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ratawarAntimoonhave your medic offclass to spy for a whole game and see if you win

L E A R NI'm not talking about THAT kind of offclasses since that's a really obvious throw, I'm talking about classes who are ALLOWED to offclass, but instead of using their offclassing permission to pull out classes that are really necessary in very particular situations, they decide to run that offclass the entire game, most of the time when it's not necessay at all, and transmits that feeling of lack-of-seriousness in our competitive pug

If they run it all the time, even when it's not necessary (and frequently worse), then they're creating a big weakness in their team. Imagine trying to hold any point ever with a targe demo, or having a pocket running liberty launcher and manntreads. If you have to ask why perma-offclasses are bad, you probably haven't played enough shitty games of 6's.

BeersyBefore you comment anything Im not here to shit on ESEA and straight up say its bad, im asking this as a literal question, because of my exp in ESEA in the past few weeks. Allow me to summarize...

1. My teams first week we had to reschedule twice because the enemy team couldn't get their client to work, and when we finally ffw them on the second (third?) day we were set to play, they complained about it and said we "jew'd" them out of a win.

So? They were jerks, you can ignore them.

2. My team was placed against a team that was clearly way, way above our skill level, and we lost a 5v6 (We had 6).

That sucks, but can happen in any league. There have been plenty of silver UGC teams with players more skilled than anyone else in that division. Also, it's worth noting that your first 4 matches are going to be randomly assigned, with your win/loss record only coming into play in the third week of the season. As the season goes on you'll play more against teams closer to your level.

3. After changing teams (And was kicked and treated like shit even though I agreed to stay until a replacement was found) I ended up on a new team with people who some were fairly new to comp TF2, which is fine, everyone has their starts, but we were facing a mid-open team where they ran 3 offclasses the entire game, and we still lost.

If the team has newer players, don't expect them to do well against more experienced players. It sounds like you lost against a team that was better than yours, which is fine.

4, I joined another team, where we literally ffw 3 times in a row because mains did not show up without a reason, and we died.

Seems like the takeaway here is that you need to do a better job of vetting the teams you try out for. Joining a team is a two-way decision, don't join up if you don't think they're as committed as you.

5. I had a friend who need me to play tonight, but even though im a paid up player and open is apparently an entire open leauge with no restrictions on who can play in it (Thats another reason I dont like ESEA atm either) I cannot ring for my friends team because I forgot to roster, and can't roster during a match.

You can't play because you forgot to roster, that's not ESEA's fault my guy. If your friend's team can't get 6, try and reschedule and don't make the same mistake the next time.

So, to sum it up, heres how I see it.
1. ESEA forces you to use a crappy client that doesent work 1/4th of the time.

For most people the client works well enough.

2. They do not allow ringers, even though most open teams clearly need it

You can have more than 6 people rostered on a team, that's the whole point of having backup players. You couldn't ring because you made a dumb mistake, not because of anything ESEA did. Furthermore, most open teams don't need ringers, some occasionally need to use their backups.

3. The players are toxic as hell, both the ones your playing with and the ones your playing against.

If your team's toxic, then you made a mistake when you joined that team. If the team you're playing against is toxic, then just type hud_saytext_time 0 into the console

Now I bet your about to post "Fuckin, UGC has the same problems you nerd". Well yeah, I would agree, if I had those problems before
1. Ive played about 6 or 7 seasons of HL and 3 seasons of 6's, and I have only had to forfeit 3 or 4 times. I have forfeited about 6 times in the past month as opposed to 2/2.5 years of playing in UGC

That's a problem with the teams you joined, not a problem that most people in ESEA have.

2. I have never once had to cancel a scrim or match due to a client error, or had to cancel/resched because of a lack of a server.
3. I have only once ever had a team deny ringers entirely to my team.
4. I never faced platinum/gold players against me on my steel team (IE: Mid/High Open) and it was allowed.

Not surprised that you didn't face plat players when you were on a sub-open team, but if you get into silver and gold you'd absolutely run into players with experience in higher divs.

I also post this because I have people trying to counter my points by using these arguements
1. "Its just/Its because/thats just how ESEA is" Thats not a valid arguement, that doesent disprove my points really

If you're unhappy with something that's a result of ESEA policy, like not having ringers for matches, then don't play the league. It's literally that easy.

2."You don't have to worry about sandbaggers/you don't need to buy a server" First off, all you have to do is match/check rosters, its not hard and takes like 5-10 minutes, I would rather do that than pay the money for premium. Second, servers have never been an issue, I used a free one 90% of my TF2 games, and never once did I cancel one for a scrim or match, because I could always find one.

Sandbaggers are a problem in ESEA, true, but unless you're on track to be a playoffs team it's pretty much not your problem.

3."You improve faster" I guess? I have never found improvement being rolled by someone whos 4 or 5 times better than my team. Someone whos slightly better or a division up? Yes. Being absolutely rolled? No.

If every team you play against is 4-5 times better than you're team, you're not ready to play in open.

To sum it up, im overall paying for a worse experience in a paid leauge instead of my better experience in my free one.

Again, im not trying to shit on ESEA, im asking if anyone can explain the benefits to me despite these points. So far, i'm not convinced its worth paying for

To add, I don't intend to blame or say that this is the TF2 ESEA admins fault, they have alot on their shoulders and I do appreciate all the work they put in.

Thank you for your time, I really wanna try to see the light at the end of this tunnel because it seems like there is no point playing in ESEA unless your like, a mid-silver 6's player at the very least.

At the end of the day, if you don't enjoy playing in ESEA, then don't play in it. I'd agree that if you're not at least a silver player then you're not going to do very well in open. But if you approach it with the mentality of sticking it out through a season, learning from your losses, building connections, and improving as a player, then you're going to get better faster playing in ESEA. The fact of the matter is that there aren't really the same caliber of players in UGC 6's, so the ceiling of what you're going to be able to learn, and how far you'll be able to grow as a player is much, much lower.