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Cock Launcher Vs Stock RL
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#31
-5 Frags +
mince__it would probably be better for your argument if you actually contextualized it to tf2 instead of linking to the wikipedia page

ok, for those who have trouble comprehending a wikipedia page:

if something lands 100% in the middle of my crosshair it is perfectly accurate, anything less than that makes it less accurate or from an extreme point of view, which i've decided to take to make a point, not accurate.

precision is when the rocket hits the same spot every time under the same circumstances which makes both launchers 100% precise.

[quote=mince__]it would probably be better for your argument if you actually contextualized it to tf2 instead of linking to the wikipedia page[/quote]
ok, for those who have trouble comprehending a wikipedia page:

if something lands 100% in the middle of my crosshair it is perfectly accurate, anything less than that makes it less accurate or from an extreme point of view, which i've decided to take to make a point, not accurate.

precision is when the rocket hits the same spot every time under the same circumstances which makes both launchers 100% precise.
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#32
2 Frags +

It takes less time to perform a rocket jump on the right side with the stock RL because you don't have to turn your view as far to the side as you do with the original. However it takes more time to perform a jump on the left side.

I find I can be slightly more mobile (assuming I use mostly RH rocket jumps) with the stock RL than with the original. Can be useful for jumping around everywhere with gunboats.

It takes less time to perform a rocket jump on the right side with the stock RL because you don't have to turn your view as far to the side as you do with the original. However it takes more time to perform a jump on the left side.

I find I can be slightly more mobile (assuming I use mostly RH rocket jumps) with the stock RL than with the original. Can be useful for jumping around everywhere with gunboats.
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#33
-4 Frags +
hoolimince__it would probably be better for your argument if you actually contextualized it to tf2 instead of linking to the wikipedia pageok, for those who have trouble comprehending a wikipedia page:

if something lands 100% in the middle of my crosshair it is perfectly accurate, anything less than that makes it less accurate or from an extreme point of view, which i've decided to take to make a point, not accurate.

precision is when the rocket hits the same spot every time under the same circumstances which makes both launchers 100% precise.

Thank you!!! People are always confusing accuracy and precision.

To answer your question OP, original all the way. How can you not like that it shoots from the middle?

[quote=hooli][quote=mince__]it would probably be better for your argument if you actually contextualized it to tf2 instead of linking to the wikipedia page[/quote]
ok, for those who have trouble comprehending a wikipedia page:

if something lands 100% in the middle of my crosshair it is perfectly accurate, anything less than that makes it less accurate or from an extreme point of view, which i've decided to take to make a point, not accurate.

precision is when the rocket hits the same spot every time under the same circumstances which makes both launchers 100% precise.[/quote]

Thank you!!! People are always confusing accuracy and precision.

To answer your question OP, original all the way. How can you not like that it shoots from the middle?
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#34
5 Frags +

I'm an idiot who plays lefty (I'm right handed). Playing lefty I feel more comfortable doing jumps from the left. The original is better for me.

I'm an idiot who plays lefty (I'm right handed). Playing lefty I feel more comfortable doing jumps from the left. The original is better for me.
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#35
11 Frags +
thrasherI'm an idiot who plays lefty (I'm right handed). Playing lefty I feel more comfortable doing jumps from the left. The original is better for me.

There's a setting which swaps viewmodels to the left, surprisingly it also switches where rockets/pipes/etc come from, cl_flipviewmodels 1/0.

[quote=thrasher]I'm an idiot who plays lefty (I'm right handed). Playing lefty I feel more comfortable doing jumps from the left. The original is better for me.[/quote]
There's a setting which swaps viewmodels to the left, surprisingly it also switches where rockets/pipes/etc come from, cl_flipviewmodels 1/0.
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#36
1 Frags +

Playing with the original is like playing with an ambidextrous mouse.
You can do use either hand, like being able to rocket jump both left and right.
Playing with the stock is like playing with a right handed mouse.
It's hard to flick left when jumping but you can still do it.

Overall, it's really preference.

Playing with the original is like playing with an ambidextrous mouse.
You can do use either hand, like being able to rocket jump both left and right.
Playing with the stock is like playing with a right handed mouse.
It's hard to flick left when jumping but you can still do it.

Overall, it's really preference.
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#37
38 Frags +

There's a few spam angles that are only possible with the original. I used this one everytime my medic was climbing spire on badlands:

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For this reason alone I think it's objectively better.

I also think it's better for the current map pool's corners. Lots of people think it just equalizes out since you're better at some corners and worse at others, but it really doesn't. Some corners matter a lot more, like peeking top when defending badlands last. It's way easier to peek that with the original than the normal RL. I actually went through most maps and figured I should swap to left-handed models, but decided against it since I valued the spam angles + easier pogo routes with the original.

There's a few spam angles that are only possible with the original. I used this one everytime my medic was climbing spire on badlands:

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/NjYfQbT.jpg?1[/spoiler]

For this reason alone I think it's objectively better.

I also think it's better for the current map pool's corners. Lots of people think it just equalizes out since you're better at some corners and worse at others, but it really doesn't. Some corners matter a lot more, like peeking top when defending badlands last. It's way easier to peek that with the original than the normal RL. I actually went through most maps and figured I should swap to left-handed models, but decided against it since I valued the spam angles + easier pogo routes with the original.
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#38
10 Frags +
SeagullThere's a few spam angles that are only possible with the original. I used this one everytime my medic was climbing spire on badlands:
Show Content

For this reason alone I think it's objectively better.

I also think it's better for the current map pool's corners. Lots of people think it just equalizes out since you're better at some corners and worse at others, but it really doesn't. Some corners matter a lot more, like peeking top when defending badlands last. It's way easier to peek that with the original than the normal RL. I actually went through most maps and figured I should swap to left-handed models, but decided against it since I valued the spam angles + easier pogo routes with the original.

the seagull has spoken

[quote=Seagull]There's a few spam angles that are only possible with the original. I used this one everytime my medic was climbing spire on badlands:

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/NjYfQbT.jpg?1[/spoiler]

For this reason alone I think it's objectively better.

I also think it's better for the current map pool's corners. Lots of people think it just equalizes out since you're better at some corners and worse at others, but it really doesn't. Some corners matter a lot more, like peeking top when defending badlands last. It's way easier to peek that with the original than the normal RL. I actually went through most maps and figured I should swap to left-handed models, but decided against it since I valued the spam angles + easier pogo routes with the original.[/quote]

the seagull has spoken
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#39
14 Frags +

the right/left sided projectile source is used for every projectile based weapon in the game(crossbow, needles, pipes, stickies, flares, etc.) so a lot of people argue that the stock is better to play with for consistency's sake

I personally take the original as being the only bastion of hope in a world of silly design decisions

the fact that a projectile source cvar hasn't been introduced in this game after all this time baffles me
fuckin terrible developers

edit: it's not more accurate it's more intuitive for rockets to travel from the point at the center of your crosshair to the point at which the ray, as defined by your crosshair and an arbitrary point in 3d space, intersects with projectile clipping terrain (center of screen to where you're looking on the map)

the right/left sided projectile source is used for every projectile based weapon in the game(crossbow, needles, pipes, stickies, flares, etc.) so a lot of people argue that the stock is better to play with for consistency's sake

I personally take the original as being the only bastion of hope in a world of silly design decisions

the fact that a projectile source cvar hasn't been introduced in this game after all this time baffles me
fuckin terrible developers

edit: it's not more accurate it's more [u]intuitive[/u] for rockets to travel from the point at the center of your crosshair to the point at which the ray, as defined by your crosshair and an arbitrary point in 3d space, intersects with projectile clipping terrain (center of screen to where you're looking on the map)
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#40
-13 Frags +

original is better, but when i play pyro in pubs i hate it since the sound throws off my reflect reacitons

original is better, but when i play pyro in pubs i hate it since the sound throws off my reflect reacitons
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#41
-3 Frags +
WaldothrasherI'm an idiot who plays lefty (I'm right handed). Playing lefty I feel more comfortable doing jumps from the left. The original is better for me.There's a setting which swaps viewmodels to the left, surprisingly it also switches where rockets/pipes/etc come from, cl_flipviewmodels 1/0.

wait what? so if I had a bind to switch viewmodel sides and use stock then I could peek both left and right corners more effectively than original?

[quote=Waldo][quote=thrasher]I'm an idiot who plays lefty (I'm right handed). Playing lefty I feel more comfortable doing jumps from the left. The original is better for me.[/quote]
There's a setting which swaps viewmodels to the left, surprisingly it also switches where rockets/pipes/etc come from, cl_flipviewmodels 1/0.[/quote]

wait what? so if I had a bind to switch viewmodel sides and use stock then I could peek both left and right corners more effectively than original?
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#42
3 Frags +

ded

ded
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#43
5 Frags +
WaldothrasherI'm an idiot who plays lefty (I'm right handed). Playing lefty I feel more comfortable doing jumps from the left. The original is better for me.There's a setting which swaps viewmodels to the left, surprisingly it also switches where rockets/pipes/etc come from, cl_flipviewmodels 1/0.

Yeah I know about the viewmodel switch, but it just feels so weird seeing the stock RL on the left. I can't play like that. I tried the stock with the model on the left with viewmodels off, and it seemed ok, but then the original came out. Ill never go back to the stock.

[quote=Waldo][quote=thrasher]I'm an idiot who plays lefty (I'm right handed). Playing lefty I feel more comfortable doing jumps from the left. The original is better for me.[/quote]
There's a setting which swaps viewmodels to the left, surprisingly it also switches where rockets/pipes/etc come from, cl_flipviewmodels 1/0.[/quote]


Yeah I know about the viewmodel switch, but it just feels so weird seeing the stock RL on the left. I can't play like that. I tried the stock with the model on the left with viewmodels off, and it seemed ok, but then the original came out. Ill never go back to the stock.
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#44
15 Frags +
SeagullThere's a few spam angles that are only possible with the original. I used this one everytime my medic was climbing spire on badlands:
Show Content

For this reason alone I think it's objectively better.

I also think it's better for the current map pool's corners. Lots of people think it just equalizes out since you're better at some corners and worse at others, but it really doesn't. Some corners matter a lot more, like peeking top when defending badlands last. It's way easier to peek that with the original than the normal RL. I actually went through most maps and figured I should swap to left-handed models, but decided against it since I valued the spam angles + easier pogo routes with the original.

i can do all these things
the original is for hosers!

[quote=Seagull]There's a few spam angles that are only possible with the original. I used this one everytime my medic was climbing spire on badlands:

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/NjYfQbT.jpg?1[/spoiler]

For this reason alone I think it's objectively better.

I also think it's better for the current map pool's corners. Lots of people think it just equalizes out since you're better at some corners and worse at others, but it really doesn't. Some corners matter a lot more, like peeking top when defending badlands last. It's way easier to peek that with the original than the normal RL. I actually went through most maps and figured I should swap to left-handed models, but decided against it since I valued the spam angles + easier pogo routes with the original.[/quote]

i can do all these things
the original is for hosers!
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#45
2 Frags +

It's all preference.

It's all preference.
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#46
21 Frags +

stock looks better in frag videos so the choice is obvious

dont listen to seagull he has his priorities all fucked

stock looks better in frag videos so the choice is obvious

dont listen to seagull he has his priorities all fucked
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#47
-7 Frags +

why is this getting -frag so hard lol?

why is this getting -frag so hard lol?
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#48
4 Frags +
RoodYwhy is this getting -frag so hard lol?

Probably the name.. also its been asked many times

[quote=RoodY]why is this getting -frag so hard lol?[/quote]
Probably the name.. also its been asked many times
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#49
9 Frags +

stock is better for rjing

stock is better for rjing
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