to not even play comp.
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/95251/
You can go home if you want, cry on your mother's lap or whatever retards like you have to do to fall asleep.

[quote=monot][quote]Honestly those bans sound perfectly reasonable. tf2center shouldnt be a fuck-around place, if you wanna troll go play a pub. There are a lot of new players trying out comp through tf2center.[/quote]
wtf lmao no they dont. tf2c is pubs. or d6 lowest. no comms. no anything. seriously, its a shitsite. w/e[/quote]
http://puu.sh/iwAFF/127abb7db6.jpg
Can't call people shit when you have to have assistance to not even play comp.
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/95251/
You can go home if you want, cry on your mother's lap or whatever retards like you have to do to fall asleep.
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#32
21 Frags +

naknak got picked to play over muma

naknak got picked to play over muma
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#33
newbie.tf
23 Frags +

Yeah, I was wholly unimpressed with tf2center with this event. The second the teams were decided and we got into the mumbles, we were like "yo these teams are stupid". All the tf2c admins on our team (and it was a lot rofl) said it would be fine and we'd just play it. "The number of stars are even" means literally nothing when the enemy team has literally the best demoman, a top level heavy, a plat scout, and a plat spy.

I've rung medic for a steel eu highlander team and it was less painful than playing that game. Explaining what suicides are and where to hold are things that I should be doing in highlander newbie mixes, not a showmatch broadcasted to 500 people.

Makes me feel very uncertain about advanced lobbies and the skillgaps that will exist in them.

Yeah, I was wholly unimpressed with tf2center with this event. The second the teams were decided and we got into the mumbles, we were like "yo these teams are stupid". All the tf2c admins on our team (and it was a lot rofl) said it would be fine and we'd just play it. "The number of stars are even" means literally nothing when the enemy team has literally the best demoman, a top level heavy, a plat scout, and a plat spy.

I've rung medic for a steel eu highlander team and it was less painful than playing that game. Explaining what suicides are and where to hold are things that I should be doing in [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/thread/25317/hl-newbie-mixes]highlander newbie mixes[/url], not a showmatch broadcasted to 500 people.

Makes me feel very uncertain about advanced lobbies and the skillgaps that will exist in them.
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#34
6 Frags +

It's a showmatch to publicise it, it's not supposed to be a highlight of how AL will function. The target audience is not plat players, I doubt many of them will play, and the skill gap will be lower.

The point of this is that it's better than normal lobbies, not that it suddenly solves all problems ever...

It's a showmatch to publicise it, it's not supposed to be a highlight of how AL will function. The target audience is not plat players, I doubt many of them will play, and the skill gap will be lower.

The point of this is that it's better than normal lobbies, not that it suddenly solves all problems ever...
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#35
14 Frags +

is the skill based on the beta playerranking site? if so then there are already some issues

is the skill based on the beta playerranking site? if so then there are already some issues
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#36
newbie.tf
7 Frags +
iFY_is the skill based on the beta playerranking site? if so then there are already some issues

yes

[quote=iFY_]is the skill based on the beta playerranking site? if so then there are already some issues[/quote]
yes
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#37
12 Frags +

To be fair most of the players of the showmatch had their monitors turned on which can more than qualify them for advanced lobbies.

To be fair most of the players of the showmatch had their monitors turned on which can more than qualify them for advanced lobbies.
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#38
1 Frags +

I think the 6s games were far more balenced. Although that issue is part of what makes hl what it is. A competitive match with 18 players will easily be harder to balance than 12 players. That said I think the AL system is very exciting and will pave the road to more serious play at a lower level.

I think the 6s games were far more balenced. Although that issue is part of what makes hl what it is. A competitive match with 18 players will easily be harder to balance than 12 players. That said I think the AL system is very exciting and will pave the road to more serious play at a lower level.
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#39
2 Frags +
iFY_is the skill based on the beta playerranking site? if so then there are already some issues

Division is also taken into account. Which makes it the most advanced balancing system currently out there for TF2.

[quote=iFY_]is the skill based on the beta playerranking site? if so then there are already some issues[/quote]

Division is also taken into account. Which makes it the most advanced balancing system currently out there for TF2.
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#40
13 Frags +
SideshowIt's a showmatch to publicise it, it's not supposed to be a highlight of how AL will function. The target audience is not plat players, I doubt many of them will play, and the skill gap will be lower.

The point of this is that it's better than normal lobbies, not that it suddenly solves all problems ever...

I think the fact that they managed to fuck up showmatches this bad should raise a lot of red flags about general management of advanced lobbies. The admins show over and over how unwilling to listen to criticism they are. It goes as far as people getting mumble bans because they use a toggle bind instead of using push to talk, and some steel admin telling an invite player that they aren't using mumble correctly.

[quote=Sideshow]It's a showmatch to publicise it, it's not supposed to be a highlight of how AL will function. The target audience is not plat players, I doubt many of them will play, and the skill gap will be lower.

The point of this is that it's better than normal lobbies, not that it suddenly solves all problems ever...[/quote]

I think the fact that they managed to fuck up showmatches this bad should raise a lot of red flags about general management of advanced lobbies. The admins show over and over how unwilling to listen to criticism they are. It goes as far as people getting mumble bans because they use a toggle bind instead of using push to talk, and some steel admin telling an invite player that they aren't using mumble correctly.
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#41
-22 Frags +
http://puu.sh/iwAFF/127abb7db6.jpg
Can't call people shit when you have to have assistance to not even play comp.
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/95251/
You can go home if you want, cry on your mother's lap or whatever retards like you have to do to fall asleep.

damn ur oblivious holy shit LMAO. ever heard of sarcasm? prolly not bcs u live in ur parents basement. also my mother is in the hospital atm u fucking senseless dipshit

[quote]http://puu.sh/iwAFF/127abb7db6.jpg
Can't call people shit when you have to have assistance to not even play comp.
http://etf2l.org/forum/user/95251/
You can go home if you want, cry on your mother's lap or whatever retards like you have to do to fall asleep.[/quote]
damn ur oblivious holy shit LMAO. ever heard of sarcasm? prolly not bcs u live in ur parents basement. also my mother is in the hospital atm u fucking senseless dipshit
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#42
17 Frags +

jesus christ u were on a mid open etf2l team just shut the fuck up

jesus christ u were on a mid open etf2l team just shut the fuck up
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#43
27 Frags +

Is she having her lap removed or what because I'm pretty sure you'd still be able to cry on it

Is she having her lap removed or what because I'm pretty sure you'd still be able to cry on it
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#44
5 Frags +

there was an incident where a certain admin chat banned a few people at once due to chat flaming. one of the people who was supposed to be banned didn't end up being punished by the admin who made the thread despite his name being on the supposed to be banned list along with the others banned, because the admin was friends with him.

however, someone noticed that the supposed to be banned person was talking in the tf2c chat so he contacted a non-biased admin (ninjamoocow) and had the person banned the next day lol.

there was an incident where a certain admin chat banned a few people at once due to chat flaming. one of the people who was supposed to be banned didn't end up being punished by the admin who made the thread despite his name being on the supposed to be banned list along with the others banned, because the admin was friends with him.

however, someone noticed that the supposed to be banned person was talking in the tf2c chat so he contacted a non-biased admin (ninjamoocow) and had the person banned the next day lol.
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#45
2 Frags +
SideshowiFY_is the skill based on the beta playerranking site? if so then there are already some issues
Division is also taken into account. Which makes it the most advanced balancing system currently out there for TF2.

But not ESEA division? The advanced lobbies page doesn't mention it, and some players in the showmatches (including me) had trouble getting in due to not playing lobbies or UGC.

[quote=Sideshow][quote=iFY_]is the skill based on the beta playerranking site? if so then there are already some issues[/quote]

Division is also taken into account. Which makes it the most advanced balancing system currently out there for TF2.[/quote]

But not ESEA division? The advanced lobbies page doesn't mention it, and some players in the showmatches (including me) had trouble getting in due to not playing lobbies or UGC.
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#46
0 Frags +

afaik there's no easy way to grab your division from esea

afaik there's no easy way to grab your division from esea
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#47
1 Frags +
saamafaik there's no easy way to grab your division from esea

Do they even display steamIDs?

[quote=saam]afaik there's no easy way to grab your division from esea[/quote]
Do they even display steamIDs?
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#48
1 Frags +
CHERRYsaamafaik there's no easy way to grab your division from eseaDo they even display steamIDs?

Yeah you have to go to the History tab on a player's profile

For example https://play.esea.net/users/691438?tab=history (they are on the right)

I don't know that you can look up a player by their Steam ID though. I suppose you could have them manually enter their ESEA profile and then verify it by cross referencing with the Steam ID on that ESEA profile.

[quote=CHERRY][quote=saam]afaik there's no easy way to grab your division from esea[/quote]
Do they even display steamIDs?[/quote]

Yeah you have to go to the History tab on a player's profile

For example https://play.esea.net/users/691438?tab=history (they are on the right)

I don't know that you can look up a player by their Steam ID though. I suppose you could have them manually enter their ESEA profile and then verify it by cross referencing with the Steam ID on that ESEA profile.
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#49
1 Frags +
deetrCHERRYsaamafaik there's no easy way to grab your division from eseaDo they even display steamIDs?
Yeah you have to go to the History tab on a player's profile

For example https://play.esea.net/users/691438?tab=history (they are on the right)

I don't know that you can look up a player by their Steam ID though. I suppose you could have them manually enter their ESEA profile and then verify it by cross referencing with the Steam ID on that ESEA profile.

I see, thanks for correction!

[quote=deetr][quote=CHERRY][quote=saam]afaik there's no easy way to grab your division from esea[/quote]
Do they even display steamIDs?[/quote]

Yeah you have to go to the History tab on a player's profile

For example https://play.esea.net/users/691438?tab=history (they are on the right)

I don't know that you can look up a player by their Steam ID though. I suppose you could have them manually enter their ESEA profile and then verify it by cross referencing with the Steam ID on that ESEA profile.[/quote]
I see, thanks for correction!
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#50
3 Frags +

do we have to do anything special besides the sign up thing to get into the beta of advanced lobbies?

surprised there isn't an email confirmation or anything if so

i see a lot of people already playing in them
although i guess that just means i didn't get into the beta lol

do we have to do anything special besides the sign up thing to get into the beta of advanced lobbies?

surprised there isn't an email confirmation or anything if so

i see a lot of people already playing in them
although i guess that just means i didn't get into the beta lol
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#51
0 Frags +

this balancing thing just doesnt work, ive already had 4 friends tell me that their lobbies "balanced" into a stack...

this balancing thing just doesnt work, ive already had 4 friends tell me that their lobbies "balanced" into a stack...
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#52
6 Frags +
retrogradethis balancing thing just doesnt work, ive already had 4 friends tell me that their lobbies "balanced" into a stack...

balancing systems do take a while to actually get everyone ranked tbf

[quote=retrograde]this balancing thing just doesnt work, ive already had 4 friends tell me that their lobbies "balanced" into a stack...[/quote]
balancing systems do take a while to actually get everyone ranked tbf
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#53
1 Frags +
eeeretrogradethis balancing thing just doesnt work, ive already had 4 friends tell me that their lobbies "balanced" into a stack...balancing systems do take a while to actually get everyone ranked tbf

they use tf2p rankings which means that unless u played a shitton of lobbies before this to get yourself to where u actually are it wont work out - it will take a longgggggggggg time since the stats dont change much per game

[quote=eee][quote=retrograde]this balancing thing just doesnt work, ive already had 4 friends tell me that their lobbies "balanced" into a stack...[/quote]
balancing systems do take a while to actually get everyone ranked tbf[/quote]
they use tf2p rankings which means that unless u played a shitton of lobbies before this to get yourself to where u actually are it wont work out - it will take a longgggggggggg time since the stats dont change much per game
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#54
0 Frags +
Foxdo we have to do anything special besides the sign up thing to get into the beta of advanced lobbies?

surprised there isn't an email confirmation or anything if so

i see a lot of people already playing in them
although i guess that just means i didn't get into the beta lol

I read something about manually applying for advanced lobbies, I don't know what that's about though

I think you're able to play advanced lobbies if you go to your TF2Center profile and have a blue star next to your name + a graph of classes you're "advanced" at, not entirely sure though

[quote=Fox]do we have to do anything special besides the sign up thing to get into the beta of advanced lobbies?

surprised there isn't an email confirmation or anything if so

i see a lot of people already playing in them
although i guess that just means i didn't get into the beta lol[/quote]

I read something about [url=http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5397-advanced-lobbies-manual-qualifications/]manually applying[/url] for advanced lobbies, I don't know what that's about though

I think you're able to play advanced lobbies if you go to your TF2Center profile and have a blue star next to your name + a graph of classes you're "advanced" at, not entirely sure though
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#55
1 Frags +

apparently i'm not qualified enough to play lobby heavy lol I guess since I rarely stray from 6s classes that means those are the only ones I can play despite a season of silver as pyro I'm apparently not good enough to play pyro but iron/steel players can... whatever this is legit retarded

OH YEAH AND WHEN THE LOBBY READIES EVERYTHING FUCKED UP

and you can't get subs

and it was awful

apparently i'm not qualified enough to play lobby heavy lol I guess since I rarely stray from 6s classes that means those are the only ones I can play despite a season of silver as pyro I'm apparently not good enough to play pyro but iron/steel players can... whatever this is legit retarded

OH YEAH AND WHEN THE LOBBY READIES EVERYTHING FUCKED UP

and you can't get subs

and it was awful
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#56
9 Frags +

There was a link on their Advanced Lobbies announcement page directly to the manual application page

I played 2 6v6 lobbies with good comms that weren't a completely roll and were moderately competitive and had some fun moments. Sounds like fun 6v6 TF2 to me.

[url=http://forums.tf2center.com/forms/7-advanced-lobbies-applications/]There was a link on their Advanced Lobbies announcement page directly to the manual application page[/url]

I played 2 6v6 lobbies with good comms that weren't a completely roll and were moderately competitive and had some fun moments. Sounds like fun 6v6 TF2 to me.
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#57
7 Frags +
KevinIsPwn "The number of stars are even"

Aha Aha
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[quote=KevinIsPwn] "The number of stars are even"
[/quote]

Aha Aha
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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#58
5 Frags +

It's decent for 6's, but awful for highlander. Most of the highlander ones turn into giant stacks that are worse than regular stacked lobbies.

It's decent for 6's, but awful for highlander. Most of the highlander ones turn into giant stacks that are worse than regular stacked lobbies.
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#59
2 Frags +

do i have to pay for the beta or is it free?
im perma tf2c chat banned so i cant ask there
idk why im even chat banned rofl

do i have to pay for the beta or is it free?
im perma tf2c chat banned so i cant ask there
idk why im even chat banned rofl
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#60
1 Frags +

cookiejake for TF2C admin!

cookiejake for TF2C admin!
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