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Wasn't sure where to post this but I really need some help with editing some clips together. I've been recording shots @1280x720 in LWRT @120 fps, compiling the frames in vdub using the XVID Mpeg-4 codec and then exporting it as an avi. They're small files, run 100% fine on my computer in WMP, but when I put them in Premiere Pro CS6 the playback is awful. The clip stutters after a few frames, and then the entire program slows down and it is impossible to edit. I can change the playback resolution to 10%, and the playback quality to 1/4 and it still stutters and lags. I just built a new computer a few months ago, and while not a monster of a machine, I think my i5 3750K processor should be able to handle it. I figure maybe Premiere can't handle the 120 fps, but even when I tried recording at 60 fps it had difficulty. I don't understand why it has such a hard time just playing back the clips, and after countless google searches I have no idea what to do. Any help is really greatly appreciated, thanks.

Wasn't sure where to post this but I really need some help with editing some clips together. I've been recording shots @1280x720 in LWRT @120 fps, compiling the frames in vdub using the XVID Mpeg-4 codec and then exporting it as an avi. They're small files, run 100% fine on my computer in WMP, but when I put them in Premiere Pro CS6 the playback is awful. The clip stutters after a few frames, and then the entire program slows down and it is impossible to edit. I can change the playback resolution to 10%, and the playback quality to 1/4 and it still stutters and lags. I just built a new computer a few months ago, and while not a monster of a machine, I think my i5 3750K processor should be able to handle it. I figure maybe Premiere can't handle the 120 fps, but even when I tried recording at 60 fps it had difficulty. I don't understand why it has such a hard time just playing back the clips, and after countless google searches I have no idea what to do. Any help is really greatly appreciated, thanks.
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Not sure if this will solve the problem, but I'd definitely recommend Lagarith Lossless Codec when compiling the frames in Virtualdub:

http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html

I used to have the same problem while editing videos in Vegas, until I enabled GPU acceleration of video processing under preferences and turned preview quality WAY down. It still didn't make it perfectly smooth, but it helped a lot. Try searching for a similar option in Premiere.

Not sure if this will solve the problem, but I'd definitely recommend Lagarith Lossless Codec when compiling the frames in Virtualdub:

http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html

I used to have the same problem while editing videos in Vegas, until I enabled GPU acceleration of video processing under preferences and turned preview quality WAY down. It still didn't make it perfectly smooth, but it helped a lot. Try searching for a similar option in Premiere.
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cabooseNot sure if this will solve the problem, but I'd definitely recommend Lagarith Losslec Codec when compiling the frames in Virtualdub:

http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html

I used to have the same problem while editing videos in Vegas, until I enabled GPU acceleration of video processing under preferences and turned preview quality WAY down. It still didn't make it perfectly smooth, but it helped a lot. Try searching for a similar option in Premiere.

I really appreciate the reply, I'm going to try that now. Like I said, my preview quality is already as low as it will physically go, but I'll look around to see if I can enable something similar for processing.

[quote=caboose]Not sure if this will solve the problem, but I'd definitely recommend Lagarith Losslec Codec when compiling the frames in Virtualdub:

http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html

I used to have the same problem while editing videos in Vegas, until I enabled GPU acceleration of video processing under preferences and turned preview quality WAY down. It still didn't make it perfectly smooth, but it helped a lot. Try searching for a similar option in Premiere.[/quote]
I really appreciate the reply, I'm going to try that now. Like I said, my preview quality is already as low as it will physically go, but I'll look around to see if I can enable something similar for processing.
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I've never used premier but I remember there is this one feature in after effects called something like "RAM playback" or "RAM preview" or something. It basically took the highlighted selection of the video, analyzed it, stored it, and played it back smoothly. There might be a similar feature

I've never used premier but I remember there is this one feature in after effects called something like "RAM playback" or "RAM preview" or something. It basically took the highlighted selection of the video, analyzed it, stored it, and played it back smoothly. There might be a similar feature
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shlanerI've never used premier but I remember there is this one feature in after effects called something like "RAM playback" or "RAM preview" or something. It basically took the highlighted selection of the video, analyzed it, stored it, and played it back smoothly. There might be a similar feature

Thanks for the help, I'll look into it. I think part of the problem is for whatever reason when you create a project it doesn't let you create one higher than 60 fps, so when it's playing it back it's constantly trying to convert it to a lower frame rate.

[quote=shlaner]I've never used premier but I remember there is this one feature in after effects called something like "RAM playback" or "RAM preview" or something. It basically took the highlighted selection of the video, analyzed it, stored it, and played it back smoothly. There might be a similar feature[/quote]
Thanks for the help, I'll look into it. I think part of the problem is for whatever reason when you create a project it doesn't let you create one higher than 60 fps, so when it's playing it back it's constantly trying to convert it to a lower frame rate.
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No, there is no "conversion" of framerates during playback, it only converts during the render. I've heard from several people that Premiere Pro is very smooth/quick with playback if you're able to use the GPU Acceleration feature, which is not supported by most older gpu's. My GPU doesn't support it so the playback is terrible for large files, and I've found that Sony Vegas is the way to go for cheaper/older builds. If you're not willing to switch over programs you may want to try encoding the files individually first, and then doing your editing afterwards. This will reduce quality a little and take some extra time but the file sizes will be much smaller for the program to work with.

No, there is no "conversion" of framerates during playback, it only converts during the render. I've heard from several people that Premiere Pro is very smooth/quick with playback if you're able to use the GPU Acceleration feature, which is not supported by most older gpu's. My GPU doesn't support it so the playback is terrible for large files, and I've found that Sony Vegas is the way to go for cheaper/older builds. If you're not willing to switch over programs you may want to try encoding the files individually first, and then doing your editing afterwards. This will reduce quality a little and take some extra time but the file sizes will be much smaller for the program to work with.
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I'm almost positive your problem is due to using xvid to compress the files. Use lagarith or something else.

I'm almost positive your problem is due to using xvid to compress the files. Use lagarith or something else.
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Thanks for all the advice, compiling with lagarith helped a fair amount.

Thanks for all the advice, compiling with lagarith helped a fair amount.
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