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RGL S11 Advanced Happenings/Discussion
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Discussion thread for Season 11 of RGL Advanced.
Congratulations to last season's winners, RPC!

You can view last season's Advanced discussion thread here.

Discussion thread for Season 11 of RGL Advanced.
Congratulations to last season's winners, RPC!

You can view last season's Advanced discussion thread [url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/62149/rgl-s10-advanced-happenings-discussion]here[/url].
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Rick tuched me

Rick tuched me
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thread already ruined

thread already ruined
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Fireside Casts
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Fireside Casts will be covering advanced this season

If you see any discord messages from siyo#5532 or Dr. Underscore it's probably in regards to casting your match. Cheers :)

Fireside Casts will be covering advanced this season

If you see any discord messages from siyo#5532 or Dr. Underscore it's probably in regards to casting your match. Cheers :)
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#8
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#9
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to be fair they got 3rd to pyro last season

to be fair they got 3rd to pyro last season
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#10
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I look forward to matches with all the teams (twice, only like 8 other teams lol)

I look forward to matches with all the teams (twice, only like 8 other teams lol)
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#11
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hannahto be fair they got 3rd to pyro last season

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/160482990345027584/1065633101306404864/Mumble-2022-06-13-023421.jpg?width=425&height=393

[quote=hannah]to be fair they got 3rd to pyro last season[/quote]
[img]https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/160482990345027584/1065633101306404864/Mumble-2022-06-13-023421.jpg?width=425&height=393[/img]
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no hate, just wondering why this rule is being ignored here

https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=11068&r=40
https://imgur.com/a/EmCUaa4

no hate, just wondering why this rule is being ignored here

[url=https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=11068&r=40]https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=11068&r=40[/url]
[url=https://imgur.com/a/EmCUaa4]https://imgur.com/a/EmCUaa4[/url]
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#14
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Litrono hate, just wondering why this rule is being ignored here

https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=11068&r=40
https://imgur.com/a/EmCUaa4

@hunter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7G4llfXc2M

[quote=Litro]no hate, just wondering why this rule is being ignored here

[url=https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=11068&r=40]https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=11068&r=40[/url]
[url=https://imgur.com/a/EmCUaa4]https://imgur.com/a/EmCUaa4[/url][/quote]

@hunter

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7G4llfXc2M[/youtube]
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#15
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Litrono hate, just wondering why this rule is being ignored here

https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=11068&r=40
https://imgur.com/a/EmCUaa4

That rule was intended to be Main and below, will make sure it's updated to reflect this.

[quote=Litro]no hate, just wondering why this rule is being ignored here

[url=https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=11068&r=40]https://rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=11068&r=40[/url]
[url=https://imgur.com/a/EmCUaa4]https://imgur.com/a/EmCUaa4[/url][/quote]

That rule was intended to be Main and below, will make sure it's updated to reflect this.
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#16
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don't meant to dogpile on rgl but these restrictions still make no sense for what they're trying to do. nomi is banned from soldier because he got 3rd last season? he's played scout/demo in invite. likewise bwelp and skele have already won div 1 on their offclasses. why is monsta even banned from scout? he played medic last season and i don't think he's ever even played scout beyond advanced.. meanwhile nomi is banned from a class he played last season that isn't even his main

to me it's never made sense to be so harsh with the class restrictions in advanced. I get why we have class restrictions for lower divs, but as a person that only has advanced and lower experience i enjoy the opportunity to play vs teams like kronge or RPC last season which had experienced low/mid invite players throughout their rosters. Last season was a pretty competitive season during playoffs and i attribute a lot of that to teams being allowed to actually have their players on their main classes. kronge have never dominated a season of advanced. none of their players are steamrolling thru the div, why even bother banning them?

don't meant to dogpile on rgl but these restrictions still make no sense for what they're trying to do. nomi is banned from soldier because he got 3rd last season? he's played scout/demo in invite. likewise bwelp and skele have already won div 1 on their offclasses. why is monsta even banned from scout? he played medic last season and i don't think he's ever even played scout beyond advanced.. meanwhile nomi is banned from a class he played last season that isn't even his main

to me it's never made sense to be so harsh with the class restrictions in advanced. I get why we have class restrictions for lower divs, but as a person that only has advanced and lower experience i enjoy the opportunity to play vs teams like kronge or RPC last season which had experienced low/mid invite players throughout their rosters. Last season was a pretty competitive season during playoffs and i attribute a lot of that to teams being allowed to actually have their players on their main classes. kronge have never dominated a season of advanced. none of their players are steamrolling thru the div, why even bother banning them?
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mmrarkte

i would normally be inclined to agree however this season of adv is far weaker than any previous season by a long shot. unrestricted kronge would easily roll over this season without much contest i think

[quote=mmrarkte][/quote]
i would normally be inclined to agree however this season of adv is far weaker than any previous season by a long shot. unrestricted kronge would easily roll over this season without much contest i think
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#18
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In the past, sandbagging complaints have been from lower divisions only. (Invite Players in Main or lower, etc)

Can RGL please let us know if any Adv teams/players have complained about sandbagging in Advanced?
Frankly, if you signup to play in advanced then you are expecting to play top competition and have nothing to complain about.

No hate on the players from Kronge at all but none of them have done anything significant in Invite to warrant a sandbagging rule. 5/13 being the best results I can see on any record with no playoff experience. Why would they get banned from main classes in Advanced? The only thing I can think of is that they decided they don't want to play in invite. This roster can easily play with and probably beat all the invite qualifier teams but is not playing.

In the past, sandbagging complaints have been from lower divisions only. (Invite Players in Main or lower, etc)

[b]Can RGL please let us know if any Adv teams/players have complained about sandbagging in Advanced?
Frankly, if you signup to play in advanced then you are expecting to play top competition and have nothing to complain about.[/b]

No hate on the players from Kronge at all but none of them have done anything significant in Invite to warrant a sandbagging rule. 5/13 being the best results I can see on any record with no playoff experience. Why would they get banned from main classes in Advanced? The only thing I can think of is that they decided they don't want to play in invite. This roster can easily play with and probably beat all the invite qualifier teams but is not playing.
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monsta has played one season of scout in RGL, 8 seasons ago, and got third.
Prior to that, he never played scout in ESEA.
Apparently this means he has “proved to be an outstanding scout through and through, especially for advanced.”
The other bans are w/e, it's the main cast of kronge + what they played last season. But monsta's restriction seems to completely deviate from past guidelines for restrictions.

monsta has played one season of scout in RGL, 8 seasons ago, and got third.
Prior to that, he never played scout in ESEA.
Apparently this means he has “proved to be an outstanding scout through and through, especially for advanced.”
The other bans are w/e, it's the main cast of kronge + what they played last season. But monsta's restriction seems to completely deviate from past guidelines for restrictions.
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#20
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Hunter_2_0monsta has played one season of scout in RGL, 8 seasons ago, and got third.
Prior to that, he never played scout in ESEA.

https://i.ibb.co/ZmCG4r8/image.png

[quote=Hunter_2_0]monsta has played one season of scout in RGL, 8 seasons ago, and got third.
Prior to that, he never played scout in ESEA.
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[img]https://i.ibb.co/ZmCG4r8/image.png[/img]
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#21
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We typically just don't want whole rosters playing in adv season after season, hence we tend to lightly restrict them after they place top 3. Plus, as mentioned, this season advanced is just holistically weaker. We've typically only restricted players from their main if they placed top 4 in invite on it, with Kronge receiving very few restrictions overall the past few seasons they played. This season it's stronger to reflect the weaker div as a whole.

We typically just don't want whole rosters playing in adv season after season, hence we tend to lightly restrict them after they place top 3. Plus, as mentioned, this season advanced is just holistically weaker. We've typically only restricted players from their main if they placed top 4 in invite on it, with Kronge receiving very few restrictions overall the past few seasons they played. This season it's stronger to reflect the weaker div as a whole.
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umlpst

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if they really want to eliminate sandbaggers i would just force that team to move up or they dont get to play. not saying that i agree with that just what i would do

if they really want to eliminate sandbaggers i would just force that team to move up or they dont get to play. not saying that i agree with that just what i would do
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Hunter_2_0umlpstOMFG

They literally tried that roster for 2 days until they swapped rio back on demo and monsta scout. Then rio left and they picked up exile on demo. So basically monsta played scout in Invite for a whole szn OMG!!!!

[quote=Hunter_2_0][quote=umlpst]
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OMFG[/quote]
They literally tried that roster for 2 days until they swapped rio back on demo and monsta scout. Then rio left and they picked up exile on demo. So basically monsta played scout in Invite for a whole szn [url=https://logs.tf/2213596#76561198018793342]OMG!!!! [/url]
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umlpst

ok I'm not going to deny that I was wrong about the classes but is monsta going 5-11 with 2 forfeit wins on kcrew 12 seasons ago really proof that he's going to roll advanced

[quote=umlpst] [/quote] ok I'm not going to deny that I was wrong about the classes but is monsta going 5-11 with 2 forfeit wins on kcrew 12 seasons ago really proof that he's going to roll advanced
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Forcing a team to just not play is lame, even though they could roll through the quals teams i think that would've been a decision that had to be made weeks ago now. rgl shoud figure out what bans are what tho if they're deciding to go down that path.

Forcing a team to just not play is lame, even though they could roll through the quals teams i think that would've been a decision that had to be made weeks ago now. rgl shoud figure out what bans are what tho if they're deciding to go down that path.
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#27
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anyone defending them are their friends dont be fooled

anyone defending them are their friends dont be fooled
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#28
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dingoif they really want to eliminate sandbaggers i would just force that team to move up or they dont get to play. not saying that i agree with that just what i would do

Just hard to do that with advanced, as invite is the only div we can move them too and it's hard to balance teams that actually want to be in invite and are capable vs. teams that are invite capable that don't want to be there. We do that with other divs though.

[quote=dingo]if they really want to eliminate sandbaggers i would just force that team to move up or they dont get to play. not saying that i agree with that just what i would do[/quote]

Just hard to do that with advanced, as invite is the only div we can move them too and it's hard to balance teams that actually want to be in invite and are capable vs. teams that are invite capable that don't want to be there. We do that with other divs though.
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Virgildingoif they really want to eliminate sandbaggers i would just force that team to move up or they dont get to play. not saying that i agree with that just what i would do
Just hard to do that with advanced, as invite is the only div we can move them too and it's hard to balance teams that actually want to be in invite and are capable vs. teams that are invite capable that don't want to be there. We do that with other divs though.

then its simple, dont let them play

[quote=Virgil][quote=dingo]if they really want to eliminate sandbaggers i would just force that team to move up or they dont get to play. not saying that i agree with that just what i would do[/quote]

Just hard to do that with advanced, as invite is the only div we can move them too and it's hard to balance teams that actually want to be in invite and are capable vs. teams that are invite capable that don't want to be there. We do that with other divs though.[/quote]
then its simple, dont let them play
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VirgilPlus, as mentioned, this season advanced is just holistically weaker.

time for my chance to make invite after 30 years

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/671954033153540118/1067172894762860564/image.png

[quote=Virgil]Plus, as mentioned, this season advanced is just holistically weaker. [/quote]
time for my chance to make invite after 30 years
[img]https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/671954033153540118/1067172894762860564/image.png[/img]
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