really like this super meat boy run with the devs in the call

https://youtu.be/JHJsnXRb_Es?t=16m55s

either mge with a friend or unbind tab while youre playing dm.

Amazing, incredibly helpful!
Is stuff going to be cheaper tomorrow because Black Friday or can I just buy it now?

Sry #2665 option 2, the 8600k with overclock and cooler.

Thanks, I will go with option 2. then and keep the 500GB SSD.

Win10 license is not included in the budget.

I cleaned up my PC a bit and uninstalled programms that I don't need and right now I am sitting at 230GB used storage so you're right, a 500GB SSD is going to be enough. No need for an extra HDD.

I read up a bit on it, and I would now definitely like to overclock the new processor.
I want to pick either the first or the second build and I see that one of the differences is the extra CPU cooler in the second build.
This is where my inexperience shines but doesn't it make sense to get a build with an external CPU cooler in mind, since if I needed to upgrade in a few years I would probably need an external cooler anyways? And with overclocking in mind (and potentially overclocking future processors?) is an external CPU cooler not "better" to be on the safe side?
What I'm trying to say is I don't mind spending a few extra bucks to make sure that the build can comfortably run an overclock instead of just getting the bare minimum.
I don't know if this makes sense but if you want you can just pick either of the options, whatever you think is best.

I forgot to mention I will also need a CD-Drive and I am going to be using Win10, not sure if that influences any of the hardware stuff tho. Thanks!

Wow thats amazing, thanks a lot!
I will take my time and read through all of the stuff you wrote and I also want to read a bit about overclocking and Win8.1/10 so I should be back tomorrow but for now this is already super helpful.

SSD + HDD please

SSD doesn't have to be super big since I'm only going to be using it for TF2, OS and maybe 2 other games max. Not sure what a good size for that would be, if you want you can just chose one and I guess it could be easily adjusted later.

Don't need a lot of storage, 1TB HDD is going to be more than enough.

Btw any recommendations on Windows 10 vs 8? I am currently using Win8 and I saw a few ppl here and there having TF2 related problems with Win10. Any big reasons against sticking with Win8?

Nothing reusable besides the GPU.
As long as I have stable 240 fps I'm happy and if it dips a bit while streaming that should be fine.
So I guess a bigger focus on TF2 performance.

Hello,

my current PC situation is a bit of a mess and I would like to build a new one. I have no experience and don't really know how and where to start.
I only play TF2 and I would like to be able to stream while playing. I don't know how realistic this is but I was hoping to build something for these uses while also keeping the option to upgrade fairly easily in the future. For example I would imagine it makes sense to buy a PSU that is a bit overkill so if I want to upgrade anything in the future I don't also have to buy a new PSU.
I am using a BenQ XL2411 Monitor and I have a Geforce GTX 1050 which I could hopefully use in the new build.
I was hoping I could get something for ~800€ but I have no idea how realistic that number is. If there are good reasons to go over budget I can definetly do that.
I have no experience with overclocking so I probably wouldn't want to do that.

isn't that what happens when youre using AMD and updated drivers. people usually want to fix this and they have to use older drivers.

You might have already tried this but for me the console opens when I'm in a server and pressing my key bound to it.

However when I'm on the esc-screen and pressing my keybind the console won't open at all, and if I go back to the esc-screen I can see the console open in the background but I cant click it.

When i'm playing games/pugs i use batching but when i'm playing MGE and especially DM i have it disabled.

bouldering and miniature painting

I just feel like there has to be something missing here otherwise this would be incredibly disappointing and sad.