Anyone else clipping on random shit on the Reddit MGE Spire? Not totally sure if its just that server, but it happens so much it drives me nuts. I'll get stuck and start glitching out like I'm crouching in the ground.
Ive had it happen on 3 or 4 spots.
Anyone else clipping on random shit on the Reddit MGE Spire? Not totally sure if its just that server, but it happens so much it drives me nuts. I'll get stuck and start glitching out like I'm crouching in the ground.
Ive had it happen on 3 or 4 spots.
Yes, it happens in the latest version of the MGE map. It's one of the reasons that MGE iT still uses the older version.
Yes, it happens in the latest version of the MGE map. It's one of the reasons that MGE iT still uses the older version.
Awesome.
Guess I'll be spending more time on MGE IT.
Awesome.
Guess I'll be spending more time on MGE IT.
I have reported this bug 2 or 3 times in the mge mod threads but the response I always get is "we didn't change anything in spire, everything is the same as last map versions"
But the truth is that spire is a lot more buggy in the last version than the previous ones
I have reported this bug 2 or 3 times in the mge mod threads but the response I always get is "we didn't change anything in spire, everything is the same as last map versions"
But the truth is that spire is a lot more buggy in the last version than the previous ones
I think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire
I think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire
renxzenSedosI think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.
[quote=renxzen][quote=Sedos]I think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire[/quote]
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".[/quote]
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.
renxzenkoth_coalplant mid
Could be fun. Gpit C and one of the Turrises could be removed. Bball could go to 1v1 and Railyard could be 2v2 or something. As it is most of the arenas are pointless and not fun to play at all
[quote=renxzen]
koth_coalplant mid[/quote]
Could be fun. Gpit C and one of the Turrises could be removed. Bball could go to 1v1 and Railyard could be 2v2 or something. As it is most of the arenas are pointless and not fun to play at all
Not sure if they've changed it in v8 but v7's bball court was different from ctf_ballin_sky and that always annoyed me.
Not sure if they've changed it in v8 but v7's bball court was different from ctf_ballin_sky and that always annoyed me.
elliott_Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.
I like them for scout v scout when you just want a big ol flat area
[quote=elliott_]Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.[/quote]
I like them for scout v scout when you just want a big ol flat area
elliott_renxzenSedosI think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.
How many people have actually used waste mid?
[quote=elliott_][quote=renxzen][quote=Sedos]I think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire[/quote]
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".[/quote]
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.[/quote]
How many people have actually used waste mid?
elliott_renxzenSedosI think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.
Snakewater is horrible? Hows so? I play it more then I do Spire. The only reason I play Spire to begin with is because so many bad soldiers wrap their dick around it and refuse to play better maps.
[quote=elliott_][quote=renxzen][quote=Sedos]I think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire[/quote]
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".[/quote]
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.[/quote]
Snakewater is horrible? Hows so? I play it more then I do Spire. The only reason I play Spire to begin with is because so many bad soldiers wrap their dick around it and refuse to play better maps.
gullywash is by far the worst mge map in the mod.
entirely flat mini-spire?
no thanks.
gullywash is by far the worst mge map in the mod.
entirely flat mini-spire?
no thanks.
As someone whose only skill in mge is out-gaying people on spire, this really frustrates me.
As someone whose only skill in mge is out-gaying people on spire, this really frustrates me.
Pacifistelliott_renxzenSedosI think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.
How many people have actually used waste mid?
waste mid is my go-to MGE arena
[quote=Pacifist][quote=elliott_][quote=renxzen][quote=Sedos]I think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire[/quote]
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".[/quote]
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.[/quote]
How many people have actually used waste mid?[/quote]
waste mid is my go-to MGE arena
honestly i've been seeing more people on blands mid than i do in spire idk if that is just coincidence but i do agree they need to make changes for mge to make it more rounded in terms of arenas being used.
honestly i've been seeing more people on blands mid than i do in spire idk if that is just coincidence but i do agree they need to make changes for mge to make it more rounded in terms of arenas being used.
gullywash blows, spire is good, badlands is good scout v soldier. Snakewater is fun for mirror match ups but scouts always wreck soldiers no contest, removing waste wouldn't be a bad call honestly.
gullywash blows, spire is good, badlands is good scout v soldier. Snakewater is fun for mirror match ups but scouts always wreck soldiers no contest, removing waste wouldn't be a bad call honestly.
elliott_Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.
Replacing "bad arenas" with another bad arena is counterproductive.
[quote=elliott_]Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.[/quote]
Replacing "bad arenas" with another bad arena is counterproductive.
FutureSandwichSnakewater is horrible? Hows so? I play it more then I do Spire. The only reason I play Spire to begin with is because so many bad soldiers wrap their dick around it and refuse to play better maps.
i played you on blands mid and you stood on the back of your train the whole time. when i asked if you were gonna do that the whole time your answer was "i play pocket". glass houses nigga
[quote=FutureSandwich]
Snakewater is horrible? Hows so? I play it more then I do Spire. The only reason I play Spire to begin with is because so many bad soldiers wrap their dick around it and refuse to play better maps.[/quote]
i played you on blands mid and you stood on the back of your train the whole time. when i asked if you were gonna do that the whole time your answer was "i play pocket". glass houses nigga
BenroadsNot sure if they've changed it in v8 but v7's bball court was different from ctf_ballin_sky and that always annoyed me.
Yeah, the skybox is really low in v7 compared to ballin_sky. I haven't played much v8 bball so I can't say if they fixed that or not.
[quote=Benroads]Not sure if they've changed it in v8 but v7's bball court was different from ctf_ballin_sky and that always annoyed me.[/quote]
Yeah, the skybox is really low in v7 compared to ballin_sky. I haven't played much v8 bball so I can't say if they fixed that or not.
elliott_renxzenSedosI think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.
often snipers play on waste, since its flat for the most part
[quote=elliott_][quote=renxzen][quote=Sedos]I think it's a conspiracy to get soldiers to play something other than spire[/quote]
This.
I remember Cprice talking in a stream chat with Lange that he had plans to do something against "all arenas available but queue on spire is 15 people".[/quote]
Make a Spire 2. And remove a bunch of the bad arenas. Snakewater and Waste Mids are horrible for MGE, and could be replaced with almost anything.[/quote]
often snipers play on waste, since its flat for the most part
scrimshawFutureSandwichSnakewater is horrible? Hows so? I play it more then I do Spire. The only reason I play Spire to begin with is because so many bad soldiers wrap their dick around it and refuse to play better maps.
i played you on blands mid and you stood on the back of your train the whole time. when i asked if you were gonna do that the whole time your answer was "i play pocket". glass houses nigga
I was pretending to be phrakture
edit: also does anyone really get into trainyard? I used to dislike it, but lately its growing on me.
edit: creepin on a thread, gotta make sure those frags are in your favor
gg no re
[quote=scrimshaw][quote=FutureSandwich]
Snakewater is horrible? Hows so? I play it more then I do Spire. The only reason I play Spire to begin with is because so many bad soldiers wrap their dick around it and refuse to play better maps.[/quote]
i played you on blands mid and you stood on the back of your train the whole time. when i asked if you were gonna do that the whole time your answer was "i play pocket". glass houses nigga[/quote]
I was pretending to be phrakture
edit: also does anyone really get into trainyard? I used to dislike it, but lately its growing on me.
edit: creepin on a thread, gotta make sure those frags are in your favor
gg no re
waste mid has the worst spawn know to man in the sewer spawn
waste mid has the worst spawn know to man in the sewer spawn
outatseawaste mid has the worst spawn know to man in the sewer spawn
That's the best spawn if you're playing soldier.
[quote=outatsea]waste mid has the worst spawn know to man in the sewer spawn[/quote]
That's the best spawn if you're playing soldier.
zigzteroutatseawaste mid has the worst spawn know to man in the sewer spawn
That's the best spawn if you're playing soldier.
Its fun for soldier, but its not exactly the most balanced map for all classes.
[quote=zigzter][quote=outatsea]waste mid has the worst spawn know to man in the sewer spawn[/quote]
That's the best spawn if you're playing soldier.[/quote]
Its fun for soldier, but its not exactly the most balanced map for all classes.
I'll see if I can copy the spire off of the official Badlands and replace the one on V8. Yes, I have heard about the Spire issues, but the only information I have received about it is that people would get stuck on something, not clip through it or get the ground glitch. As some people stated, I never touched the spire from V7, and I only received a single picture showing a spot where players would get stuck, which is the top left-right twist before getting on the point.
I do apologize for the lack of updates for over half a year as my life has been dominated by random bullshit and 12-18hr days, but I'd like to resume development shortly.
I'll see if I can copy the spire off of the official Badlands and replace the one on V8. Yes, I have heard about the Spire issues, but the only information I have received about it is that people would get stuck on something, not clip through it or get the ground glitch. As some people stated, I never touched the spire from V7, and I only received a single picture showing a spot where players would get stuck, which is the top left-right twist before getting on the point.
I do apologize for the lack of updates for over half a year as my life has been dominated by random bullshit and 12-18hr days, but I'd like to resume development shortly.
Dude you are so awesome. Thanks for taking the time to even post on here, I know how busy folks can get with work and real life issues.
Dude you are so awesome. Thanks for taking the time to even post on here, I know how busy folks can get with work and real life issues.
YankeeBenroadsNot sure if they've changed it in v8 but v7's bball court was different from ctf_ballin_sky and that always annoyed me.
Yeah, the skybox is really low in v7 compared to ballin_sky. I haven't played much v8 bball so I can't say if they fixed that or not.
The skybox in V8's bball arena is roughly 2100 hammer units tall, which should be plenty (I'm pretty sure V7's was under 1000 if I remember right). If the current height is insufficient, I can increase it again.
EDIT: I am dumb, it's 918. I'll double it and release in the next version (hopefully really soon). I increased it in mge_dueling_v1 though, but that map was never popular so I stopped running a server with it.
[quote=Yankee][quote=Benroads]Not sure if they've changed it in v8 but v7's bball court was different from ctf_ballin_sky and that always annoyed me.[/quote]
Yeah, the skybox is really low in v7 compared to ballin_sky. I haven't played much v8 bball so I can't say if they fixed that or not.[/quote]
The skybox in V8's bball arena is roughly 2100 hammer units tall, which should be plenty (I'm pretty sure V7's was under 1000 if I remember right). If the current height is insufficient, I can increase it again.
EDIT: I am dumb, it's 918. I'll double it and release in the next version (hopefully really soon). I increased it in mge_dueling_v1 though, but that map was never popular so I stopped running a server with it.
I'm pretty much stumped concerning the spire and the numerous places it seems to trap you if you are brushing up against it while ascending. Somehow it is fine in the normal badlands despite one glaring spot near the base on the first turn, but in V8 it seems to respond differently even though it looks completely the same, embedded blockbullets clipping and all. The spire is just a giant model (quarry_rockpile.mdl)set to non-solid and it's filled with crazy shaped tools/toolsblockbullets textured brushes to handle the collision stuff so I don't understand what can be so different about it in one map vs. another map. I'll keep working when I can but I don't think I'll have an answer for you guys for a while.
Badlands pissed me off quite a bit during the initial development wave because of the use of "power 4" displacements, which cause some havoc at compile time:
Building Physics collision data...
WARNING: Map using power 4 displacements, terrain physics cannot be compressed, map will need additional memory and CPU.
done (1) (8420340 bytes)
physics [variable] 8420340/4194304 (200.8%) VERY FULL!
Since Valve decided to use large, high resolution displacements for the terrain instead of smaller, lower resolution (in triangles) displacements, it doesn't allow physics data to be compressed and adds roughly 20% to the map's file size. Furthermore, it seems that they stopped giving out the source files for their older stock maps after they nuked Source SDK and started shipping the tools with the games, but luckily I still have the source files from earlier this year.
Anyway, the other stuff like bball's height is easy to fix, but the spire issue, not so much. I'll try to work on it some more and if I am still unsuccessful I'll ship a version with the taller bball skybox and a few other small tweaks.
I'm pretty much stumped concerning the spire and the numerous places it seems to trap you if you are brushing up against it while ascending. Somehow it is fine in the normal badlands despite one glaring spot near the base on the first turn, but in V8 it seems to respond differently even though it looks completely the same, embedded blockbullets clipping and all. The spire is just a giant model (quarry_rockpile.mdl)set to non-solid and it's filled with crazy shaped tools/toolsblockbullets textured brushes to handle the collision stuff so I don't understand what can be so different about it in one map vs. another map. I'll keep working when I can but I don't think I'll have an answer for you guys for a while.
Badlands pissed me off quite a bit during the initial development wave because of the use of "power 4" displacements, which cause some havoc at compile time:
[code]Building Physics collision data...
WARNING: Map using power 4 displacements, terrain physics cannot be compressed, map will need additional memory and CPU.
done (1) (8420340 bytes)[/code]
[code]physics [variable] 8420340/4194304 (200.8%) VERY FULL![/code]
Since Valve decided to use large, high resolution displacements for the terrain instead of smaller, lower resolution (in triangles) displacements, it doesn't allow physics data to be compressed and adds roughly 20% to the map's file size. Furthermore, it seems that they stopped giving out the source files for their older stock maps after they nuked Source SDK and started shipping the tools with the games, but luckily I still have the source files from earlier this year.
Anyway, the other stuff like bball's height is easy to fix, but the spire issue, not so much. I'll try to work on it some more and if I am still unsuccessful I'll ship a version with the taller bball skybox and a few other small tweaks.