Sal,

I'm the leader of the 4v4 League. if you ever need demos just message me and I'll get some of the higher level games for you to cast. Also, I'm really glad you're coming back, you're the reason I got into comp tf2.

Up to 16 teams in total now, still in desperate need of higher skilled players for their own league. If you are on an IM+ team please consider joining!

We currently have 10 teams signed up. My biggest hope at this point would be to get enough IM+ teams (7 more for 8 total) to play in their own division, while the rest of the teams have their own div.

After a few people messaging me about there being a game on December 26, we have added a bye week for Christmas, with play resuming on the 16th.

NA Info: http://andyvichtf2.com/na-4v4-league/

NA Signup: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1HxuJTkYCRbECOjMelA9mPQqlCZYSiN6cIeF0ovOmv-k/viewform

EU Info: http://andyvichtf2.com/andyvich-4v4-league/

EU Signups: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1IvcG2jecn0G_dQnFFD5yYjvdW53O8N5fL0eHzf13n2c/viewform

This event has been run 3 times so far in EU, I just 'inherited' the whitelist for the NA league. Ican't imagine the Natascha being allowed because a team is not allowed to have a heavy and med at the same time. The Mad Milk and Jarate could both be good, but you have to remember that by running a scout or sniper you are limited to only 3 other classes.

No fees, prize is bragging rights.

From my understanding it ruined the first One Nigh Cup in Europe.

I'm running this 4v4 league for NA teams. Please consider entering your team! http://andyvichtf2.com/na-4v4-league/

All the info you need should be there, or feel free to post below with any questions!

I made this thread because my friend thought sandbagging meant a bad player dragging a good team down, and I bet him a key he was wrong. What did you guys do?

My friends keep talking about teams sandbagging. What does that mean?

Making a silver team with a friend of mine, an awesome demo called Muma. We would love to find a pocket and med so we can start scrimming, probably three nights a week. If you are interested or have any questions add me @ http://steamcommunity.com/id/SAAM_/

What div do you want to play?

Still looking, also have a demo/roamer friend looking.

I've had a few seasons in Steel as most classes, as well as a lot of PUGs and subbing for Open teams. I would be willing to devote time to scrimming 2 hours a night as well as working on my DM on my own time. I am in EST time zone, best scrim times for me would be 8-11 EST.

Add me here: http://steamcommunity.com/id/SAAM_/

Stream Link: http://www.twitch.tv/saamaas

I Just started streaming about 2 weeks ago. I also got a new mic two days ago so some of the older VODs probably have a buzzing in them but that is gone now. I stream in 1080p, and I stream my scrims from a new Open team. I also stream some Path of Exile and CS:GO, but not as much as TF2. I Live in USA and have played several seasons in Steel, Silver, and am new trying to get ready for Open.