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#31
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I think it's great that everyone is starting to stream their TF2 POVs on Twitch but it feels to me that people are competing rather than working together. I mean, I've seen some people just willingly send all their viewers to another stream when they are done streaming but it doesn't quite feel like that with all streamers. People are looking for numbers when it comes to streaming and I think those streams suffer and lack genuine content which will bring more viewers and players in. It's good there are a lot more streamers to get the content out, but it looks to me that some forms of grudges are already being made which won't help the community in the long run

edit: I'm still listening/watching the stream. If you want to contact extine, duder, sal etc. then twitter is good. They always check their respective twitters.

I think it's great that everyone is starting to stream their TF2 POVs on Twitch but it feels to me that people are competing rather than working together. I mean, I've seen some people just willingly send all their viewers to another stream when they are done streaming but it doesn't quite feel like that with all streamers. People are looking for numbers when it comes to streaming and I think those streams suffer and lack genuine content which will bring more viewers and players in. It's good there are a lot more streamers to get the content out, but it looks to me that some forms of grudges are already being made which won't help the community in the long run

edit: I'm still listening/watching the stream. If you want to contact extine, duder, sal etc. then twitter is good. They always check their respective twitters.
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#32
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Competition for viewers is a good thing, provided everyone realizes the incentives they're facing.

For eXtv, when we see other shoutcasts getting more views than our channel, we look at why that is and see what we can do to improve our content and bring in more people. It's not a consistent process, but it's never going to hurt anyone's feelings if a PYYYOUR/ggglygy cast gets more views than us at the same time.

There are two metrics that matter to most people - how you're doing right now compared to everyone else, and what your growth looks like. There are many sources of growth, and the ones that help out the whole community are the ones that look outside of it. Streams dedicated to personalities like Tyrone and PYYYOUR are one of the best ways to publicize competitive TF2 to a wide audience. Put on a show, be good at what you do, and publicize yourself to the greater TF2 or gaming/esports community.

Competition for viewers is a good thing, provided everyone realizes the incentives they're facing.

For eXtv, when we see other shoutcasts getting more views than our channel, we look at why that is and see what we can do to improve our content and bring in more people. It's not a consistent process, but it's never going to hurt anyone's feelings if a PYYYOUR/ggglygy cast gets more views than us at the same time.

There are two metrics that matter to most people - how you're doing right now compared to everyone else, and what your growth looks like. There are many sources of growth, and the ones that help out the whole community are the ones that look outside of it. Streams dedicated to personalities like Tyrone and PYYYOUR are one of the best ways to publicize competitive TF2 to a wide audience. Put on a show, be good at what you do, and publicize yourself to the greater TF2 or gaming/esports community.
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#33
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What I mean is that competition is great since it encourages good content, but there will always be those few people who will feel they aren't getting the recognition they deserve which creates bad vibes in the community

What I mean is that competition is great since it encourages good content, but there will always be those few people who will feel they aren't getting the recognition they deserve which creates bad vibes in the community
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Right. I'm guilty of that sometimes, myself. I haven't evaluated everyone's streams or youtube videos, and I'm reluctant to send viewers their way unless I know I'm sending them somewhere entertaining. Plus I completely forgot about the "More comp TF2" link section of my YouTube and left out Kip and Greaver for the longest time, simply out of laziness. I should probably add you as well.

Right. I'm guilty of that sometimes, myself. I haven't evaluated everyone's streams or youtube videos, and I'm reluctant to send viewers their way unless I know I'm sending them somewhere entertaining. Plus I completely forgot about the "More comp TF2" link section of my YouTube and left out Kip and Greaver for the longest time, simply out of laziness. I should probably add you as well.
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Thanks, but I won't be offended if you don't. I'm working on promoting streams via Twitter and Steam Group Announcements right now. The problem is that there are so many streams sometimes that people just shrug it off as spam...

Thanks, but I won't be offended if you don't. I'm working on promoting streams via Twitter and Steam Group Announcements right now. The problem is that there are so many streams sometimes that people just shrug it off as spam...
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