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Last Posted August 9, 2015 at 6:26 PM
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#14 i7 4790(non k) temperature spiking/fluctuation in Q/A Help

Well I cleaned the existing thermal paste and reapplied it and....Everything is still spiking and very hot. Ran it through the Firestrike benchmark and it hit 100c during the physics test....Everything was fine 3 days ago and this happens....Did I get a defective cpu?

posted about 8 years ago
#13 i7 4790(non k) temperature spiking/fluctuation in Q/A Help
SetsulCould someone move this to hardware? Do mods even exist here?

I'm not sure if I got all of this so correct me if I'm wrong.
Your CPU sits at 30°C idle? That's normal.
When the there's load on the CPU the temperature spikes? That's normal aswell.
Higher load -> higher temperature, even while browsing there will be load spikes for example scrolling is basically no load, whereas to load a website the CPU will go balls to the wall so it's finished within a second and then clock down again. The heat produced will heat up the CPU almost instantaneously and slowly dissipate again. Even with a constant load the temps will spike at first and then go down a bit again because the cooler needs a few seconds to rev up for three reasons.
1. There's mechanical aspect. Doubling the rpm instantly just isn't a good idea.
2. It only reacts to the temps, it can't them so it'll always lag behind.
3. The reaction is actually delayed on purpose. Imagine the temps spiking from 30°C to 50°C every few seconds with the cooler reacting instantly. quiet -> jet engine -> quiet -> jet engine. Very calming and enjoyable.

Now those 60°C were indeed fine. 97°C aren't. If you didn't remove the old thermal paste then that's your problem.
Regarding thermal paste less is indeed more. You want just enough to fill the irregularities (otherwise filled with air, which is very good at isolating) in both the IHS' and coolers' metal surface to get full contact across the whole surface, but not any more than that. If there's so much thermal paste that the heat has to go through it even where the metals would be touching if there was less, it'll degrade performance. This is what you're seeing right now.

With the pea method if after you've secured the cooler you can just barely see the TP in the middle of the sides, but not across the full length, not at the edges, then you've done it right. A bit less is fine too but you obviously can't see anything in that case so you might have to remove the cooler and check if you're not sure and then start over again.

Which thermal paste are you going to use?

Shin- etsu microsi paste

posted about 8 years ago
#11 i7 4790(non k) temperature spiking/fluctuation in Q/A Help
ScrewballMasterKuniYes, strip everything off down to the bare metal on the cooler and try again.and put a small dot of thermal paste on the CPU once you have both the CPU and cooler cleaned. DO NOT TRY TO SPREAD IT YOURSELF. The pressure of the heatsink will spread it for you. All be certain not to put too much on.

Vid for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjF5jabXRCY

Yeah I know. People often say a size of a pea/large grain of rice in the middle is the perfect amount

posted about 8 years ago
#8 i7 4790(non k) temperature spiking/fluctuation in Q/A Help
ScrewballIntel's stock coolers are garbage. Check the plastic clips again. If you added thermal paste did you remember to remove the thermal paste that was already on the cooler? If all else fails get some cheap aftermarket cooler with heatpipes.

I did NOT remove the thermal paste that was already there. Should I clean both the cpu and heat sink with rubbing alcohol?

posted about 8 years ago
#5 i7 4790(non k) temperature spiking/fluctuation in Q/A Help
KBlairCheeseMan_I'm using an s340 with plenty of airflow. 3 fans, 1 in the back and 1 in the top blowing air out and 1 in the front blowing cool air in. My power plan is currently at high performance and though the place i'm in can be a little warm it definitely wouldn't cause this. Like I said 3 days ago everything was perfect. I haven't changed anything since then
That's a pretty big enclosure, so that's good, assuming it isn't in a desk cabinet or something. Temperature fluctuations in the area the computer is in will have an effect on heat, but if it's below 95f you should be good. Assuming you didn't do anything on the 2nd CPU cooler install like not tighten the retention screws all the way, you would probably be good with an aftermarket cooler.

I think you misunderstood me. It hit 95c not Fahrenheit. Temperatures seem to have gotten way worst. Not only is it fluctuating like that, but when things were working perfect my cpu would be like 60c when playing tf2. Now its like 70-78c

posted about 8 years ago
#3 i7 4790(non k) temperature spiking/fluctuation in Q/A Help
KBlair
  1. How big is your enclosure? How many fans?
  2. What are your power settings/What is your power plan? If its "High Performance" or "Maximum Performance" your CPU will go balls to the wall at any load you give it. Use Resource Monitor to find what's causing your CPU to spike.
  3. Is the room the computer is in air conditioned?


You might be able to get away with just an aftermarket CPU cooler or a more conservative power plan but some Haswells tend to run hot.

I'm using an s340 with plenty of airflow. 3 fans, 1 in the back and 1 in the top blowing air out and 1 in the front blowing cool air in. My power plan is currently at high performance and though the place i'm in can be a little warm it definitely wouldn't cause this. Like I said 3 days ago everything was perfect. I haven't changed anything since then

posted about 8 years ago
#1 i7 4790(non k) temperature spiking/fluctuation in Q/A Help

I just build my new computer about 5 days ago and i have noticed a big issue with my i7 4790. At first everything was great until yesterday my cpu temps were fluctuating and spiking. 35c to 50c, 40c-30c just when browsing the internet. When gaming it fluctuates as well. I'm using the intel stock cooler and it worked fine at first and since i can't overclock i wouldn't think I would need an aftermarket. I've tried to resolve this issue by reapplying thermal paste and making sure the cooler is installed correctly. I think might have even gone worst. Before this issue occured I ran my pc through firestrike and the max temp I saw from the cpu was in the high 60c and that was from the physics test. Today I tried it again and during the physics test as soon as it begin my cpu HIT 97 at a point. Kinda pissed right now and really don't know what to do.

Did notice however my cpu usage is spiking as well and it might correspond to the temperature spikes. Anyone got any suggestions? Didn't install anything new and like I said 3 days ago everything was working perfectly.

posted about 8 years ago
#3 Fps Drop/ Stuttering in Q/A Help
ComangliaCheeseMan_Well basically, I've been playing tf2 for 2 years. I've used chris' maxframes, use no hats/particles, lowered resolution, mat_viewportscale 0.5, and more. I've been able to play the game smoothly at a constant max of 132 fps. (Had my fps_max at that). Now for the last like 2 months or so, my fps goes from that 132, to 70 for no reason. This causes audio and mouse stuttering. Is anyone else having this issue at all? I've tried switching fps config (currently using Cowmanglia's cfg), reinstalling the game, tried using fps_max 0 instead. No difference. I can literally be staring at a wall in spawn and from the 250 fps, it goes to 70. The drops occur about every 5 seconds and it really annoys me. This has literally quite ruined the game for me and makes me not want to play anymore. The weird thing though is it may not drop at first but about like 1 minute or so in my game, it starts happening and will never end. If anyone is also experiencing this or knows how to fix this that'd be great.
What kind of system are you on?

Laptop or Dekstop?

Cause honestly this sounds alot like your CPU overheating (I used to have this issue when I played on a laptop)

If it's a Desktop, go get a can of compressed air, unplug your pc take it outside, take the side off and spray it our with the compress air, especially the CPU fan and heatsink.

If it's a laptop consider buying a laptop cooling pad.

I'm on a Desktop. I've always been on a desktop since I started playing tf2. Nothing has changed at all.

Here are my Specs:
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor 3.0 ghz
Graphics: ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics
Windows 7 64 bit
8 Gb Ram

Like I said, I haven't replaced or done anything new to my computer. Before the last 2 months, my computer could run tf2 fine at a constant 132 fps with no drops ever. It's only been the last 2 months since this happened. Also, when I put my hand at the back of my tower while playing tf2, it seems a little warm but not like it's overheating.

UPDATE: I've found a problem. Turns out you were right Cowmanglia. I realized that my cpu was overheating and at about 97 Celsius. So, I opened up my computer, cleaned the fans a bit, and now my cpu is at 40 celcius and my tf2 runs great. Thanks a lot.

posted about 9 years ago
#1 Fps Drop/ Stuttering in Q/A Help

Well basically, I've been playing tf2 for 2 years. I've used chris' maxframes, use no hats/particles, lowered resolution, mat_viewportscale 0.5, and more. I've been able to play the game smoothly at a constant max of 132 fps. (Had my fps_max at that). Now for the last like 2 months or so, my fps goes from that 132, to 70 for no reason. This causes audio and mouse stuttering. Is anyone else having this issue at all? I've tried switching fps config (currently using Cowmanglia's cfg), reinstalling the game, tried using fps_max 0 instead. No difference. I can literally be staring at a wall in spawn and from the 250 fps, it goes to 70. The drops occur about every 5 seconds and it really annoys me. This has literally quite ruined the game for me and makes me not want to play anymore. The weird thing though is it may not drop at first but about like 1 minute or so in my game, it starts happening and will never end. If anyone is also experiencing this or knows how to fix this that'd be great.

posted about 9 years ago
#14 FPS Issue in Q/A Help

Yeah I don't know really what to do at this point. The only thing I can think to do is just capping my fps at like around 80 so it won't drop as much and won't cause as much stuttering

posted about 9 years ago
#7 FPS Issue in Q/A Help

I've tried capping my fps at 151 (75 hertz x 2 +1) and having not capped at all and nothing changes. MY fps drops for no reason . It's really bothering me and causes stuttering still

posted about 9 years ago
#3 FPS Issue in Q/A Help

Is there any reason having to use your refresh rate x2 + 1 as a cap? So if I had 120hz, I couldn't just use a cap of fps_max 121?

posted about 9 years ago
#1 FPS Issue in Q/A Help

So Basically I have a regular computer. Nothing Special. Without anything to boost my fps, tf2 runs below expectations. So to improve this, I've got chris' max fps config, no hats mod, dxlevel 81, deleted particles, razer game booster, practically everything possible to maximize my fps. I have my fps capped at 132 for a more consistent frame rate like it says in chris' config. Before everything was fine. I could run tf2 at a constant 132 fps with no drops ever. However lately, whenever I play tf2, I have a constant 132 fps but, suddenly it drops to 60 for no reason and goes back up. This absolutely happens for no reason and causes stuttering which gets very annoying. Anyone know how to fix this or is also having this happen to them? Without any action going on my fps is at a constant 132 but suddenly it drops to a 60 in the same exact scenario.

posted about 9 years ago