Dunno about anyone else, but I had a hoot watching this (the VOD's chat replay is evidence enough). The potential attendance problems are troubling, but I really hope Serpents end up working something out. All I want in life is seeing chat melt down at the possibility of an IRL Shadowburn interview. Well, that and CIS TF2 players playing at a major LAN.
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Dunno about anyone else, but I had a hoot watching this (the VOD's chat replay is evidence enough). The potential attendance problems are troubling, but I really hope Serpents end up working something out. All I want in life is seeing chat melt down at the possibility of an IRL Shadowburn interview. Well, that and CIS TF2 players playing at a major LAN.
Ond_kajathere's literally no incentive to play unless you are the best team, at which point you can barely fund yourself to LANs without fundraisers. but to be the best you have to put a lot of time and effort into the game, except putting a lot of time and effort into the game is barely worth it in the first place.
if you want to see teams becoming better, there has to be an actual incentive to do the boring stuff in playing the game (organising, practising, team talks etc.). i've done them over and over again and after 7 years of playing this game i came third in prem which granted me an amazing amount of €200 which can fund 1/10 of our lan trips on budget+ (if the money were paid out BEFORE the LAN season, which is unlikely by ETF2L standards). i realise if i win this AMAZING prize of €1000 + win s23+24 + dreamhack, there is going to be a total of like €4000, at which point you can MAYBE even afford to book hotels during your lan trips. now was that worth the amount of time you put into the game to actually become the best? probably not.
if you think that becoming the best in the game is actually worth it, you are delusional. this isn't some pro esport, i play the game because i think it's fun, and although i WANT to become the best, i neither want or can put hours on end into this game because i actually have other stuff do in my life.
now can you idiots PLEASE stfu about the "state of tf" or whatever, I don't play the game for a living and you have no rights to complain about the standard of gameplay or production quality if you don't do anything yourself to try to improve the situation (maybe make a team that can beat the prem teams, except you can't because you're also fucking terrible).
I agree, I don't see TF2 as eSports and I am long past that stage but for people like Sideshow trying to organise this stuff and giving the game a future, they need the best teams/players to go even if they have to beg for money every LAN so not to be out of pocket. I honestly think TFTV should do fundraisers for these big LANs every year until the game does eventually grow big enough to attract the level of sponsor that will offer LAN support consistently again.
(I doubt this will happen but that is the only possibility) Good luck to the teams going, think it will be a great event to watch.
[quote=Ond_kaja]there's literally no incentive to play unless you are the best team, at which point you can barely fund yourself to LANs without fundraisers. but to be the best you have to put a lot of time and effort into the game, except putting a lot of time and effort into the game is barely worth it in the first place.
if you want to see teams becoming better, there has to be an actual incentive to do the boring stuff in playing the game (organising, practising, team talks etc.). i've done them over and over again and after 7 years of playing this game i came third in prem which granted me an amazing amount of €200 which can fund 1/10 of our lan trips on budget+ (if the money were paid out BEFORE the LAN season, which is unlikely by ETF2L standards). i realise if i win this AMAZING prize of €1000 + win s23+24 + dreamhack, there is going to be a total of like €4000, at which point you can MAYBE even afford to book hotels during your lan trips. now was that worth the amount of time you put into the game to actually become the best? probably not.
if you think that becoming the best in the game is actually worth it, you are delusional. this isn't some pro esport, i play the game because i think it's fun, and although i WANT to become the best, i neither want or can put hours on end into this game because i actually have other stuff do in my life.
now can you idiots PLEASE stfu about the "state of tf" or whatever, I don't play the game for a living and you have no rights to complain about the standard of gameplay or production quality if you don't do anything yourself to try to improve the situation (maybe make a team that can beat the prem teams, except you can't because you're also fucking terrible).[/quote]
I agree, I don't see TF2 as eSports and I am long past that stage but for people like Sideshow trying to organise this stuff and giving the game a future, they need the best teams/players to go even if they have to beg for money every LAN so not to be out of pocket. I honestly think TFTV should do fundraisers for these big LANs every year until the game does eventually grow big enough to attract the level of sponsor that will offer LAN support consistently again.
(I doubt this will happen but that is the only possibility) Good luck to the teams going, think it will be a great event to watch.
if you want to see teams becoming better, there has to be an actual incentive to do the boring stuff in playing the game (organising, practising, team talks etc.). i've done them over and over again and after 7 years of playing this game i came third in prem which granted me an amazing amount of €200 which can fund 1/10 of our lan trips on budget+ (if the money were paid out BEFORE the LAN season, which is unlikely by ETF2L standards). i realise if i win this AMAZING prize of €1000 + win s23+24 + dreamhack, there is going to be a total of like €4000, at which point you can MAYBE even afford to book hotels during your lan trips. now was that worth the amount of time you put into the game to actually become the best? probably not.
if you think that becoming the best in the game is actually worth it, you are delusional. this isn't some pro esport, i play the game because i think it's fun, and although i WANT to become the best, i neither want or can put hours on end into this game because i actually have other stuff do in my life.
now can you idiots PLEASE stfu about the "state of tf" or whatever, I don't play the game for a living and you have no rights to complain about the standard of gameplay or production quality if you don't do anything yourself to try to improve the situation (maybe make a team that can beat the prem teams, except you can't because you're also fucking terrible).[/quote]
I agree, I don't see TF2 as eSports and I am long past that stage but for people like Sideshow trying to organise this stuff and giving the game a future, they need the best teams/players to go even if they have to beg for money every LAN so not to be out of pocket. I honestly think TFTV should do fundraisers for these big LANs every year until the game does eventually grow big enough to attract the level of sponsor that will offer LAN support consistently again.
(I doubt this will happen but that is the only possibility) Good luck to the teams going, think it will be a great event to watch.
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