Humanity… All of my suffering on this world has been at the hands of humanity, particularly women. It has made me realize just how brutal and twisted humanity is as a species. All I ever wanted was to fit in and live a happy life amongst humanity, but I was cast out and rejected, forced to endure an existence of loneliness and insignificance, all because the females of the human species were incapable of seeing the value in me.

Yeah the guy was mentally ill, he killed people.... etc... and a discussion is definitely worth having, especially given how much information was out there immediately and the scary social implications this act of terror has. I made this account to post on here because once I saw this thread was made, there were going to be many misconceptions about everything related to the shooter. And there continues to be many misconceptions, that is precisely why we should be talking, and not going in for a collective group hug like you desire. For example:

https://i.imgur.com/hrWM7FG.png

Why should we be silent when this guy is so blatantly hellbent on creating chaos?

Fair point honestly, this one slipped my mind.

I would still uphold this distinction when considering the ultimate ends of Ben Shapiro and the general worldview found on 4chan/8chan. While perhaps Shapiro and many of these fringe right people would agree on the "problem of Muslims", Shapiro is coming from a "Israel/Jewish-minded position", while the people I am referring to by "far right" will heavily condemn Shapiro for being a "zionist", coupled with your smorgasbord of conspiracy theories associated with it. From what I have seen, much attention hasn't been given to Shapiro by these people, I have seen more "Jew rubbing hands big nose" memes shared making fun of him than praise given to him.

Yes, but the thing about Spencer is that he also gets condemned by people on far-right I am referring to; the people from the community of the mosque shooter don't take him, or any of the big alt-right figureheads, seriously anymore. There is a sort of vicious regress of schisms that frequently occur in these communities, and understandably it would be hard to keep track (and I also couldn't tell you who would be looked up to now). These people distrust anyone with a notable public image, and they would call them "sophist rhetoricians". For instance, you mention that Spencer "loves Israel" -- I'm very much willing to bet the consensus on this same 8chan imageboard is of the contrary.

I don't think it is exactly fair to have this sort of reduction, considering the ultimate ends willed by the people in these fringe right wing groups (ethnostate) and someone like Crowder or Shapiro (open to immigration, but within legal bounds).

I would be anticipating an upcoming video by PewDiePie to talk about this and hope for a solemn condemnation there, as he has already done on Twitter.

Alright, I am posting with the viewpoint of someone who is quite familiar with the fringe far-right communities and ideas that this guy comes from (and that I also reject these same far-right beliefs). When I found out about the shooting and how deeply linked it was to far-right memetics that have been espoused on the -chan boards for years, I knew there would be some confusion and misinformation being spread about how this sort of thing comes about.

Now I don't believe PewDiePie has really anything to do with this, as he is not outright directing his viewers to political imageboards or the Daily Stormer. He said the n-word once yes, but that is certainly a far cry from "normalizing far right beliefs" (and as you will see below, it's often the case that people will confuse moderate right-wingers to be of this "far right"). The real reason people will end up espousing beliefs like this is almost single-handedly due to 4chan/8chan imageboards. 4chan has always been a notorious website, people go to that website for many reasons, and there is certainly easy access to the infamous Politically Incorrect board. The morbidly curious can take a look and see the fringe ideas or opinions people post about there, and for some people, there can be an excitement in seeing them -- the ideas are fringe, but it can bring a sort of excitement to an impressionable person when they conceive that these ideas "might be true", simply because they are taboo. It brings out a sort of narcissistic desire leading to a will to be apart of such a fringe group, because since it is an obviously small pond, you would feel like a big fish. And, this shooter guy is certainly narcissistic (much like Breivik).

You're twisting his words. He said "most of the names on this list" aren't what he would consider to be "far-right", and I think he is correct. Many of them might be right-leaning, yes, but they are not "far-right". Richard Spencer is undoubtedly far-right (he had an entire joke pointing out Richard Spencer was a nazi if you missed it), most of those people are pretty moderate conservatives (and to be fair, I'm not very familiar with "Black Pigeon Speaks" or "No Bullshit")

No, I can certainly guarantee that people in the "mass shooting community" really don't like Ben Shapiro, namely because he is Jewish. Ben Shapiro is nowhere near "far-right", namely due to his views on capitalism (and Israel) that are very much at odds with people in these fringe far right communities, he would at most be considered a neo-conservative (which usually refers to some old boomer who believes capitalism is the cure for everything, etc).

PewDiePie went on to make a follow up video where he did condemn E;R and that he advertised his channel solely based on 1 video he looked at, which did not contain any offensive material -- please do a little more research than headline reading.