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ESEA to drop tf2 after season 31???
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#91
25 Frags +

We all play ESL now. This could actually end up being good for TF2.

We all play ESL now. This could actually end up being good for TF2.
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#92
Spaceship Servers
-18 Frags +

paging Dr. Sidular...

only tfcl can save us now :pray:

paging Dr. Sidular...

only tfcl can save us now :pray:
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#93
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https://i.gyazo.com/dccbff898e5334bdfed24952ba9ec863.png

[img]https://i.gyazo.com/dccbff898e5334bdfed24952ba9ec863.png[/img]
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#94
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what makes you think a new league will alleviate the problems that plagued the ESEA league for so long? if the most popular competitive gaming platform can't keep TF2 alive, i doubt much else will

what makes you think a new league will alleviate the problems that plagued the ESEA league for so long? if the most popular competitive gaming platform can't keep TF2 alive, i doubt much else will
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#95
RGL.gg
28 Frags +

A big reason we never considered a traditional sixes tf2 league was that there was no reason for it. ESEA had the paid side, UGC had the free side. With the collapse of ESEA, it's definitely something that we're strongly considering.

Just because I don't care for sixes myself, doesn't mean we can't have someone run it who does. Honestly, I'm pretty indifferent on HL nowadays, and so that's a league I don't run. It's mostly run with a passionate staff on its own and does exceptionally well for itself. I've already been contacted by some very eager players who have already tossed their hat into the ring. Definitely keep your eye out for us in this coming fall.

A big reason we never considered a traditional sixes tf2 league was that there was no reason for it. ESEA had the paid side, UGC had the free side. With the collapse of ESEA, it's definitely something that we're strongly considering.

Just because I don't care for sixes myself, doesn't mean we can't have someone run it who does. Honestly, I'm pretty indifferent on HL nowadays, and so that's a league I don't run. It's mostly run with a passionate staff on its own and does exceptionally well for itself. I've already been contacted by some very eager players who have already tossed their hat into the ring. Definitely keep your eye out for us in this coming fall.
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#96
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damn, the end of an era

damn, the end of an era
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#97
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Seinfeldwhat makes you think a new league will alleviate the problems that plagued the ESEA league for so long? if the most popular competitive gaming platform can't keep TF2 alive, i doubt much else will

I have no statistics to prove it but I’d actually be surprised if ESL was smaller than ESEA, going off all the cs ive been watching and most of it being ESL, you rarely see stuff for esea cs unless it’s MDL or advanced league

[quote=Seinfeld]what makes you think a new league will alleviate the problems that plagued the ESEA league for so long? if the most popular competitive gaming platform can't keep TF2 alive, i doubt much else will[/quote]
I have no statistics to prove it but I’d actually be surprised if ESL was smaller than ESEA, going off all the cs ive been watching and most of it being ESL, you rarely see stuff for esea cs unless it’s MDL or advanced league
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#98
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I TRIED TO WARN YOU BUT YOU WOULDN'T LISTEN

https://i.imgur.com/fz9Yf2p.jpg

ETF2L PLEASE SAVE US WITH A NATF2L

I TRIED TO WARN YOU BUT YOU WOULDN'T LISTEN

https://i.imgur.com/fz9Yf2p.jpg

ETF2L PLEASE SAVE US WITH A NATF2L
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#99
69 Frags +
Mitch_Hi all, ESL here.

We're aware that this has occurred, there was no communication about it between the two parties but we will anticipate to provide North Americans a service after ESEA Season 31.

Please make sure to watch on TFTV for upcoming announcements.

If this happens then you're literally doing gods work.

If not, then whether something else rises out of the ashes or we are left as relics of the game's past, in the end it was a great fucking run.

[quote=Mitch_]Hi all, ESL here.

We're aware that this has occurred, there was no communication about it between the two parties but we will [b]anticipate to provide[/b] North Americans a service after ESEA Season 31.

Please make sure to watch on TFTV for upcoming announcements.[/quote]

If this happens then you're literally doing gods work.

If not, then whether something else rises out of the ashes or we are left as relics of the game's past, in the end it was a great fucking run.
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#100
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Seinfeldwhat makes you think a new league will alleviate the problems that plagued the ESEA league for so long? if the most popular competitive gaming platform can't keep TF2 alive, i doubt much else will

More people who give a fuck
As helpful as tri (Killing in the past as well) and other select admins have been, the fact is theres only ever been less than one handful of people who worked for ESEA that gave a fuck about TF2.

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[quote=Seinfeld]what makes you think a new league will alleviate the problems that plagued the ESEA league for so long? if the most popular competitive gaming platform can't keep TF2 alive, i doubt much else will[/quote]
More people who give a fuck
As helpful as tri (Killing in the past as well) and other select admins have been, the fact is theres only ever been less than one handful of people who worked for ESEA that gave a fuck about TF2.
[spoiler]claiming the #100th post in honor of corn100[/spoiler]
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#101
23 Frags +

we are never getting the classic mixup reform or a blaze stream at this rate.

we are never getting the classic mixup reform or a blaze stream at this rate.
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#102
80 Frags +

corsa will forever be known as the best player to never win invite

corsa will forever be known as the best player to never win invite
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#103
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sniffcorsa will forever be known as the best player to never win invite

He took a deal with the devil to always have 5 ping but mever win Invite.

[quote=sniff]corsa will forever be known as the best player to never win invite[/quote]

He took a deal with the devil to always have 5 ping but mever win Invite.
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#104
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Seinfeldwhat makes you think a new league will alleviate the problems that plagued the ESEA league for so long? if the most popular competitive gaming platform can't keep TF2 alive, i doubt much else will

most people don't play this game for the services ESEA gives us, anticheat literally does not function, the servers are bad, long history of bad DDOS protection, and I can't imagine very many players at all really play for the prize money. Lan mattered more, but we lost that a long time ago. ESEA is a business, and their goal is to make money. If they believe that TF2 isn't making them money, which they apparently did, they'll drop the game, while a community driven league just does this for their love of the game.

[quote=Seinfeld]what makes you think a new league will alleviate the problems that plagued the ESEA league for so long? if the most popular competitive gaming platform can't keep TF2 alive, i doubt much else will[/quote]
most people don't play this game for the services ESEA gives us, anticheat literally does not function, the servers are bad, long history of bad DDOS protection, and I can't imagine very many players at all [i]really[/i] play for the prize money. Lan mattered more, but we lost that a long time ago. ESEA is a business, and their goal is to make money. If they believe that TF2 isn't making them money, which they apparently did, they'll drop the game, while a community driven league just does this for their love of the game.
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#105
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeumyOzKqgI

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeumyOzKqgI[/youtube]
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#106
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Real sadboy hours

Real sadboy hours
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#107
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Spadesclaiming the #100th post in honor of corn100

the corn100 investing in invite futures headline did not age well.

[quote=Spades]claiming the #100th post in honor of corn100[/quote]
the corn100 investing in invite futures headline did not age well.
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#108
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#109
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FactsMachinesniffcorsa will forever be known as the best player to never win invite
He took a deal with the devil to always have 5 ping but mever win Invite.

if only b4nny could do the same

[quote=FactsMachine][quote=sniff]corsa will forever be known as the best player to never win invite[/quote]

He took a deal with the devil to always have 5 ping but mever win Invite.[/quote]

if only b4nny could do the same
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#110
51 Frags +

Me, seymour, and youmustmike are LFT

Me, seymour, and youmustmike are LFT
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#111
11 Frags +

what will we do without the industry leading anti cheat client

what will we do without the industry leading anti cheat client
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#112
-31 Frags +

Can we not do ESL? It seems like going to another payed league is just kicking the can down the road. I feel like we need a permanent solution in the form of a comunity league. Our best bet would be to piggyback on ETF2L (NATF2L) as part of a greater International TF2L.

Can we not do ESL? It seems like going to another payed league is just kicking the can down the road. I feel like we need a permanent solution in the form of a comunity league. Our best bet would be to piggyback on ETF2L (NATF2L) as part of a greater International TF2L.
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#113
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https://i.redd.it/cjltjmh1zlp01.png

[img]https://i.redd.it/cjltjmh1zlp01.png[/img]
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#114
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF-vhvVVaKg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF-vhvVVaKg
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#115
84 Frags +
ScrewballCan we not do ESL? It seems like going to another payed league is just kicking the can down the road. I feel like we need a permanent solution in the form of a comunity league. Our best bet would be to piggyback on ETF2L (NATF2L) as part of a greater International TF2L.

why are you assuming this is paid? We haven't even announced our plans.

Edit: I won't lie though it's likely on the cards if we want a prize pool. But our requirements are better than ESEA's was.

[quote=Screwball]Can we not do ESL? It seems like going to another payed league is just kicking the can down the road. I feel like we need a permanent solution in the form of a comunity league. Our best bet would be to piggyback on ETF2L (NATF2L) as part of a greater International TF2L.[/quote]
why are you assuming this is paid? We haven't even announced our plans.

Edit: I won't lie though it's likely on the cards if we want a prize pool. But our requirements are better than ESEA's was.
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#116
50 Frags +

Sorry guys this is my fault. I cancelled my premium subscription that I realized I was still paying for just before this was announced. My bad.

Sorry guys this is my fault. I cancelled my premium subscription that I realized I was still paying for just before this was announced. My bad.
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#117
0 Frags +

idk if i'll ever wanna play on a team again but dang if this news didn't make me sad i love tf2

idk if i'll ever wanna play on a team again but dang if this news didn't make me sad i love tf2
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#118
-22 Frags +
Mitch_ScrewballCan we not do ESL? It seems like going to another payed league is just kicking the can down the road. I feel like we need a permanent solution in the form of a comunity league. Our best bet would be to piggyback on ETF2L (NATF2L) as part of a greater International TF2L.why are you assuming this is paid? We haven't even announced our plans.

Carry on then.

https://i.imgur.com/kfUXm8e.jpg

[quote=Mitch_][quote=Screwball]Can we not do ESL? It seems like going to another payed league is just kicking the can down the road. I feel like we need a permanent solution in the form of a comunity league. Our best bet would be to piggyback on ETF2L (NATF2L) as part of a greater International TF2L.[/quote]
why are you assuming this is paid? We haven't even announced our plans.[/quote]
Carry on then.

https://i.imgur.com/kfUXm8e.jpg
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#119
-2 Frags +

give us some info @Mitch_ im curious

give us some info @Mitch_ im curious
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#120
3 Frags +

ESEA being gone will definitely hurt the tf2 community, but there are leagues out there with ideas and I hope players can find a new home.

ESEA being gone will definitely hurt the tf2 community, but there are leagues out there with ideas and I hope players can find a new home.
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