What appalls me is that he says "I was trying to do a genuinely good thing, I don't scam anymore. You can get your items back" and then he doesn't give the items back. just fucking sad.

I just ordered a zowie evo ec1. Thank you so much for all the help, guys!

EDIT: got the email saying that zowie doesn't sell those anymore. Crap.

Do any of you have an opinion on the logitech g402 hyperion fury? Because I've also been looking into that.

EDIT 2: Just ordered a zowie fk1 as I have small hands. NOW thank you for all the answers.

Thank you all for all the replies, guys!

so generally what I'm getting from this thread is that the zowie ec is good for palm grip and is a good, solid mouse? cause (I know this is hasty xD) I'm hoping to order a new one tonight, as I have no spare mice and tf2 is basically unplayable with my current one. :P

I've read some reviews about the EC mice, and a few of them say that they start failing after a couple of months, and I like to buy mice for the long term, is them starting to break/peel quickly common or a rare thing (if you have one)?

Also, I do have fairly small hands. so fk1 works ok for palming if you have small hands?

Hi, I currently use a razer deathadder optical mouse (which is now broken) and I palm grip. I was wondering what mouse I should go for (my price range is anything below $100). I've been very interested in Zowie mice, but everything I've read seems to say that zowie is more for claw grip so.... I'm kinda lost.