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Is TF2 the Dark Souls of competitive FPS games?
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Or does Quake deserve that spot?

EDIT: Meme'd poorly, by real question was is either Quake or TF2 harder and challenging in mechanical viewpoint,

Or does Quake deserve that spot?

EDIT: Meme'd poorly, by real question was is either Quake or TF2 harder and challenging in mechanical viewpoint,
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no

no
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what does that even mean

what does that even mean
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Can't compare

Can't compare
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yttriumwhat does that even mean

Which one do you think is more challenging and hard?
"Game x is the Dark Souls of this genre" is a meme and is basically used as synonym for "hard" and challenging.

[quote=yttrium]what does that even mean[/quote]

Which one do you think is more challenging and hard?
"Game x is the Dark Souls of this genre" is a meme and is basically used as synonym for "hard" and challenging.
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No. Competitive is the Dark Souls of multiplayer gaming. If it wasn't hard, everyone would be at the top. Once you get to a certain point, no competitive title is more difficult than any other.

No. Competitive is the Dark Souls of multiplayer gaming. If it wasn't hard, everyone would be at the top. Once you get to a certain point, no competitive title is more difficult than any other.
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Menachem Once you get to a certain point, no competitive title is "more difficult" than any other.

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[quote=Menachem] Once you get to a certain point, no competitive title is "more difficult" than any other.[/quote]
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MenachemNo. Competitive is the Dark Souls of multiplayer gaming. If it wasn't hard, everyone would be at the top. Once you get to a certain point, no competitive title is "more difficult" than any other.

Good point, tho I'd like to know is either Quake or TF2 harder in mechanical viewpoint.

[quote=Menachem]No. Competitive is the Dark Souls of multiplayer gaming. If it wasn't hard, everyone would be at the top. Once you get to a certain point, no competitive title is "more difficult" than any other.[/quote]

Good point, tho I'd like to know is either Quake or TF2 harder in mechanical viewpoint.
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quake

quake
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quake is better than tf2.... tf2 itself derives a lot of its design from quake.

the dark souls comparison is also ass because dark souls is overblown af and the series doesnt do much other than arbitrary refinement and watering down of what was originally laid out in demons souls and to a lesser extent dark souls 1

quake is better than tf2.... tf2 itself derives a lot of its design from quake.


the dark souls comparison is also ass because dark souls is overblown af and the series doesnt do much other than arbitrary refinement and watering down of what was originally laid out in demons souls and to a lesser extent dark souls 1
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ya i mean quake has pretty similar movement options as tf2 except its faster and bhopping works so

ya i mean quake has pretty similar movement options as tf2 except its faster and bhopping works so
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In terms of game design, I'd say the real defining feature of Dark Souls is consequences. When you've plowed through a huge chunk of the game and have a ton of souls, but you're super low on estus and don't know if you're about to fight a boss or not... choosing to go back and level up or try to wing it is super impactful the way few other games are.

PUBG

In terms of game design, I'd say the real defining feature of Dark Souls is consequences. When you've plowed through a huge chunk of the game and have a ton of souls, but you're super low on estus and don't know if you're about to fight a boss or not... choosing to go back and level up or try to wing it is super impactful the way few other games are.

PUBG
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All_Over_RSthe dark souls comparison is also ass because dark souls is overblown af and the series doesnt do much other than arbitrary refinement and watering down of what was originally laid out in demons souls and to a lesser extent dark souls 1

The comparision is a meme anyway, which was spawned from game journalists comparing games like Crash Bandicoot to Dark Souls purely because of its challenging gameplay.

[quote=All_Over_RS]
the dark souls comparison is also ass because dark souls is overblown af and the series doesnt do much other than arbitrary refinement and watering down of what was originally laid out in demons souls and to a lesser extent dark souls 1[/quote]

The comparision is a meme anyway, which was spawned from game journalists comparing games like Crash Bandicoot to Dark Souls purely because of its challenging gameplay.
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Hermann_von_SalsaAll_Over_RSthe dark souls comparison is also ass because dark souls is overblown af and the series doesnt do much other than arbitrary refinement and watering down of what was originally laid out in demons souls and to a lesser extent dark souls 1
The comparision is a meme anyway, which was spawned from game journalists comparing games like Crash Bandicoot to Dark Souls purely because of its challenging gameplay.

i know, but even as a meme it still irritates me

[quote=Hermann_von_Salsa][quote=All_Over_RS]
the dark souls comparison is also ass because dark souls is overblown af and the series doesnt do much other than arbitrary refinement and watering down of what was originally laid out in demons souls and to a lesser extent dark souls 1[/quote]

The comparision is a meme anyway, which was spawned from game journalists comparing games like Crash Bandicoot to Dark Souls purely because of its challenging gameplay.[/quote]

i know, but even as a meme it still irritates me
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All_Over_RSi know, but even as a meme it still irritates me

'Aight then, I understand

[quote=All_Over_RS]
i know, but even as a meme it still irritates me[/quote]

'Aight then, I understand
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I was genuieinly curious about the topic, but wanted to give it a twist and see how many people would understand the reference, but I caused nothing but confusion :D

I was genuieinly curious about the topic, but wanted to give it a twist and see how many people would understand the reference, but I caused nothing but confusion :D
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Is binding of isaac the csgo of baking?
I never get these "is x the y of z" questions

Is binding of isaac the csgo of baking?
I never get these "is x the y of z" questions
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MenachemOnce you get to a certain point, no competitive title is more difficult than any other.

overwatch
hearthstone
compared to
cs
quake

[quote=Menachem]Once you get to a certain point, no competitive title is more difficult than any other.[/quote]
overwatch
hearthstone
compared to
cs
quake
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Hermann_von_SalsaI was genuieinly curious about the topic, but wanted to give it a twist and see how many people would understand the reference, but I caused nothing but confusion :D

you can't get away with this

[quote=Hermann_von_Salsa]I was genuieinly curious about the topic, but wanted to give it a twist and see how many people would understand the reference, but I caused nothing but confusion :D[/quote]

you can't get away with this
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saying things like "this videogame is the darksouls of X" is what makes me cringe, like if darksouls was even hard, I'm no pro gamer but I've played far harder games, overrated as shit but not as overrated as cuphead

in other words just dont

saying things like "this videogame is the darksouls of X" is what makes me cringe, like if darksouls was even hard, I'm no pro gamer but I've played far harder games, overrated as shit but not as overrated as cuphead

in other words just dont
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reakoMenachemOnce you get to a certain point, no competitive title is more difficult than any other.overwatch
hearthstone
compared to
cs
quake

they require different skillsets, but by definition theyre equal in straight up difficulty. You're not playing against the game, you're playing other players, and compared to the other people playing you're not any more likely to get better at one game faster than another. In Overwatch there's an argument to be made about a lower mechanical skill ceiling, but generally the same people have been playing at the highest level for most of the game's lifespan. There aren't really a lot of newbies that I know of that start playing the game and then can be considered one of the best in a short timeframe.

As for hearthstone, isn't it a trading card game and therefore requires luck of the draw? definitely not a great example of a competitive game.

[quote=reako][quote=Menachem]Once you get to a certain point, no competitive title is more difficult than any other.[/quote]
overwatch
hearthstone
compared to
cs
quake[/quote]

they require different skillsets, but by definition theyre equal in straight up difficulty. You're not playing against the game, you're playing other players, and compared to the other people playing you're not any more likely to get better at one game faster than another. In Overwatch there's an argument to be made about a lower mechanical skill ceiling, but generally the same people have been playing at the highest level for most of the game's lifespan. There aren't really a lot of newbies that I know of that start playing the game and then can be considered one of the best in a short timeframe.

As for hearthstone, isn't it a trading card game and therefore requires luck of the draw? definitely not a great example of a competitive game.
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http://i.imgur.com/a7yuDhR.jpg

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reakoMenachemOnce you get to a certain point, no competitive title is more difficult than any other.overwatch
hearthstone
compared to
cs
quake

The easiest thing can be infinitely difficult in a competition.

[quote=reako][quote=Menachem]Once you get to a certain point, no competitive title is more difficult than any other.[/quote]
overwatch
hearthstone
compared to
cs
quake[/quote]
The easiest thing can be infinitely difficult in a competition.
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is MGE the Street Fighter of TF2

is MGE the Street Fighter of TF2
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endif and ammonod are the only ones that matter

endif and ammonod are the only ones that matter
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x is the dark souls of x is so cancer, because dark souls is an easy game that just punishes you hard for not knowing it well. So in a way I would say that TF2 is the dark souls of FPS because it doesn't have a proper tutorial and you can get dicked over by stupid things in pubs.

x is the dark souls of x is so cancer, because dark souls is an easy game that just punishes you hard for not knowing it well. So in a way I would say that TF2 is the dark souls of FPS because it doesn't have a proper tutorial and you can get dicked over by stupid things in pubs.
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Scrambledx is the dark souls of x is so cancer, because dark souls is an easy game that just punishes you hard for not knowing it well.

That is true. Singleplayer games are often incomparable to multiplayer games, because AI has patterns

[quote=Scrambled]x is the dark souls of x is so cancer, because dark souls is an easy game that just punishes you hard for not knowing it well. [/quote]

That is true. Singleplayer games are often incomparable to multiplayer games, because AI has patterns
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Is demon souls the bloodborne of dark souls???

Is demon souls the bloodborne of dark souls???
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is Hermann_von_Salsa the pankeyman of our time???

is Hermann_von_Salsa the pankeyman of our time???
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