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Please stop the lies
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hello

im sad that i have to come back to this toxic cesspool of a game, but here i am :D i’m here to clear up all the rumors regarding midas having sexual activity with a minor, because that is just plainly false. i am confused as to why a rumor like this has directly affected me when i havent even been near this game in a year. please stop talking about stuff that you dont know directly for a fact, and dont continue to take people down for your oersonal merit based on any possible opportunity. i dont want to namecall but ive seen several people have their stories be shared on tftv just for them to see half the story and have their whole “online tf2 image” be ruined. but in this case there is no half of the story being shown. this is just a straight up lie. ryan has never done anything sexual with me and what we have is only a healthy relationship between us. please mind your own business and remember to respect others and only to love. i just recently even heard about all of this going on, and it is time to stop. thanks

hello

im sad that i have to come back to this toxic cesspool of a game, but here i am :D i’m here to clear up all the rumors regarding midas having sexual activity with a minor, because that is just plainly false. i am confused as to why a rumor like this has directly affected me when i havent even been near this game in a year. please stop talking about stuff that you dont know directly for a fact, and dont continue to take people down for your oersonal merit based on any possible opportunity. i dont want to namecall but ive seen several people have their stories be shared on tftv just for them to see half the story and have their whole “online tf2 image” be ruined. but in this case there is no half of the story being shown. this is just a straight up lie. ryan has never done anything sexual with me and what we have is only a healthy relationship between us. please mind your own business and remember to respect others and only to love. i just recently even heard about all of this going on, and it is time to stop. thanks
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Midas:
i never like made any sort of advancement on her ESPECIALLY sexually

[2:55 AM]
Redacted:
is that still true

[2:55 AM]
Midas:
if im going to be honest no
when we started dating i was 19 and she was 16

Please clarify this then.
I won't share the chatlog unless you are comfortable with that. But this part needs to be addressed
Edit: Midas is now 20. She turns 17 in March.

Midas:
i never like made any sort of advancement on her ESPECIALLY sexually

[2:55 AM]
Redacted:
is that still true

[2:55 AM]
Midas:
if im going to be honest no
when we started dating i was 19 and she was 16

Please clarify this then.
I won't share the chatlog unless you are comfortable with that. But this part needs to be addressed
Edit: Midas is now 20. She turns 17 in March.
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You seem like an unbiased individual :)

You seem like an unbiased individual :)
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Idk man this redacted evidence is pretty damning. 19 and 16? Seems to me like he's a Full Blown PeDoPhiLe!!!! I mean this is obviously a binary conundrum. 1 or 0. You're either a pedo or you're not and this is clearly a yes. Think of the victims. Everyone please call the FBI asap! Don't wait up!

Idk man this redacted evidence is pretty damning. 19 and 16? Seems to me like he's a Full Blown PeDoPhiLe!!!! I mean this is obviously a binary conundrum. 1 or 0. You're either a pedo or you're not and this is clearly a yes. Think of the victims. Everyone please call the FBI asap! Don't wait up!
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JaguarFiendIdk man this redacted evidence is pretty damning. 19 and 16? Seems to me like he's a Full Blown PeDoPhiLe!!!! I mean this is obviously a binary conundrum. 1 or 0. You're either a pedo or you're not and this is clearly a yes. Think of the victims. Everyone please call the FBI asap! Don't wait up!

It would be nice if the tf2 community could keep logically consistent and seeing as they've already destroyed another person's life over a similar scenario, I don't know why we'd start giving out free passes.

[quote=JaguarFiend]Idk man this redacted evidence is pretty damning. 19 and 16? Seems to me like he's a Full Blown PeDoPhiLe!!!! I mean this is obviously a binary conundrum. 1 or 0. You're either a pedo or you're not and this is clearly a yes. Think of the victims. Everyone please call the FBI asap! Don't wait up![/quote]
It would be nice if the tf2 community could keep logically consistent and seeing as they've already destroyed another person's life over a similar scenario, I don't know why we'd start giving out free passes.
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16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillax

16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillax
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Nub_DanishJaguarFiendIdk man this redacted evidence is pretty damning. 19 and 16? Seems to me like he's a Full Blown PeDoPhiLe!!!! I mean this is obviously a binary conundrum. 1 or 0. You're either a pedo or you're not and this is clearly a yes. Think of the victims. Everyone please call the FBI asap! Don't wait up!It would be nice if the tf2 community could keep logically consistent and seeing as they've already destroyed another person's life over a similar scenario, I don't know why we'd start giving out free passes.

This situation and the nursey/broking situation are in no way the same thing at all. There are a lot of details missing from this situation that you aren't seeing and I think its unfair to group midas in with nursey and broking

[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=JaguarFiend]Idk man this redacted evidence is pretty damning. 19 and 16? Seems to me like he's a Full Blown PeDoPhiLe!!!! I mean this is obviously a binary conundrum. 1 or 0. You're either a pedo or you're not and this is clearly a yes. Think of the victims. Everyone please call the FBI asap! Don't wait up![/quote]
It would be nice if the tf2 community could keep logically consistent and seeing as they've already destroyed another person's life over a similar scenario, I don't know why we'd start giving out free passes.[/quote]

This situation and the nursey/broking situation are in no way the same thing at all. There are a lot of details missing from this situation that you aren't seeing and I think its unfair to group midas in with nursey and broking
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16 and 19 is in the realm of creepy for me, but (if I’m wrong please correct me) as long as the 19 year old isn’t in a position of power over the 16 year old, it is legal. Without more info, it seems weird but not illegal

16 and 19 is in the realm of creepy for me, but (if I’m wrong please correct me) as long as the 19 year old isn’t in a position of power over the 16 year old, it is legal. Without more info, it seems weird but not illegal
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dbk16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillax

The average age of consent in the world is somewhere around 15, this is just retard NA people who have been indoctrinated into thinking people shouldn't have autonomy over there body until they're 18.

[quote=dbk]16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillax[/quote]
The average age of consent in the world is somewhere around 15, this is just retard NA people who have been indoctrinated into thinking people shouldn't have autonomy over there body until they're 18.
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I would like to argue that within the bounds of 'acceptable punishment' perhaps what some people did to Nursey (not the ban - definitely well-deserved) was probably not nessecarily 'life ruining', she just got banned from Team Fortress 2, not as if her life is over. TFTV is currently in witch-hunt mode to publicly execute anyone who has been accused in the past of questionable behavior, it isn't as though the facts and reactions of everyone are going to be consistent from case to case. It isn't like TFTV is one person with one single opinion on the entire subject. It is easily correct that nobody likes pedophiles but to say Midas engaged in the same type of behavior as Slamberg & Nursey is just...wrong, and you only need the facts to come to a similar conclusion. There is a clear, legally-defined difference between the type of pedophilic grooming and manipulation that the former 2 engaged in and what Midas was a part of. Midas has never been shown publicly to have manipulated Kaz. Both Kaz and Midas were in a consensual relationship.

The truth is is that Midas made a mistake to have engaged in questionable behavior in the first place, but it is certainly not fair to label him as a pedophile or to imply that he manipulated Kaz in the slightest into doing anything.

I would like to argue that within the bounds of 'acceptable punishment' perhaps what some people did to Nursey (not the ban - definitely well-deserved) was probably not nessecarily 'life ruining', she just got banned from Team Fortress 2, not as if her life is over. TFTV is currently in witch-hunt mode to publicly execute anyone who has been accused in the past of questionable behavior, it isn't as though the facts and reactions of everyone are going to be consistent from case to case. It isn't like TFTV is one person with one single opinion on the entire subject. It is easily correct that [b]nobody likes pedophiles[/b] but to say Midas engaged in the same type of behavior as Slamberg & Nursey is just...wrong, and you only need the facts to come to a similar conclusion. There is a clear, legally-defined difference between the type of pedophilic grooming and manipulation that the former 2 engaged in and what Midas was a part of. Midas has never been shown publicly to have manipulated Kaz. Both Kaz and Midas were in a consensual relationship.

The truth is is that Midas made a mistake to have engaged in questionable behavior in the first place, but it is certainly not fair to label him as a pedophile or to imply that he manipulated Kaz in the slightest into doing anything.
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Nub_Danishdbk16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillaxThe average age of consent in the world is somewhere around 15, this is just retard NA people who have been indoctrinated into thinking people shouldn't have autonomy over there body until they're 18.

you fucking retard laws are different everywhere
guess what there's no legal drinking age in china u can get wasted at 10! therefore i should be able to drink at 10 in the US and anyone who disagrees is just indoctrinated!
if you are actually trying to justify something that is considered pedophilia in the USA by saying its legal other places you are delusional

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[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=dbk]16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillax[/quote]
The average age of consent in the world is somewhere around 15, this is just retard NA people who have been indoctrinated into thinking people shouldn't have autonomy over there body until they're 18.[/quote]

you fucking retard laws are different everywhere
guess what there's no legal drinking age in china u can get wasted at 10! therefore i should be able to drink at 10 in the US and anyone who disagrees is just indoctrinated!
if you are actually trying to justify something that is considered pedophilia in the USA by saying its legal other places you are delusional

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https://i.imgur.com/SFoDULW.jpg

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[2:58 AM]
Midas:
i know
i know she has a lot of trust issues
shes definitely a lot more stable than she was before
and i wanted to hold off until she was at least 17 to tell anyone, since thats the legal age in my state

He clearly knows it's illegal wherever he lives.

[2:58 AM]
Midas:
i know
i know she has a lot of trust issues
shes definitely a lot more stable than she was before
and i wanted to hold off until she was at least 17 to tell anyone, since thats the legal age in my state

He clearly knows it's illegal wherever he lives.
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charisBoth Kaz and Midas were in a consensual relationship

Minors can't consent. that's the entire point

[quote=charis]Both Kaz and Midas were in a consensual relationship[/quote] Minors can't consent. that's the entire point
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ReflectoI won't share the chatlog unless you are comfortable with that. But this part needs to be addressed

Advancement does not need to be of a sexual nature in a relationship. I know that is what is implied, but I am inclined to believe that my good friend of over 4 years is indeed, a good person (and I know him to be a good person as well). In addition, considering that the girl in question is stating that nothing sexual was done, I am leaning towards this inclination. However, I suppose nothing is set in stone until someone directly involved makes a statement.

Nub_DanishJaguarFiendIdk man this redacted evidence is pretty damning. 19 and 16? Seems to me like he's a Full Blown PeDoPhiLe!!!! I mean this is obviously a binary conundrum. 1 or 0. You're either a pedo or you're not and this is clearly a yes. Think of the victims. Everyone please call the FBI asap! Don't wait up!It would be nice if the tf2 community could keep logically consistent and seeing as they've already destroyed another person's life over a similar scenario, I don't know why we'd start giving out free passes.

This situation and the Nursey/broking situation are completely different, and I would like to say that midas should in no way be grouped in with those two. I agree that child grooming and partaking in (especially unwanted) sexual activity with minors is just sick and the people who participate in this should be banned.

dbk16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillax

It might be weird, but it is legal. Romeo and Juliet laws exist and would protect them if they did anything. From what has been posted here, it seems like nothing has happened.

I have known midas for a long time and am good friends with him, so I might be biased in my posting. However, I know that he would never have some sort of sick child fetish or partake in child grooming, and I personally think he's a good guy with good intentions, but just made the mistake of doing questionable things.

EDIT:

Reflecto[2:58 AM]
Midas:
i know
i know she has a lot of trust issues
shes definitely a lot more stable than she was before
and i wanted to hold off until she was at least 17 to tell anyone, since thats the legal age in my state

He clearly knows it's illegal wherever he lives.

It's illegal to engage in sexual behavior in his state (and actually, if they did something when she was 16 and he was 19, it would be fine under the law due to Romeo and Juliet laws), and I think that if he had told people he was in a relationship, people would assume that he is also doing this.

[quote=Reflecto]I won't share the chatlog unless you are comfortable with that. But this part needs to be addressed[/quote]
Advancement does not need to be of a sexual nature in a relationship. I know that is what is implied, but I am inclined to believe that my good friend of over 4 years is indeed, a good person (and I know him to be a good person as well). In addition, considering that the girl in question is stating that nothing sexual was done, I am leaning towards this inclination. However, I suppose nothing is set in stone until someone directly involved makes a statement.

[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=JaguarFiend]Idk man this redacted evidence is pretty damning. 19 and 16? Seems to me like he's a Full Blown PeDoPhiLe!!!! I mean this is obviously a binary conundrum. 1 or 0. You're either a pedo or you're not and this is clearly a yes. Think of the victims. Everyone please call the FBI asap! Don't wait up![/quote]
It would be nice if the tf2 community could keep logically consistent and seeing as they've already destroyed another person's life over a similar scenario, I don't know why we'd start giving out free passes.[/quote]
This situation and the Nursey/broking situation are completely different, and I would like to say that midas should in no way be grouped in with those two. I agree that child grooming and partaking in (especially unwanted) sexual activity with minors is just sick and the people who participate in this should be banned.

[quote=dbk]16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillax[/quote]
It might be weird, but it is legal. Romeo and Juliet laws exist and would protect them if they did anything. From what has been posted here, it seems like nothing has happened.

I have known midas for a long time and am good friends with him, so I might be biased in my posting. However, I know that he would never have some sort of sick child fetish or partake in child grooming, and I personally think he's a good guy with good intentions, but just made the mistake of doing questionable things.

EDIT:
[quote=Reflecto][2:58 AM]
Midas:
i know
i know she has a lot of trust issues
shes definitely a lot more stable than she was before
and i wanted to hold off until she was at least 17 to tell anyone, since thats the legal age in my state

He clearly knows it's illegal wherever he lives.[/quote]
It's illegal to [b]engage in sexual behavior[/b] in his state (and actually, if they did something when she was 16 and he was 19, it would be fine under the law due to Romeo and Juliet laws), and I think that if he had told people he was in a relationship, people would assume that he is also doing this.
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ekh0Nub_Danishdbk16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillaxThe average age of consent in the world is somewhere around 15, this is just retard NA people who have been indoctrinated into thinking people shouldn't have autonomy over there body until they're 18.
you fucking retard laws are different everywhere
guess what there's no legal drinking age in china u can get wasted at 10! therefore i should be able to drink at 10 in the US and anyone who disagrees is just indoctrinated!
are you actually trying to justify something that is considered pedophilia in the USA by saying its legal other places

I'm saying it's retarded that someone who's already gone through puberty and isn't going to be physically harmed by sex shouldn't be allowed to make there own decisions. 18 is just a random arbitrary age, your brain is not fully developed and for a lot of people neither is there body. I would think the USA which tots itself as the most free country on earth, wouldn't take away people's right without just cause.

[quote=ekh0][quote=Nub_Danish][quote=dbk]16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillax[/quote]
The average age of consent in the world is somewhere around 15, this is just retard NA people who have been indoctrinated into thinking people shouldn't have autonomy over there body until they're 18.[/quote]

you fucking retard laws are different everywhere
guess what there's no legal drinking age in china u can get wasted at 10! therefore i should be able to drink at 10 in the US and anyone who disagrees is just indoctrinated!
are you actually trying to justify something that is considered pedophilia in the USA by saying its legal other places[/quote]
I'm saying it's retarded that someone who's already gone through puberty and isn't going to be physically harmed by sex shouldn't be allowed to make there own decisions. 18 is just a random arbitrary age, your brain is not fully developed and for a lot of people neither is there body. I would think the USA which tots itself as the most free country on earth, wouldn't take away people's right without just cause.
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ReflectocharisBoth Kaz and Midas were in a consensual relationship Minors can't consent. that's the entire point

minors cant consent to sex you are right. not sure 'e-dating' (whatever the fuck that means anymore) uwuing and linking hearts on profile would ever be worth any call to the police.

[quote=Reflecto][quote=charis]Both Kaz and Midas were in a consensual relationship[/quote] Minors can't consent. that's the entire point[/quote]
minors cant consent to sex you are right. not sure 'e-dating' (whatever the fuck that means anymore) uwuing and linking hearts on profile would ever be worth any call to the police.
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Nub_Danish18 is just a random arbitrary age, your brain is not fully developed and for a lot of people neither is there body..

So you want a higher age of consent?

charisminors cant consent to sex you are right. not sure 'e-dating' (whatever the fuck that means anymore) uwuing and linking hearts on profile would ever be worth any call to the police.

Isn't that what grooming is?

[quote=Nub_Danish]
18 is just a random arbitrary age, your brain is not fully developed and for a lot of people neither is there body..[/quote]
So you want a higher age of consent?

[quote=charis]
minors cant consent to sex you are right. not sure 'e-dating' (whatever the fuck that means anymore) uwuing and linking hearts on profile would ever be worth any call to the police.[/quote]
Isn't that what grooming is?
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no

no
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#20
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charisReflectocharisBoth Kaz and Midas were in a consensual relationship Minors can't consent. that's the entire pointminors cant consent to sex you are right. not sure 'e-dating' (whatever the fuck that means anymore) uwuing and linking hearts on profile would ever be worth any call to the police.

That's why I'm asking for clarification. He said himself their relationship was sexual. I would like to know wtf he meant by that. I'm not accusing him of anything. All I want is clarification as to what the fuck that meant.

Edit: This is actually keeping me from sleeping. I think i'm just trying to justify this anyway I can in my head because Midas was a friend. But there's no context in which a self admitted sexual relationship with a minor could ever be perceived as ok. I don't think there's any explaining that could justify this. I also don't think anything else is going to come out of this thread. I wanted kaz to explain but after think about it if she was already lying about the relationship being sexual in her op and midas admitted it was then I don't see how I'd be able to trust anything she says when it seems like she's going to lie to protect him

[quote=charis][quote=Reflecto][quote=charis]Both Kaz and Midas were in a consensual relationship[/quote] Minors can't consent. that's the entire point[/quote]
minors cant consent to sex you are right. not sure 'e-dating' (whatever the fuck that means anymore) uwuing and linking hearts on profile would ever be worth any call to the police.[/quote]
That's why I'm asking for clarification. He said himself their relationship was sexual. I would like to know wtf he meant by that. I'm not accusing him of anything. All I want is clarification as to what the fuck that meant.

Edit: This is actually keeping me from sleeping. I think i'm just trying to justify this anyway I can in my head because Midas was a friend. But there's no context in which a self admitted sexual relationship with a minor could ever be perceived as ok. I don't think there's any explaining that could justify this. I also don't think anything else is going to come out of this thread. I wanted kaz to explain but after think about it if she was already lying about the relationship being sexual in her op and midas admitted it was then I don't see how I'd be able to trust anything she says when it seems like she's going to lie to protect him
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#21
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e dating isn't real

e dating isn't real
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Nub_Danishekh0Nub_Danishdbk16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillaxThe average age of consent in the world is somewhere around 15, this is just retard NA people who have been indoctrinated into thinking people shouldn't have autonomy over there body until they're 18.
you fucking retard laws are different everywhere
guess what there's no legal drinking age in china u can get wasted at 10! therefore i should be able to drink at 10 in the US and anyone who disagrees is just indoctrinated!
are you actually trying to justify something that is considered pedophilia in the USA by saying its legal other places
I'm saying it's retarded that someone who's already gone through puberty and isn't going to be physically harmed by sex shouldn't be allowed to make there own decisions. 18 is just a random arbitrary age, your brain is not fully developed and for a lot of people neither is there body. I would think the USA which tots itself as the most free country on earth, wouldn't take away people's right without just cause.

Obviously it's an arbitrary age, but there has to be some sort of age of consent. And preventing 13 year old girls from being sexually involved with 20+ year olds isn't intended saying people "shouldn't have autonomy over their body" it's designed to stop other manipulative people from taking advantage of people. If preventing manipulative, intelligent people from taking advantage of younger and certainly in some cases vulnerable people isn't a 'just cause' I have no idea what is.

[quote=Nub_Danish][quote=ekh0][quote=Nub_Danish][quote=dbk]16 and 19 is legal in most scenarios, not saying i think its a good idea in any way, but maybe chillax[/quote]
The average age of consent in the world is somewhere around 15, this is just retard NA people who have been indoctrinated into thinking people shouldn't have autonomy over there body until they're 18.[/quote]

you fucking retard laws are different everywhere
guess what there's no legal drinking age in china u can get wasted at 10! therefore i should be able to drink at 10 in the US and anyone who disagrees is just indoctrinated!
are you actually trying to justify something that is considered pedophilia in the USA by saying its legal other places[/quote]
I'm saying it's retarded that someone who's already gone through puberty and isn't going to be physically harmed by sex shouldn't be allowed to make there own decisions. 18 is just a random arbitrary age, your brain is not fully developed and for a lot of people neither is there body. I would think the USA which tots itself as the most free country on earth, wouldn't take away people's right without just cause.[/quote]
Obviously it's an arbitrary age, but there has to be some sort of age of consent. And preventing 13 year old girls from being sexually involved with 20+ year olds isn't intended saying people "shouldn't have autonomy over their body" it's designed to stop other manipulative people from taking advantage of people. If preventing manipulative, intelligent people from taking advantage of younger and certainly in some cases vulnerable people isn't a 'just cause' I have no idea what is.
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oops

oops
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sciriosObviously it's an arbitrary age, but there has to be some sort of age of consent. And preventing 13 year old girls from being sexually involved with 20+ year olds isn't intended saying people "shouldn't have autonomy over their body" it's designed to stop other manipulative people from taking advantage of people.

It's not about intend it's about effect. If you think you turn a certain age and relationships suddenly stop being manipulative you're painfully naive. I'm not trying to advocate or defend relationships between young minors 15-17 with people who have a large age difference.

I do want to add here that I largely agree with what Jaguer said, equating the acts of the people who have been discussed here with pedophilia of prepubescent kids are not the same, though there actions are obviously bad.

[quote=scirios]Obviously it's an arbitrary age, but there has to be some sort of age of consent. And preventing 13 year old girls from being sexually involved with 20+ year olds isn't intended saying people "shouldn't have autonomy over their body" it's designed to stop other manipulative people from taking advantage of people.[/quote]
It's not about intend it's about effect. If you think you turn a certain age and relationships suddenly stop being manipulative you're painfully naive. I'm not trying to advocate or defend relationships between young minors 15-17 with people who have a large age difference.

I do want to add here that I largely agree with what Jaguer said, equating the acts of the people who have been discussed here with pedophilia of prepubescent kids are not the same, though there actions are obviously bad.
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#26
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man ur just a hoot scream

man ur just a hoot scream
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Screamhttps://i.imgur.com/bc2oLKK.jpg

b4nny cannot be cancelled, he exists far beyond the bounds of our physical realm

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b4nny cannot be cancelled, he exists far beyond the bounds of our physical realm
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honestly any adult with a highschool age person is pretty yikes to me

but judging by the chat logs theres a lot going on here beyond just an age gap

honestly any adult with a highschool age person is pretty yikes to me

but judging by the chat logs theres a lot going on here beyond just an age gap
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I just hope he stops being a pedophile when she turns 18

I just hope he stops being a pedophile when she turns 18
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Reading this thread made me realize that a large portion of the tf2 community have spent their highschool experience stuffed in a locker. Since when is 19/16 considered creepy, lmfao. You don't magically turn into a middle aged man with a moustache and male pattern baldness the day you hit 18. You're literally turning this shit into a witch hunt. Shit, I've got no stakes in this situation, I don't know anyone in the thread but just reading this, you guys are being beyond ridiculous.

What's next, 18yo dating a 16yo? Better call the fucking FBI

Reflecto dude, I read what you said in the nursery thread and I'm genuinely sorry you were abused as a kid, I really am. No one needs to go through shit like that. But man, stop looking for a monster in every shadow. Not everyone is a pedophile, not everyone is an abuser, and 18 isn't some magical line that turns you directly from a toddler into a 50 year old. 19 year olds have been dating 16/17 year olds irl everywhere and every when and literally no one sees it as weird.

It's admirable that you guys are trying to oust all the pedophiles from the comp community, just please stick to the actual pedophiles and not some dude and a girl in a relationship that no one would bat an eye at IRL

Reading this thread made me realize that a large portion of the tf2 community have spent their highschool experience stuffed in a locker. Since when is 19/16 considered creepy, lmfao. You don't magically turn into a middle aged man with a moustache and male pattern baldness the day you hit 18. You're literally turning this shit into a witch hunt. Shit, I've got no stakes in this situation, I don't know anyone in the thread but just reading this, you guys are being beyond ridiculous.

What's next, 18yo dating a 16yo? Better call the fucking FBI

Reflecto dude, I read what you said in the nursery thread and I'm genuinely sorry you were abused as a kid, I really am. No one needs to go through shit like that. But man, stop looking for a monster in every shadow. Not everyone is a pedophile, not everyone is an abuser, and 18 isn't some magical line that turns you directly from a toddler into a 50 year old. 19 year olds have been dating 16/17 year olds irl everywhere and every when and literally no one sees it as weird.

It's admirable that you guys are trying to oust all the pedophiles from the comp community, just please stick to the actual pedophiles and not some dude and a girl in a relationship that no one would bat an eye at IRL
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