I don't understand what is there to even argue about?

What great moral stand is being made?

Just don't put spoilers in the article titles lol

if rando had hit one more shot on ninjanick that round might not have been lost

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I would ask for this thread to be closed as this point because the entirety of the counter argument is two people who have a total of two articles that have not entirely been falsified but have as much connection to gender dysphoria as vaccines to autism.

But it shouldn't be closed so as many people as possible can read the pandora's box of ignorance that has been opened by my two favorite posters so everyone can help learn of the issues facing trans people today and fight against these very harmful opinions.

Yeah if mean by some then you mean about 99% of all just about every actually objective, scientific study and the other 1% funded by "family values" groups. Then sure.

Face it, this isn't you having a different scientific opinion because science has a relatively unified stance on the topic based off evidence.

You just have an opinion, not fact. Which is your right, but it certainly doesn't make you right.

How is it even remotely possible to be this delusional. Literally nothing you or sheepy has posted has been of any substance. It has been refuted over and over and over again, with multiple credible sources. How can you possibly come to this conclusion after people have clearly explained directly in front of you why the things you both say and cite are wrong.

In fact the only person that has posted anything of substance who is "not a liberal" is hooli. And he has been posting some very different things, on average much more scientific and rational things, than either one of you.

And you have the audacity to make this claim while also claiming you're somehow being persecuted because we say mean words to you, the people who are invalidating and belittling an entire group of people, people who are killed and harassed on a daily basis?

At what point do we stop pretending this is a conversation and just acknowledge its you wanting to seem like you're morally superior by claiming victimhood while also trying to perpetuate harmful stereotypes.

Yeah its clear you didn't really read the study considering how poor your counter-argument was so when you quoted the well done post as "wall" I don't think I'm jumping to conclusions by saying you should stay away from scientific articles.

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Yeah anyone that replies to a scientific analysis with the summary of "wall" should not be engaging in any sort of intellectual debate because it is clear you don't have a brain.

If you can't take the time to read analysis then you don't deserve to have scientific opinions. Please leave this thread sheepy unless you plan on using your brain.

You can't be serious.

By this point we should recognize when a thread is sheepy-bait and just delete it before he posts.

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Yeah D

Actually it is extremely important what one organization reclassifies something as considering the APA is both the largest and most influential psychology association in America. When it changes the wording or definition of something the medical field listens and if you really do know what the medical field uses widely you'll know that APA's definition is becoming the standard and the older, less scientifically sound definitions are being phased out due to, you guessed it, their inaccuracy.

Every time you post you make it very clear you are not scientifically literate.

And to tack onto this post of your lack of scientific misunderstanding.

Has it ever crossed your mind that perhaps transgendered people are more likely to need antipsychotic drugs due to the fact they have often been constantly harassed and abused through their lives and as a result have other issues besides their gender dsysphoria?

In addition, they were not "treating" gender dysphoria with these drugs they were merely utilized in helping transgednered people cope with suicidal and other harmful thoughts even after sex reassignment surgery in order to help them deal with their emotional stress.

If you want to learn about science many people on this forum would love to help you. But it's clear you're trying to take findings in a field you don't understand and fit them to your agenda.

I think people are just downfragging hooli without actually taking the time to read his things or understand what he's saying.

The first article he posted is not stating that gender dysphoria isn't real or that transgender people can't get reassignment surgery and live happy lives. It's simply stating that they often still have emotional issues after the fact that can be helped with pharmaceuticals.

That article is scientifically sound as it has received a high impact factor from reputable scientifically journal reviewers http://www.scimagojr.com/journalsearch.php?q=10600153309&tip=sid&clean=0

The other article he linked is not reputable though. See mustard's post above.

I have concluded the universe is also made of cheese.

But much like these nameless psychologists which I'm sure exist or are not at all biased I am still not to be trusted because concluding without evidence is just guessing.

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