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#781
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#779
Well case and PSU are already on sale, probably won't find a better deal than that, I'm not sure if any of the rest would go on sale.

EDIT:
#780
There is no such thing as "light" streaming. Streaming is always heavy on the CPU, whether you stream for 1 hour or 10. That said 720p/30fps should be doable with an i5, going beyond that (720p/60fps, 1080p/30fps or even 1080p/60fps) would be rather difficult though. So just to stream for a few friends every now and then it should be enough, I don't think shelling out the extra 54 quid for an i7 would be worth it.

Well here it is:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£62.16 @ More Computers)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£41.20 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£62.32 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.39 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card (£240.56 @ More Computers)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£36.87 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£65.92 @ More Computers)
Total: £698.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-04 18:44 GMT+0000

#779
Well case and PSU are already on sale, probably won't find a better deal than that, I'm not sure if any of the rest would go on sale.

EDIT:
#780
There is no such thing as "light" streaming. Streaming is always heavy on the CPU, whether you stream for 1 hour or 10. That said 720p/30fps should be doable with an i5, going beyond that (720p/60fps, 1080p/30fps or even 1080p/60fps) would be rather difficult though. So just to stream for a few friends every now and then it should be enough, I don't think shelling out the extra 54 quid for an i7 would be worth it.

Well here it is:
[url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/rr2cXL]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/rr2cXL/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i56600]Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£155.00 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b150mpro4s]ASRock B150M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] (£62.16 @ More Computers)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx424c15fbk28]Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory[/url] (£41.20 @ Ebuyer)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£62.32 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£34.39 @ Aria PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr93908gbd5ppdhe]PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card[/url] (£240.56 @ More Computers)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (£36.87 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550bbefx]XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] (£65.92 @ More Computers)
[b]Total:[/b] £698.42
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-04 18:44 GMT+0000[/i]
782
#782
-2 Frags +

Thanks a bunch Setsul, much appreciated.
Should I be worried about getting a cpu cooler?

Thanks a bunch Setsul, much appreciated.
Should I be worried about getting a cpu cooler?
783
#783
2 Frags +

The stock cooler is fine.

The stock cooler is fine.
784
#784
-1 Frags +

So here's the parts list I picked out for my new build. Primarily for gaming, but also some light music production and video editing. Any suggestions for any changes?

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=28415305

So here's the parts list I picked out for my new build. Primarily for gaming, but also some light music production and video editing. Any suggestions for any changes?

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=28415305
785
#785
0 Frags +

Your link requires a newegg login to view

Your link requires a newegg login to view
786
#786
-1 Frags +
saamYour link requires a newegg login to view

fixed it.

[quote=saam]Your link requires a newegg login to view[/quote]

fixed it.
787
#787
-1 Frags +
lol_goatSo here's the parts list I picked out for my new build. Primarily for gaming, but also some light music production and video editing. Any suggestions for any changes?

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=28415305

If you're going for a 980Ti and a 2011 CPU, might as well go all in and go with a 4k monitor or something. I heard the ACER monitor isn't too great, plus I won't be using a gaming monitor with a TN panel without checking the colours on it for video editing. You have extra hard drives for storage other than the 480SSD right? Do you absolutely need the DVD drive?

edit: or a 2560x1440 monitor. Are you trying to reduce the overall price or just check for parts?

[quote=lol_goat]So here's the parts list I picked out for my new build. Primarily for gaming, but also some light music production and video editing. Any suggestions for any changes?

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=28415305[/quote]

If you're going for a 980Ti and a 2011 CPU, might as well go all in and go with a 4k monitor or something. I heard the ACER monitor isn't too great, plus I won't be using a gaming monitor with a TN panel without checking the colours on it for video editing. You have extra hard drives for storage other than the 480SSD right? Do you absolutely need the DVD drive?

edit: or a 2560x1440 monitor. Are you trying to reduce the overall price or just check for parts?
788
#788
-1 Frags +
rQwirelol_goatSo here's the parts list I picked out for my new build. Primarily for gaming, but also some light music production and video editing. Any suggestions for any changes?

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=28415305

If you're going for a 980Ti and a 2011 CPU, might as well go all in and go with a 4k monitor or something. I heard the ACER monitor isn't too great, plus I won't be using a gaming monitor with a TN panel without checking the colours on it for video editing. You have extra hard drives for storage other than the 480SSD right? Do you absolutely need the DVD drive?

I have a 27" 1440p monitor already that I'll use for certain things, including video editing, but for gaming, I really want g-sync and don't want a monitor larger than 24". I don't absolutely need the DVD drive but its 20 bucks, so whatever.

[quote=rQwire][quote=lol_goat]So here's the parts list I picked out for my new build. Primarily for gaming, but also some light music production and video editing. Any suggestions for any changes?

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=28415305[/quote]

If you're going for a 980Ti and a 2011 CPU, might as well go all in and go with a 4k monitor or something. I heard the ACER monitor isn't too great, plus I won't be using a gaming monitor with a TN panel without checking the colours on it for video editing. You have extra hard drives for storage other than the 480SSD right? Do you absolutely need the DVD drive?[/quote]

I have a 27" 1440p monitor already that I'll use for certain things, including video editing, but for gaming, I really want g-sync and don't want a monitor larger than 24". I don't absolutely need the DVD drive but its 20 bucks, so whatever.
789
#789
-1 Frags +

Then it's fine i guess, ACER is the only monitor on newegg.com with G-Sync since the BENQ one is out of stock? in the 24 range.

Only thing is your CPU cooler, the D14 doesn't have LGA2011/2001-3 listed in its compatibility and a filter search on PCPartPicker is only giving me the D15, so might want to change that.

Then it's fine i guess, ACER is the only monitor on newegg.com with G-Sync since the BENQ one is out of stock? in the 24 range.

Only thing is your CPU cooler, the D14 doesn't have LGA2011/2001-3 listed in its compatibility and a filter search on PCPartPicker is only giving me the D15, so might want to change that.
790
#790
3 Frags +

#784
Budget?
Why NH-D14 not NH-D15?
Light editing? 16GB RAM should be enough.
Any other PCIe cards? Otherwise I see neither the need for LGA2011 nor for a 1000W PSU, as it is you're using 16/40 PCIe lanes and <500W/1000W.
Why the 730?

#784
Budget?
Why NH-D14 not NH-D15?
Light editing? 16GB RAM should be enough.
Any other PCIe cards? Otherwise I see neither the need for LGA2011 nor for a 1000W PSU, as it is you're using 16/40 PCIe lanes and <500W/1000W.
Why the 730?
791
#791
-1 Frags +
Setsul#784
Budget?
Why NH-D14 not NH-D15?
Light editing? 16GB RAM should be enough.
Any other PCIe cards? Otherwise I see neither the need for LGA2011 nor for a 1000W PSU, as it is you're using 16/40 PCIe lanes and <500W/1000W.
Why the 730?

Not really on a budget on this one.
I dunno, just picked one with good ratings.
16GB it is then
I MIGHT add a second 980 Ti, not sure, but want the expandability just in case.
Again, just kinda picked one with good ratings.

[quote=Setsul]#784
Budget?
Why NH-D14 not NH-D15?
Light editing? 16GB RAM should be enough.
Any other PCIe cards? Otherwise I see neither the need for LGA2011 nor for a 1000W PSU, as it is you're using 16/40 PCIe lanes and <500W/1000W.
Why the 730?[/quote]

Not really on a budget on this one.
I dunno, just picked one with good ratings.
16GB it is then
I MIGHT add a second 980 Ti, not sure, but want the expandability just in case.
Again, just kinda picked one with good ratings.
792
#792
-2 Frags +

What are you using the 480GB SSD for?

What are you using the 480GB SSD for?
793
#793
0 Frags +
rQwireWhat are you using the 480GB SSD for?

Steam library. I have a smaller SSD for Windows.

[quote=rQwire]What are you using the 480GB SSD for?[/quote]

Steam library. I have a smaller SSD for Windows.
794
#794
-2 Frags +

I don't think is 480GB is big enough, definitely not for me at least, but if you're okay with it I guess??? Still think having a SSD for game storage is overkill.

I don't think is 480GB is big enough, definitely not for me at least, but if you're okay with it I guess??? Still think having a SSD for game storage is overkill.
795
#795
0 Frags +

#791
No other PCIe cards other than maybe a second GPU?
LGA1151 and 750W PSU would be fine.
For Steam library a far cheaper SSD would be fine. On LGA1151 you've also got the option of M.2 swag for your boot SSD. Although imho a HDD is good enough.
Also the 1500rpm PWM version of the P14s redux is cheaper and you can get both higher and lower rpm than on the 900rpm version.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($91.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Panram Ninja-V 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($639.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.75 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer XB240H ABPR 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($349.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $2346.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-07 14:51 EST-0500

#791
No other PCIe cards other than maybe a second GPU?
LGA1151 and 750W PSU would be fine.
For Steam library a far cheaper SSD would be fine. On LGA1151 you've also got the option of M.2 swag for your boot SSD. Although imho a HDD is good enough.
Also the 1500rpm PWM version of the P14s redux is cheaper and you can get both higher and lower rpm than on the 900rpm version.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XcdKjX]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XcdKjX/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i76700k]Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($369.99 @ Newegg)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15]Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($91.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz170xpsli]Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($119.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/panram-memory-pud42400c158g2njk]Panram Ninja-V 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory[/url] ($82.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mzv5p256bw]Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive[/url] ($179.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e500bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($159.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-06gp44993kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked ACX 2.0+ Video Card[/url] ($639.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bk]Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($89.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220p20750x1]EVGA SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($139.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas]Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($17.75 @ OutletPC)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm]Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan[/url] ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm]Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan[/url] ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm]Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan[/url] ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm]Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan[/url] ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfp14sredux1500pwm]Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.7 CFM 140mm Fan[/url] ($20.78 @ OutletPC)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umfb0aaa01]Acer XB240H ABPR 144Hz 24.0" Monitor[/url] ($349.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Total:[/b] $2346.43
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-07 14:51 EST-0500[/i]
796
#796
-1 Frags +

I made some major changes after realizing how big of an overkill my original plan was.

I made some major changes after realizing how big of an overkill my original plan was.
797
#797
1 Frags +

#796
Just saw that.
Skylake > Haswell though.

#796
Just saw that.
Skylake > Haswell though.
798
#798
-2 Frags +
Setsul#796
Just saw that.
Skylake > Haswell though.

So 6700K instead of 4790K?

[quote=Setsul]#796
Just saw that.
Skylake > Haswell though.[/quote]

So 6700K instead of 4790K?
799
#799
1 Frags +

#798
Yes, different mobo and RAM as well obviously. See #795

#798
Yes, different mobo and RAM as well obviously. See #795
800
#800
-4 Frags +

hi i have 450 bucks
i wanna run tf2 AND MELEE at maximum potential that 400-450 bucks can get me
give computer help

would also like to have one with an APU since it will last me a long time

hi i have 450 bucks
i wanna run tf2 AND MELEE at maximum potential that 400-450 bucks can get me
give computer help

would also like to have one with an APU since it will last me a long time
801
#801
4 Frags +

#800
I don't understand.
Do you want an APU because the pc will last you a long time or because an APU will last you a long time? Both of these assumptions are false by the way.

Do you want a pc that gets you the best bang for buck or an APU? Because APU means two things: horrible GPU performance and AMD = horrible single threaded performance.
Horrible GPU performance means you'll have to get a discrete GPU anyway, which means getting an APU over a CPU was a waste of money. That means you definitely won't get the best bang for buck.
Horrible single threaded performance means terrible performance in TF2. Terrible performance is quite the opposite of "maximum potential". It also means AMD will not get you the best bang for buck in TF2. In other things it used to, but those times have passed for now (Zen is coming, GET HYPE) and it TF2 it never was the case.

So APU and best bang for buck or as you called it "maximum potential that 400-450 can get me" are mutually exclusive.

Do you need a complete build or are you going to reuse anything?
What about peripherals?

Once I know that I might be able to "give computer help".

#800
I don't understand.
Do you want an APU because the pc will last you a long time or because an APU will last you a long time? Both of these assumptions are false by the way.

Do you want a pc that gets you the best bang for buck or an APU? Because APU means two things: horrible GPU performance and AMD = horrible single threaded performance.
Horrible GPU performance means you'll have to get a discrete GPU anyway, which means getting an APU over a CPU was a waste of money. That means you definitely won't get the best bang for buck.
Horrible single threaded performance means terrible performance in TF2. Terrible performance is quite the opposite of "maximum potential". It also means AMD will not get you the best bang for buck in TF2. In other things it used to, but those times have passed for now (Zen is coming, GET HYPE) and it TF2 it never was the case.

So APU and best bang for buck or as you called it "maximum potential that 400-450 can get me" are mutually exclusive.

Do you need a complete build or are you going to reuse anything?
What about peripherals?

Once I know that I might be able to "give computer help".
802
#802
0 Frags +

Hey Setsul would you mind helping me build a new computer for myself. Ideally I would want it to run most games at medium settings at 60 FPS and Overwatch at +100 FPS at minimum settings. Don't need peripherals or OS. Budget is ~$700 but if I may, would you also make a part list for ~$800 for the off chance I decide to increase my budget.

Thanks in advance.

Hey Setsul would you mind helping me build a new computer for myself. Ideally I would want it to run most games at medium settings at 60 FPS and Overwatch at +100 FPS at minimum settings. Don't need peripherals or OS. Budget is ~$700 but if I may, would you also make a part list for ~$800 for the off chance I decide to increase my budget.

Thanks in advance.
803
#803
0 Frags +

#802
Could you be slightly more specific than "most games"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PC_games

Also Overwatch is still in closed beta, I have not seen any benchmarks yet and no one can guarantee that performance is going to be the same in the release version. It could be better or worse.

#802
Could you be slightly more specific than "most games"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PC_games

Also Overwatch is still in closed beta, I have not seen any benchmarks yet and no one can guarantee that performance is going to be the same in the release version. It could be better or worse.
804
#804
0 Frags +

To be more specific let's say I want to be able to run Withcer 3 and GTA V at medium settings at 60 FPS. I would also like to be able to emulate on dolphin with no problems. And if you're going to ask emulate what let's just use Project M with no enhancements as an example.

To be more specific let's say I want to be able to run Withcer 3 and GTA V at medium settings at 60 FPS. I would also like to be able to emulate on dolphin with no problems. And if you're going to ask emulate what let's just use Project M with no enhancements as an example.
805
#805
-2 Frags +

#760
#761
He wants medium settings but would be fine with lowest. The motherboard has 1 pci-e x16 slot and the PSU is Codegen 350X.

#760
#761
He wants medium settings but would be fine with lowest. The motherboard has 1 pci-e x16 slot and the PSU is Codegen 350X.
806
#806
1 Frags +
Setsul#800
I don't understand.
Do you want an APU because the pc will last you a long time or because an APU will last you a long time? Both of these assumptions are false by the way.

Do you want a pc that gets you the best bang for buck or an APU? Because APU means two things: horrible GPU performance and AMD = horrible single threaded performance.
Horrible GPU performance means you'll have to get a discrete GPU anyway, which means getting an APU over a CPU was a waste of money. That means you definitely won't get the best bang for buck.
Horrible single threaded performance means terrible performance in TF2. Terrible performance is quite the opposite of "maximum potential". It also means AMD will not get you the best bang for buck in TF2. In other things it used to, but those times have passed for now (Zen is coming, GET HYPE) and it TF2 it never was the case.

So APU and best bang for buck or as you called it "maximum potential that 400-450 can get me" are mutually exclusive.

Do you need a complete build or are you going to reuse anything?
What about peripherals?

Once I know that I might be able to "give computer help".

oh alright, and to answer you i would just like the most bang for my buck exclusively
and also i dont know alot about these things so a complete build would be preferred.
i also dont really care about the peripherals.

EDIT: WOULD ALSO LIKE TO EMULATE MELEE ON DOLPHIN AS WELL

[quote=Setsul]#800
I don't understand.
Do you want an APU because the pc will last you a long time or because an APU will last you a long time? Both of these assumptions are false by the way.

Do you want a pc that gets you the best bang for buck or an APU? Because APU means two things: horrible GPU performance and AMD = horrible single threaded performance.
Horrible GPU performance means you'll have to get a discrete GPU anyway, which means getting an APU over a CPU was a waste of money. That means you definitely won't get the best bang for buck.
Horrible single threaded performance means terrible performance in TF2. Terrible performance is quite the opposite of "maximum potential". It also means AMD will not get you the best bang for buck in TF2. In other things it used to, but those times have passed for now (Zen is coming, GET HYPE) and it TF2 it never was the case.


So APU and best bang for buck or as you called it "maximum potential that 400-450 can get me" are mutually exclusive.

Do you need a complete build or are you going to reuse anything?
What about peripherals?

Once I know that I might be able to "give computer help".[/quote]

oh alright, and to answer you i would just like the most bang for my buck exclusively
and also i dont know alot about these things so a complete build would be preferred.
i also dont really care about the peripherals.

EDIT: WOULD ALSO LIKE TO EMULATE MELEE ON DOLPHIN AS WELL
807
#807
3 Frags +

#804
Witcher 3 sets the GPU minimum, ~380/285.
Dolphin is pretty much only single threaded iirc.
In terms of multi threaded an i3 should be enough. The 6320 isn't available yet, so the 6300 would have to do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6300 3.8GHz Dual-Core Processor ($156.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.97 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($172.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $644.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-09 15:38 EST-0500

The only upgrades that make sense, if you don't need/want any more/faster storage would be an i5 and a 380X once it's released.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.97 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.50 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Other: 380X ($250.00)
Total: $780.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-09 15:42 EST-0500

EDIT:
#805
He'll have to replace the PSU. If it is the model I think it is max 180W on +12V rail, it can't handle adding a GPU.
The CPU will have to do for now.
I'm not sure what the prices are like for you, but 260X (maybe a bit better) + PSU should be possible.

#806
How much storage do you need? With this budget it's rather significant.
TF2 > Dolphin? Or do you need more than 60fps, because for Dolphin overclocking a G3258 would be the best option, for TF2 you'd want an i3.

#804
Witcher 3 sets the GPU minimum, ~380/285.
Dolphin is pretty much only single threaded iirc.
In terms of multi threaded an i3 should be enough. The 6320 isn't available yet, so the 6300 would have to do.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RWwwBm]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RWwwBm/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i36300]Intel Core i3-6300 3.8GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($156.97 @ Amazon)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab150md3h]Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($76.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42400c15d8gnt]G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory[/url] ($47.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($86.97 @ OutletPC)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($42.50 @ Amazon)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9380p4255]XFX Radeon R9 380 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card[/url] ($172.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m]Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $644.37
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-09 15:38 EST-0500[/i]

The only upgrades that make sense, if you don't need/want any more/faster storage would be an i5 and a 380X once it's released.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k9Z47P]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k9Z47P/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i56600]Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($215.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab150md3h]Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($76.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42400c15d8gnt]G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory[/url] ($47.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($86.97 @ OutletPC)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($42.50 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m]Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Other:[/b] 380X ($250.00)
[b]Total:[/b] $780.41
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-09 15:42 EST-0500[/i]

EDIT:
#805
He'll have to replace the PSU. If it is the model I think it is max 180W on +12V rail, it can't handle adding a GPU.
The CPU will have to do for now.
I'm not sure what the prices are like for you, but 260X (maybe a bit better) + PSU should be possible.

#806
How much storage do you need? With this budget it's rather significant.
TF2 > Dolphin? Or do you need more than 60fps, because for Dolphin overclocking a G3258 would be the best option, for TF2 you'd want an i3.
808
#808
0 Frags +

Dolphin runs on 2 threads.

Dolphin runs on 2 threads.
809
#809
2 Frags +

#808
Iirc you can get it to run with at least 3 threads. They do even less than in TF2 though. That's why I said "pretty much only single threaded".

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph8232/65161.png

#808
Iirc you can get it to run with at least 3 threads. They do even less than in TF2 though. That's why I said "pretty much only single threaded".

[img]http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph8232/65161.png[/img]
810
#810
0 Frags +

Didn't know that, good to know.

Didn't know that, good to know.
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