Mong Israel clearly separates its civilian population from its military population, unlike Hamas, so the innocents killed are not collateral.
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MongpajaroI don't agree with illegal settlements or settler violence, but I still wouldn't call it terrorism per say, at least from what I read in the 2023 links (I don't care about 30 year old attacks). It's normal violence. If there was settler terrorism, I would also disavow that.
I just gave you source that include an Israel/Palestine relations expert, the European Union diplomatic service, the Swedish government, the International Court of Justice, the French government, and the most prominent Middle Eastern news outlet all definitively calling it settler terrorism u numbskull
posted 4 months ago
#160
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MongWhat makes Oct 7th special (besides the magnitude, the recency and the fact that Palestine and Israel are technically not engaged in a full blown war) is that innocents were killed and raped without reason. They weren't collateral. It was not just fighting back. I wouldn't find much wrong with Hamas attacking Israeli military. It's war after all. When Israel bombs Gaza now, they have a supplementary justification to do it (besides the long history and attack-reaction repeat they have going on for decades) because their civilians were attacked mercilessly - and the whole reasonable world agrees.
I also think violence is definitely not helping Palestinians and a peaceful solution would be much more effective.
Oct 7th isn't special beyond the magnitude and recency. Israel has been killing innocent Palestinian kids for decades too in "retaliation" to Hamas.
MongWhen Israel bombs Gaza now, they have a supplementary justification to do it (besides the long history and attack-reaction repeat they have going on for decades) because their civilians were attacked mercilessly
Bombing civilian populations is a war crime. War crimes are never justifiable.
Mongand the whole reasonable world agrees.
https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2023/12/5/voters-want-the-us-to-call-for-a-permanent-ceasefire-in-gaza-and-to-prioritize-diplomacy
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/48218-israel-palestine-fundamental-attitudes-to-the-conflict-among-western-europeans
MongI also think violence is definitely not helping Palestinians and a peaceful solution would be much more effective.
Reminder Netanyahu shut down peace talks and every "offer" Israel has given to Palestine for a "two state solution" has involved Palestine ceding not only land in the West Bank that Israeli settlers are illegally settling on, but additional land that Israel wants from the West Bank, as well as provisions that still would let Israel occupy Palestine if they deem there to be a vague "security risk". Israel has not offered a peaceful solution that isn't inherently violent, while Palestine has.
posted 4 months ago
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Mong
Settlers are not terrorists, no. I don't particularly agree with settlers being in the West Bank either. Doesn't mean Hamas is justified or that innocent settlers should be killed.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100706021237/http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/files/131/1671.pdf
https://www.government.se/statements/2023/12/joint-statement-on-settler-violence-on-the-west-bank/
posted 4 months ago
#139
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MongThe West Bank... also... has... terrorists.
well yeah but they're israeli
posted 4 months ago
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When you cut off 90% of Palestinians from having access to drinkable water, bomb as many residential buildings you can, bomb all but 13 hospitals, bomb almost every school, cut all Palestinians electricity, stop food trucks from entering, and kill tens of thousands of civilians because you value an Israeli soldier life 100x the value of a Palestinian civilian life, this is not an efficient way of getting rid of Hamas. It is collective punishment, and genocide. All civilians in Gaza are trapped in Gaza by Israel, and Israel is essentially dropping bombs on top of them in the off chance that the bomb also reaches an underground tunnel directly under them that happens to have a Hamas member in it. There is nothing, nothing that can possibly justify the tactics Israel is using on Gaza.
posted 4 months ago
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JwIsn't it interesting how support for Israel and support for mass immigration from the Middle East complement each other so nicely? In the US and Europe, if you support mass immigration and Middle-Eastern multiculturalism, you are indirectly supporting Israeli hegemony; Israel wants the Palestinians gone from the area as much as certain people in the West wish to "welcome them" to our countries.
And similarly, the so-called conservatives who support Israeli domination in the Middle East are indirectly supporting the very mass immigration they claim to oppose. In truth, the only way to be anti-Israel is to be anti-immigration, and the only way to be anti-immigration is to be anti-Israel. It seems, however, that there are certain people who paradoxically support both mass immigration from the Middle East and Israeli domination at the same time!
posted 4 months ago
#85
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laikyAs I had already told him, the new highlander season starts in January, and then I will be able to reimburse him in full (35 keys).
I learned a lot from this situation, and I acknowledge my lack of due diligence led to this situation unfolding the way it did.
Are you seriously saying that it's going to take you another full month on top of the 5 months it's already taken for you to pay him back $60
posted 4 months ago
#53
funniest tf2 dramas?
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Season 5 of RGL HL one of the teams in grand finals decided to hard throw the game because they knew they were gonna lose. i remember watching the finals cast and the casters were humiliated to have to cast/take it seriously when one team's pyro was only using The Ham Shank.
posted 5 months ago
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my fucked up tf2 story. nothing ever goes my way.
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didnt read but sorry that happened to you
posted 5 months ago