Seinfeld low div pugs are especially bad.
ngl most of the pugs on tf2pickup.eu are low div pugs.
If higher div players join to play it they usually don't give a fuck about the game or they aren't happy with their teammates being so called "balanced" to play with them since tf2pickup.eu uses skill points for each player considering their div. But let me be honest, there were a lot of games being played 5-0 with one team having 2 prem players and 4 other being open/low div players against some team with d2/d1 players. No point of trying if u will get drafted into a losing team most of the time if not always.