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#1800
Yes, wait.

Current specs? Not really an upgrade if only the SSD and a GPU are left.

Overclocking I guess?

#1800
Yes, wait.

Current specs? Not really an upgrade if only the SSD and a GPU are left.

Overclocking I guess?
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#1802
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yea id like to overclock. currently they have i5 2500k, youre right not really an upgrade

yea id like to overclock. currently they have i5 2500k, youre right not really an upgrade
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#1803
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#1802
What about PSU and case? Any reason you don't want to keep them?

Also for games you're really not seeing much of an improvement. With the average overclock on Sandy Bridge being higher you could even get 90-95% of the multithreaded performance with an i7-2700K. So if you see people selling their old 2600/2700Ks (3770K too if you're into delidding) because of Cyber Monday that could get you almost the same performance for a fraction of the price. That's what I'd get if it was just about upgrading.

Just how much of an improvement are you looking for?

#1802
What about PSU and case? Any reason you don't want to keep them?

Also for games you're really not seeing much of an improvement. With the average overclock on Sandy Bridge being higher you could even get 90-95% of the multithreaded performance with an i7-2700K. So if you see people selling their old 2600/2700Ks (3770K too if you're into delidding) because of Cyber Monday that could get you almost the same performance for a fraction of the price. That's what I'd get if it was just about upgrading.

Just how much of an improvement are you looking for?
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#1804
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Setsul#1793
GVR/raptr/plays.tv does the same. Any reason why it needs to be Shadowplay specifically?

Minimal FPS loss, I can get stuff from before I was even recording, etc.

Updated list

[quote=Setsul]#1793
GVR/raptr/plays.tv does the same. Any reason why it needs to be Shadowplay specifically?[/quote]

Minimal FPS loss, I can get stuff from before I was even recording, etc.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dNqHRG]Updated list[/url]
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#1805
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Setsul#1802
What about PSU and case? Any reason you don't want to keep them?

Also for games you're really not seeing much of an improvement. With the average overclock on Sandy Bridge being higher you could even get 90-95% of the multithreaded performance with an i7-2700K. So if you see people selling their old 2600/2700Ks (3770K too if you're into delidding) because of Cyber Monday that could get you almost the same performance for a fraction of the price. That's what I'd get if it was just about upgrading.

Just how much of an improvement are you looking for?

one of the PCs has a new psu, the second one's is really old, i dont remember what kind, it's not in front of me right now. i could probably get away with not changing it out but wanted to have one you recommend in case i need to.

i realize for games the i7 doesnt do much, that's moreso for the work side of things, id like to 'future proof' for like 2-4 years that's why i was thinking of getting a newer cpu. i like to keep things open that im working on, and sometime ill play a few games of rocket league or h1 during the day, with the 2500k cpu usage is pretty much maxed at 100% and sometimes it's pretty stuttery so im hoping a newer i7 would help that as well. also watching a stream on a second monitor and trying to play a game drastically affects my fps

both cases i have are super old, like 5+ years, theyre super heavy and clunky, i think id just like a more streamlined and hopefully better airflow option

[quote=Setsul]#1802
What about PSU and case? Any reason you don't want to keep them?

Also for games you're really not seeing much of an improvement. With the average overclock on Sandy Bridge being higher you could even get 90-95% of the multithreaded performance with an i7-2700K. So if you see people selling their old 2600/2700Ks (3770K too if you're into delidding) because of Cyber Monday that could get you almost the same performance for a fraction of the price. That's what I'd get if it was just about upgrading.

Just how much of an improvement are you looking for?[/quote]

one of the PCs has a new psu, the second one's is really old, i dont remember what kind, it's not in front of me right now. i could probably get away with not changing it out but wanted to have one you recommend in case i need to.

i realize for games the i7 doesnt do much, that's moreso for the work side of things, id like to 'future proof' for like 2-4 years that's why i was thinking of getting a newer cpu. i like to keep things open that im working on, and sometime ill play a few games of rocket league or h1 during the day, with the 2500k cpu usage is pretty much maxed at 100% and sometimes it's pretty stuttery so im hoping a newer i7 would help that as well. also watching a stream on a second monitor and trying to play a game drastically affects my fps

both cases i have are super old, like 5+ years, theyre super heavy and clunky, i think id just like a more streamlined and hopefully better airflow option
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#1804
I'm not sure which part of "does the same" poses a problem to you.

The RX 460 is significantly faster than the 750 Ti.

#1805
I can understand the cases and PSU then.

Stream on a second monitor should actually be getting decoded by the GPU, not the CPU. Current GPU?

What's the 2500K running at? I still have to check which games would even benefit from Hyperthreading. The problem is that 6700K benefits more from it so those nice +50% you get in Cinebench on stock clocks won't really happen. 10-15% is more like it (+20% IPC but lower clocks).

#1804
I'm not sure which part of "does the same" poses a problem to you.

The RX 460 is significantly faster than the 750 Ti.

#1805
I can understand the cases and PSU then.

Stream on a second monitor should actually be getting decoded by the GPU, not the CPU. Current GPU?

What's the 2500K running at? I still have to check which games would even benefit from Hyperthreading. The problem is that 6700K benefits more from it so those nice +50% you get in Cinebench on stock clocks won't really happen. 10-15% is more like it (+20% IPC but lower clocks).
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Setsul#1804
I'm not sure which part of "does the same" poses a problem to you.

The RX 460 is significantly faster than the 750 Ti.

#1805
I can understand the cases and PSU then.

Stream on a second monitor should actually be getting decoded by the GPU, not the CPU. Current GPU?

What's the 2500K running at? I still have to check which games would even benefit from Hyperthreading. The problem is that 6700K benefits more from it so those nice +50% you get in Cinebench on stock clocks won't really happen. 10-15% is more like it (+20% IPC but lower clocks).

now that you mention it, i believe im running my monitor that i put streams on on the integrated gpu (my 980ti doesnt have a second hdmi slot) but i dont see how that would affect my game if the 980ti is the one the game is using, but it does, a lot

the 2500k is at 4ghz, that's what id run the i7 at as well probably, or 4.2

[quote=Setsul]#1804
I'm not sure which part of "does the same" poses a problem to you.

The RX 460 is significantly faster than the 750 Ti.

#1805
I can understand the cases and PSU then.

Stream on a second monitor should actually be getting decoded by the GPU, not the CPU. Current GPU?

What's the 2500K running at? I still have to check which games would even benefit from Hyperthreading. The problem is that 6700K benefits more from it so those nice +50% you get in Cinebench on stock clocks won't really happen. 10-15% is more like it (+20% IPC but lower clocks).[/quote]

now that you mention it, i believe im running my monitor that i put streams on on the integrated gpu (my 980ti doesnt have a second hdmi slot) but i dont see how that would affect my game if the 980ti is the one the game is using, but it does, a lot

the 2500k is at 4ghz, that's what id run the i7 at as well probably, or 4.2
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#1808
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Maybe Intel driver bullshit.

4GHz isn't a very good overclock for a 2500K.

Base clock on the 6700K is 4GHz, turbo 4.2.

In that case you might as well wait for Kaby Lake.

Maybe Intel driver bullshit.

4GHz isn't a very good overclock for a 2500K.

Base clock on the 6700K is 4GHz, turbo 4.2.

In that case you might as well wait for Kaby Lake.
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SetsulMaybe Intel driver bullshit.

4GHz isn't a very good overclock for a 2500K.

Base clock on the 6700K is 4GHz, turbo 4.2.

In that case you might as well wait for Kaby Lake.

yea i havent pushed it too hard youre right, if base clock is 4ghz for the 6700k id obv go above that :)

id like to do it this year still so waiting on kaby lake isnt an option right now

edit: i noticed you generally suggest micro atx boards, is there a specific reason besides like price that im unaware of?

[quote=Setsul]Maybe Intel driver bullshit.

4GHz isn't a very good overclock for a 2500K.

Base clock on the 6700K is 4GHz, turbo 4.2.

In that case you might as well wait for Kaby Lake.[/quote]


yea i havent pushed it too hard youre right, if base clock is 4ghz for the 6700k id obv go above that :)

id like to do it this year still so waiting on kaby lake isnt an option right now

edit: i noticed you generally suggest micro atx boards, is there a specific reason besides like price that im unaware of?
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Setsul#1804
I'm not sure which part of "does the same" poses a problem to you.

The RX 460 is significantly faster than the 750 Ti.

I didn't understand what you were trying to say. And I still don't.

[quote=Setsul]#1804
I'm not sure which part of "does the same" poses a problem to you.

The RX 460 is significantly faster than the 750 Ti.
[/quote]


I didn't understand what you were trying to say. And I still don't.
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#1809
Ok then. Still for future proofing you're going to have a bad time with the 6700K.
Average OC is 4.5GHz. The 7700K is supposed to come with a turbo of 4.5GHz.
Also Zen.
And the year after that there'll be Coffee Lake with 6 cores.

Micro ATX are cheaper and micro ATX cases are cheaper as well. There's just no downside.

#1810
Shadowplay records with minimal fps loss and automatically records the last x (whatever you set it to) minutes when enabled.
GVR/raptr/plays.tv records with minimal fps loss and automatically records the last x (whatever you set it to) minutes when enabled.
It does the same.

#1809
Ok then. Still for future proofing you're going to have a bad time with the 6700K.
Average OC is 4.5GHz. The 7700K is supposed to come with a turbo of 4.5GHz.
Also Zen.
And the year after that there'll be Coffee Lake with 6 cores.

Micro ATX are cheaper and micro ATX cases are cheaper as well. There's just no downside.

#1810
Shadowplay records with minimal fps loss and automatically records the last x (whatever you set it to) minutes when enabled.
GVR/raptr/plays.tv records with minimal fps loss and automatically records the last x (whatever you set it to) minutes when enabled.
It does the same.
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Setsul#1809
Ok then. Still for future proofing you're going to have a bad time with the 6700K.
Average OC is 4.5GHz. The 7700K is supposed to come with a turbo of 4.5GHz.
Also Zen.
And the year after that there'll be Coffee Lake with 6 cores.

Micro ATX are cheaper and micro ATX cases are cheaper as well. There's just no downside.

when is the 7700k supposed to come out? i dont think im quite ready to make the leap to amd

if i wanted to buy the stuff this year, the 6700k is still my best choice though right?

are there any issues with fitting everything on micro ATX boards and in cases?

[quote=Setsul]#1809
Ok then. Still for future proofing you're going to have a bad time with the 6700K.
Average OC is 4.5GHz. The 7700K is supposed to come with a turbo of 4.5GHz.
Also Zen.
And the year after that there'll be Coffee Lake with 6 cores.

Micro ATX are cheaper and micro ATX cases are cheaper as well. There's just no downside.

[/quote]

when is the 7700k supposed to come out? i dont think im quite ready to make the leap to amd

if i wanted to buy the stuff this year, the 6700k is still my best choice though right?

are there any issues with fitting everything on micro ATX boards and in cases?
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#1813
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1. Soon™. 1 or 2 months, probably January.
What kind of leap would AMD be? You can't even tell the difference. Unless you need TSX but Intel hasn't got that to work yet and I doubt you're running databases on your PC.

2. I'm not saying the 6700K isn't the best option for performance right now but I expect massive buyers remorse.
It's not future proofing when better options are available for the same price 2 months later.

I mean your options are:
Overclocking your 2500K higher - 0$
2700K - 150$
6700K + mobo + RAM - >500$,
7700K + mobo + RAM - same price as 6700K

Single threaded the performance gain would be:
2500K OC - 20%
2700K - same as 2500K
6700K - 10-15% over 2500K/2700K
7700K - 10% over 6700K

Multithreaded:
2500K OC - 20%
2700K - 30% over 2500K
6700K - 20-30% over 2700K
7700K - 10% over 6700K

There's also Zen but single threaded performance and price aren't completely clear yet.
6/8C will definitely be far better multithreaded, but at best it should compete with Broadwell-E single threaded, not Skylake or Kaby Lake (still as good as a properly overclocked 2500K).

3. You can't fit more than 2 GPUs on a µATX mobo but since you can't do that with LGA1151 anyway there really is no downside. Cooler height limitations depend on the case as always.

1. Soon™. 1 or 2 months, probably January.
What kind of leap would AMD be? You can't even tell the difference. Unless you need TSX but Intel hasn't got that to work yet and I doubt you're running databases on your PC.

2. I'm not saying the 6700K isn't the best option for performance right now but I expect massive buyers remorse.
It's not future proofing when better options are available for the same price 2 months later.

I mean your options are:
Overclocking your 2500K higher - 0$
2700K - 150$
6700K + mobo + RAM - >500$,
7700K + mobo + RAM - same price as 6700K

Single threaded the performance gain would be:
2500K OC - 20%
2700K - same as 2500K
6700K - 10-15% over 2500K/2700K
7700K - 10% over 6700K

Multithreaded:
2500K OC - 20%
2700K - 30% over 2500K
6700K - 20-30% over 2700K
7700K - 10% over 6700K

There's also Zen but single threaded performance and price aren't completely clear yet.
6/8C will definitely be far better multithreaded, but at best it should compete with Broadwell-E single threaded, not Skylake or Kaby Lake (still as good as a properly overclocked 2500K).


3. You can't fit more than 2 GPUs on a µATX mobo but since you can't do that with LGA1151 anyway there really is no downside. Cooler height limitations depend on the case as always.
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Setsul1. Soon™. 1 or 2 months, probably January.
What kind of leap would AMD be? You can't even tell the difference. Unless you need TSX but Intel hasn't got that to work yet and I doubt you're running databases on your PC.

2. I'm not saying the 6700K isn't the best option for performance right now but I expect massive buyers remorse.
It's not future proofing when better options are available for the same price 2 months later.

I mean your options are:
Overclocking your 2500K higher - 0$
2700K - 150$
6700K + mobo + RAM - >500$,
7700K + mobo + RAM - same price as 6700K

Single threaded the performance gain would be:
2500K OC - 20%
2700K - same as 2500K
6700K - 10-15% over 2500K/2700K
7700K - 10% over 6700K

Multithreaded:
2500K OC - 20%
2700K - 30% over 2500K
6700K - 20-30% over 2700K
7700K - 10% over 6700K

There's also Zen but single threaded performance and price aren't completely clear yet.
6/8C will definitely be far better multithreaded, but at best it should compete with Broadwell-E single threaded, not Skylake or Kaby Lake (still as good as a properly overclocked 2500K).

3. You can't fit more than 2 GPUs on a µATX mobo but since you can't do that with LGA1151 anyway there really is no downside. Cooler height limitations depend on the case as always.

ok that clears things up, thanks!

considering id like to get it done before the year's end, i guess 6700k will be my choice.

do you think ill find some super good deals on black friday/ cyber monday or the stuff im looking for is generally not really put on sale?

im not really short on cash so saving like $10 here or there on mail in rebate doesnt sound appealing to me, and id probably use newegg/ amazon for most/ all the parts

[quote=Setsul]1. Soon™. 1 or 2 months, probably January.
What kind of leap would AMD be? You can't even tell the difference. Unless you need TSX but Intel hasn't got that to work yet and I doubt you're running databases on your PC.

2. I'm not saying the 6700K isn't the best option for performance right now but I expect massive buyers remorse.
It's not future proofing when better options are available for the same price 2 months later.

I mean your options are:
Overclocking your 2500K higher - 0$
2700K - 150$
6700K + mobo + RAM - >500$,
7700K + mobo + RAM - same price as 6700K

Single threaded the performance gain would be:
2500K OC - 20%
2700K - same as 2500K
6700K - 10-15% over 2500K/2700K
7700K - 10% over 6700K

Multithreaded:
2500K OC - 20%
2700K - 30% over 2500K
6700K - 20-30% over 2700K
7700K - 10% over 6700K

There's also Zen but single threaded performance and price aren't completely clear yet.
6/8C will definitely be far better multithreaded, but at best it should compete with Broadwell-E single threaded, not Skylake or Kaby Lake (still as good as a properly overclocked 2500K).


3. You can't fit more than 2 GPUs on a µATX mobo but since you can't do that with LGA1151 anyway there really is no downside. Cooler height limitations depend on the case as always.[/quote]

ok that clears things up, thanks!

considering id like to get it done before the year's end, i guess 6700k will be my choice.

do you think ill find some super good deals on black friday/ cyber monday or the stuff im looking for is generally not really put on sale?

im not really short on cash so saving like $10 here or there on mail in rebate doesnt sound appealing to me, and id probably use newegg/ amazon for most/ all the parts
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#1815
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CPU deals are rare, but everything else (RAM, mobo, PSU, case) should happen. Not sure if there'll be something useful for you, we'll just have to wait and see.

CPU deals are rare, but everything else (RAM, mobo, PSU, case) should happen. Not sure if there'll be something useful for you, we'll just have to wait and see.
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#1816
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SetsulCPU deals are rare, but everything else (RAM, mobo, PSU, case) should happen. Not sure if there'll be something useful for you, we'll just have to wait and see.

ok fair enough

do you think you could whip together a build now please in case i decide not to wait? much thanks!

[quote=Setsul]CPU deals are rare, but everything else (RAM, mobo, PSU, case) should happen. Not sure if there'll be something useful for you, we'll just have to wait and see.[/quote]


ok fair enough

do you think you could whip together a build now please in case i decide not to wait? much thanks!
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#1817
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Assuming you've still got a cooler:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.85 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $615.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-11 18:05 EST-0500

Depends on prices though.

Assuming you've still got a cooler:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qRWw7h]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qRWw7h/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/tdmxFT/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k]Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($328.89 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/6JfmP6/asrock-motherboard-z170mextreme4]ASRock Z170M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($91.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/c78H99/kingston-memory-hx430c15sb2k216]Kingston Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory[/url] ($79.85 @ Newegg Marketplace)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/xjZ2FT/phanteks-case-phec416pbk]Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($49.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/product/qYTrxr/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1]EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($64.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $615.70
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-11 18:05 EST-0500[/i]

Depends on prices though.
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#1818
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thanks a bunch! could you also recommend a cooler just so i have everything in case i need one

much appreciated it!

thanks a bunch! could you also recommend a cooler just so i have everything in case i need one

much appreciated it!
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#1819
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Depends on how over the top you want to go.
NH-D14 is good, if you want something even bigger you'd have to go for a different case.

Depends on how over the top you want to go.
NH-D14 is good, if you want something even bigger you'd have to go for a different case.
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#1820
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SetsulShadowplay records with minimal fps loss and automatically records the last x (whatever you set it to) minutes when enabled.
GVR/raptr/plays.tv records with minimal fps loss and automatically records the last x (whatever you set it to) minutes when enabled.
It does the same.

Oh, thanks.

[quote=Setsul]
Shadowplay records with minimal fps loss and automatically records the last x (whatever you set it to) minutes when enabled.
GVR/raptr/plays.tv records with minimal fps loss and automatically records the last x (whatever you set it to) minutes when enabled.
It does the same.[/quote]

Oh, thanks.
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#1821
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SetsulDepends on how over the top you want to go.
NH-D14 is good, if you want something even bigger you'd have to go for a different case.

ok thanks, i assume that cooler will get me pretty high anyways correct?

[quote=Setsul]Depends on how over the top you want to go.
NH-D14 is good, if you want something even bigger you'd have to go for a different case.[/quote]


ok thanks, i assume that cooler will get me pretty high anyways correct?
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#1822
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#1821
You should not be thermally limited. Mostly depends on the CPU (although for Skylake there isn't much spread) and you.

#1821
You should not be thermally limited. Mostly depends on the CPU (although for Skylake there isn't much spread) and you.
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#1823
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@setsul
I was thinking about upgrading my intel core i5 3330 (3.00 ghz) with something a bit more powerful, but unfortunately i'm shit at pc stuff, so i was wondering if you could suggest a couple of options. (I play almost exclusively tf2, if that can help, also my graphics card is a gtx760)
Thanks in advance

@setsul
I was thinking about upgrading my intel core i5 3330 (3.00 ghz) with something a bit more powerful, but unfortunately i'm shit at pc stuff, so i was wondering if you could suggest a couple of options. (I play almost exclusively tf2, if that can help, also my graphics card is a gtx760)
Thanks in advance
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#1824
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#1823?
Budget?

#1823?
Budget?
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#1825
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Oh, yeah i forgot, sry
About 400€ maximum

Oh, yeah i forgot, sry
About 400€ maximum
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#1826
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Well either get a used i5-3570 (should be fairly cheap) since I doubt your mainboard supports overclocking or get a whole new combo (CPU + RAM + mobo). I might be able to squeeze in overclocking with the 400€ budget but it's going to be tight. Obviously not a problem if you don't want to overclock anyway.

Well either get a used i5-3570 (should be fairly cheap) since I doubt your mainboard supports overclocking or get a whole new combo (CPU + RAM + mobo). I might be able to squeeze in overclocking with the 400€ budget but it's going to be tight. Obviously not a problem if you don't want to overclock anyway.
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#1827
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A friend of mine suggested me an i5 6500+generic h170 mobo+generic ram ddr4 8g, and he estimated something around 350€
Does that make sense?
Also yeah, if that estimation turns out to be incorrect, i'm more towards looking for that used 3570

A friend of mine suggested me an i5 6500+generic h170 mobo+generic ram ddr4 8g, and he estimated something around 350€
Does that make sense?
Also yeah, if that estimation turns out to be incorrect, i'm more towards looking for that used 3570
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#1828
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Yeah, although for TF2 the 6600 might make sense. The 6500 is "only" 10% faster than a 3570. Yes, you can't get that with the 3570 but if you spend 350€ for the best performance you should really go all the way.
If you can find a 3570 it's obviously going to be far cheaper.

Yeah, although for TF2 the 6600 might make sense. The 6500 is "only" 10% faster than a 3570. Yes, you can't get that with the 3570 but if you spend 350€ for the best performance you should really go all the way.
If you can find a 3570 it's obviously going to be far cheaper.
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#1829
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Note: I know little to nothing about pc building. I just want verification of this build that one of my irl friends made.

http://imgur.com/a/4BPoa

my price range was $1,500 or lower with peripherals. I already have a good headset/mousepad. Im also gonna be buying it on cyber monday so the prices may come down a bit from where they are now.

Note: I know little to nothing about pc building. I just want verification of this build that one of my irl friends made.

http://imgur.com/a/4BPoa

my price range was $1,500 or lower with peripherals. I already have a good headset/mousepad. Im also gonna be buying it on cyber monday so the prices may come down a bit from where they are now.
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#1830
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SetsulYeah, although for TF2 the 6600 might make sense. The 6500 is "only" 10% faster than a 3570. Yes, you can't get that with the 3570 but if you spend 350€ for the best performance you should really go all the way.
If you can find a 3570 it's obviously going to be far cheaper.

Thanks, maybe I'll do some further research, but at least now i have something to focus on

[quote=Setsul]Yeah, although for TF2 the 6600 might make sense. The 6500 is "only" 10% faster than a 3570. Yes, you can't get that with the 3570 but if you spend 350€ for the best performance you should really go all the way.
If you can find a 3570 it's obviously going to be far cheaper.[/quote]

Thanks, maybe I'll do some further research, but at least now i have something to focus on
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