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#freeb0nes
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#1
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My beloved Jon Taffer Bar Rescue enjoying combo scout got banned for 2 weeks for submitting his pov demo 2 days late. Sure it was the 2nd offense, but his first one was over a year ago during his first season playing RGL. 2 weeks is too much, especially since they didn't find anything suspicious in the demo.

https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198120312532&r=40
he dindu nuffin #freeb0nes

My beloved Jon Taffer Bar Rescue enjoying combo scout got banned for 2 weeks for submitting his pov demo 2 days late. Sure it was the 2nd offense, but his first one was over a year ago during his first season playing RGL. 2 weeks is too much, especially since they didn't find anything suspicious in the demo.

https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198120312532&r=40
he dindu nuffin #freeb0nes
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#2
0 Frags +

let him eat spicy goodness like a boss again

let him eat spicy goodness like a boss again
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#3
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https://tenor.com/view/how-drunk-are-you-right-now-drunk-not-sober-wasted-jon-taffer-gif-13750332

https://tenor.com/view/how-drunk-are-you-right-now-drunk-not-sober-wasted-jon-taffer-gif-13750332
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#4
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/962139525717565462/985425863170490448/776.jpg

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/962139525717565462/985425863170490448/776.jpg[/img]
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#5
9 Frags +

Did he submit the demo after 2 days and then get banned or did he finally submit it when he saw he got the punishment for it?

Did he submit the demo after 2 days and then get banned or did he finally submit it when he saw he got the punishment for it?
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#6
6 Frags +

if he had the demo the whole time why didn't he just submit it when he was supposed to

if he had the demo the whole time why didn't he just submit it when he was supposed to
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#7
18 Frags +

pro tip if you want sympathy for something then be sure to never say " dindu nuffin"

pro tip if you want sympathy for something then be sure to never say " dindu nuffin"
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#8
4 Frags +
dbkif he had the demo the whole time why didn't he just submit it when he was supposed to

he got high and forgot

[quote=dbk]if he had the demo the whole time why didn't he just submit it when he was supposed to[/quote]
he got high and forgot
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#9
1 Frags +

didnt learn the first time huh?

didnt learn the first time huh?
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#10
4 Frags +

no

no
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#11
-22 Frags +
BrockDid he submit the demo after 2 days and then get banned or did he finally submit it when he saw he got the punishment for it?

basically nothing happened untill after I submitted it late. so they had my demo and then decided that I should be punished anyway.

here is the screenshot of the DM with the admin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949184067562258472/985593600677130250/20220612_131656.jpg
here is the ban start date proving they decided to ban me after the fact
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972357045934256180/985601069834981376/unknown.png

[quote=Brock]Did he submit the demo after 2 days and then get banned or did he finally submit it when he saw he got the punishment for it?[/quote]
basically nothing happened untill after I submitted it late. so they had my demo and then decided that I should be punished anyway.

here is the screenshot of the DM with the admin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949184067562258472/985593600677130250/20220612_131656.jpg
here is the ban start date proving they decided to ban me after the fact
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972357045934256180/985601069834981376/unknown.png
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#12
41 Frags +

wait so it wasnt just that you didnt provide your demos in 48 hours, you didnt even message back for 4 days? lol

wait so it wasnt just that you didnt provide your demos in 48 hours, you didnt even message back for 4 days? lol
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#13
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657222099211124757/981195869653188628/image0.gif

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657222099211124757/981195869653188628/image0.gif[/img]
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#14
-4 Frags +

2 weeks??

2 weeks??
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#15
36 Frags +

upgrade to perma ban

upgrade to perma ban
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#16
2 Frags +

who cares

who cares
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#17
19 Frags +

the rules are there your friend is just stupid

the rules are there your friend is just stupid
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#18
13 Frags +
b0nes_NAhere is the ban start date proving they decided to ban me after the fact
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972357045934256180/985601069834981376/unknown.png

maybe he got high and forgot to ban you for 2 days

[quote=b0nes_NA]here is the ban start date proving they decided to ban me after the fact
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972357045934256180/985601069834981376/unknown.png[/quote]
maybe he got high and forgot to ban you for 2 days
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#19
15 Frags +

i fucking hate zoomze so much. little highlander shit. huge ego.

i fucking hate zoomze so much. little highlander shit. huge ego.
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#20
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ssquaredindu nuffin

lol. lmao even.

[quote=ssquare]dindu nuffin[/quote]
lol. lmao even.
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#21
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I can perfectly understand this particular ruling but what still pisses plenty of people off is how there's 0 decay on demo offenses.
Obviously for every other possible ban offense it makes sense but if people are really gonna get punished for potentially two mistakes made more than a year apart it's not teaching them what you want to.

Paging antlers: https://www.teamfortress.tv/60393/thank-you-letter-to-rgl#13

I can perfectly understand this particular ruling but what still pisses plenty of people off is how there's 0 decay on demo offenses.
Obviously for every other possible ban offense it makes sense but if people are really gonna get punished for potentially two mistakes made more than a year apart it's not teaching them what you want to.

Paging antlers: https://www.teamfortress.tv/60393/thank-you-letter-to-rgl#13
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#22
RGL.gg
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RGL's argument is that once you make a special case for one person, then everyone is a special case.

But c'mon, the demos were two days late. There can be some compassion--spirit of the law vs letter of the law. This rule seems to be better at catching the people that are just bad at turning their homework in on time rather than actual cheaters lol.

RGL's argument is that once you make a special case for one person, then everyone is a special case.

But c'mon, the demos were two days late. There can be some compassion--spirit of the law vs letter of the law. This rule seems to be better at catching the people that are just bad at turning their homework in on time rather than actual cheaters lol.
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#23
14 Frags +

not that i like the taste of leather, but collecting and verifying demos from an entire div sounds like a huge pain in the ass, and having some actual leverage to get ppl to submit them in a reasonable timeframe probably prevents it being just impossible to do admin work

also june 5th -> june 9th is not "2 days" lol

not that i like the taste of leather, but collecting and verifying demos from an entire div sounds like a huge pain in the ass, and having some actual leverage to get ppl to submit them in a reasonable timeframe probably prevents it being just impossible to do admin work

also june 5th -> june 9th is not "2 days" lol
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#24
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brodyalso june 5th -> june 9th is not "2 days" lolssquare2 days late

2 days after 48-hour submission period.
Anyway, this is kinda irrelevant. It's too harsh a punishment for something so inconsequential.

[quote=brody]also june 5th -> june 9th is not "2 days" lol[/quote]
[quote=ssquare]2 days late[/quote]
2 days after 48-hour submission period.
Anyway, this is kinda irrelevant. It's too harsh a punishment for something so inconsequential.
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#25
14 Frags +

if a rule is broken, and you get punished, why the fuck are you complaining? Like honestly. "but it was only 2 days late" yeah well if you turn your bill two days late its still two days late. Get over it and just turn in the damn demos as soon as you see it.

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Like honestly can we stop making these dumb ass threads that go "My friend broke rule and got banned?!??!?!!!???!!" Like cmon guys. this shit is getting retarded at this point.

if a rule is broken, and you get punished, why the fuck are you complaining? Like honestly. "but it was only 2 days late" yeah well if you turn your bill two days late its still two days late. Get over it and just turn in the damn demos as soon as you see it.

EDIT:

Like honestly can we stop making these dumb ass threads that go "My friend broke rule and got banned?!??!?!!!???!!" Like cmon guys. this shit is getting retarded at this point.
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#26
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I think the ban lengths make sense if you put it in the context of "this person is cheating but we need proof, what's the longest ban length that is also not completely insane for people who are just very dumb and forgetful", but if you eventually submitted it I think it's a different case than people who just not submit because they're cheating.

Granted still kinda dumb to wait so long though so an infraction is prob still warranted to make it not impossible to admin the div.

I think the ban lengths make sense if you put it in the context of "this person is cheating but we need proof, what's the longest ban length that is also not completely insane for people who are just very dumb and forgetful", but if you eventually submitted it I think it's a different case than people who just not submit because they're cheating.

Granted still kinda dumb to wait so long though so an infraction is prob still warranted to make it not impossible to admin the div.
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#27
UGC
11 Frags +
seven1if a rule is broken, and you get punished, why the fuck are you complaining? Like honestly. "but it was only 2 days late" yeah well if you turn your bill two days late its still two days late. Get over it and just turn in the damn demos as soon as you see it.

Literally this. I assume everyone on this forum has been to school or had a job at some point - if you hand in an assignment or submit a work project late, using the excuse "bruh it was only 2 days" probably won't get you very far. RGL's expectations for players here are so unburdensome, first, they request you record your demos, something that takes 5 minutes tops to set up once, second, they ask you to submit them within 48 hours, even though it should take any person with a functioning brain literally 2 minutes max to find it, upload it, and send it to the admin. Even if RGL decided not to punish people for not submitting demos, they should still ban people for 2 weeks for being so incompetent.

[quote=seven1]if a rule is broken, and you get punished, why the fuck are you complaining? Like honestly. "but it was only 2 days late" yeah well if you turn your bill two days late its still two days late. Get over it and just turn in the damn demos as soon as you see it.[/quote]

Literally this. I assume everyone on this forum has been to school or had a job at some point - if you hand in an assignment or submit a work project late, using the excuse "bruh it was only 2 days" probably won't get you very far. RGL's expectations for players here are so unburdensome, first, they request you record your demos, something that takes 5 minutes tops to set up once, second, they ask you to submit them within [b]48 hours[/b], even though it should take any person with a functioning brain literally 2 minutes max to find it, upload it, and send it to the admin. Even if RGL decided not to punish people for not submitting demos, they should still ban people for 2 weeks for being so incompetent.
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#28
8 Frags +

its not even that he didnt submit in 48 hours, he literally just didnt respond for 4 days, not even an acknowledgement of intention to submit demos lmao

its not even that he didnt submit in 48 hours, he literally just didnt respond for 4 days, not even an acknowledgement of intention to submit demos lmao
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#29
3 Frags +

he got unbanned lol, what a joke

he got unbanned lol, what a joke
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#30
-18 Frags +

i think you're all missing that the point of the random rgl demo submissions is to stop people from cheating and that they just want it done in a timely matter so they can look into cheaters faster, but its pretty fucking obvious that bones wasnt cheating in the first place. youre all berating someone for being lazy but eventually doing what they were supposed to. who cares if bones is or isnt banned, like i understand why someone wouldnt want to be banned for something stupid like being late to submit a demo but i also understand why rgl has a time limit otherwise cheaters would hold off on submitting indefinitely

edit: and yeah there should probably be a decay on ban lengths stacking on eachother, also rgl needs to stop flip flopping on their decisions after the fact and do the thing they should have done the first time lmao

i think you're all missing that the point of the random rgl demo submissions is to stop people from cheating and that they just want it done in a timely matter so they can look into cheaters faster, but its pretty fucking obvious that bones wasnt cheating in the first place. youre all berating someone for being lazy but eventually doing what they were supposed to. who cares if bones is or isnt banned, like i understand why someone wouldnt want to be banned for something stupid like being late to submit a demo but i also understand why rgl has a time limit otherwise cheaters would hold off on submitting indefinitely

edit: and yeah there should probably be a decay on ban lengths stacking on eachother, also rgl needs to stop flip flopping on their decisions after the fact and do the thing they should have done the first time lmao
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