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ETF2L S27 W7: Arctic Foxes vs. LEGO
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Wednesday, Jul 5th
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3:30 PM EDT
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Default win to LEGO

Almost there now, as we enter our final Week of ETF2L Season 27. Guiding you audibly through tonight will be Hiipfire and Beater whilst the visuals will be provided by Nicell.

Usually the tropes of a Week 7 TF2 cast go like "It doesn't matter really", "Nothing is at stake here", "Teams will be playing for Fun tonight" and "TurboTabs will be casting this game solo". But luckily for you viewers, none of that applies tonight! If you've been doing your homework with regards to the ETF2l table, you know that LEGO's 4th place playoff spot is currently under threat by an unforeseen team, the unanticipated, the unSe7en-perfect-season-er; Team unexpected. With only 1 point separating the team from one another, this match up against Arctic Foxes means everything to them as 6 point tonight will guarantee the playoff spot, instead of it riding on a unexpected vs ANTIC matchup. Whilst it's true that Arctic Foxes don't win anything from tonight's matchup against LEGO... perhaps they follow the philosophy of "I only win, when everyone else loses", but we'll have to wait and see.

written by TurboTabs
MAP 1
cp_granary_pro_b10
MAP 2
cp_process_final
Arctic Foxes ? LEGO 0 - 0
Players CL DPM DMG K A D HR% HR CPC MP UC UCD
Raptor.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
alle.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
dd5f.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Silentes.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Maros.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Thaigrr.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Players CL DPM DMG K A D HR% HR CPC MP UC UCD
CondoM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Dr. Phil 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
dmoule 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Josh 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
zen 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
sorex 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Arctic Foxes ? LEGO 0 - 0
Players CL DPM DMG K A D HR% HR CPC MP UC UCD
Raptor.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
alle.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
dd5f.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Silentes.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Maros.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Thaigrr.aF 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Players CL DPM DMG K A D HR% HR CPC MP UC UCD
CondoM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Dr. Phil 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
dmoule 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
Josh 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
zen 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
sorex 0 0 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0
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#1
3 Frags +

Go Josh!

Go Josh!
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#2
3 Frags +

Silentes on demo?

https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/vohiyo-profile_image-0d5b081a94d07184-300x300.png

Silentes on demo?

https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/vohiyo-profile_image-0d5b081a94d07184-300x300.png
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#3
6 Frags +

rip unexepcted playoffs dream

rip unexepcted playoffs dream
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#4
9 Frags +

Default win for lego :(

http://etf2l.org/matches/68642/

Default win for lego :(

http://etf2l.org/matches/68642/
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#5
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LstratosHFDefault win for lego :(

http://etf2l.org/matches/68642/

wtf :D

[quote=LstratosHF]Default win for lego :(

http://etf2l.org/matches/68642/[/quote]
wtf :D
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#6
0 Frags +

wtf what happened D:

wtf what happened D:
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#7
0 Frags +

Haha great1 :))

Haha great1 :))
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#8
57 Frags +

absolutely monster tactical decision to allow lego into the playoffs instead of unexpected, well played to the man with the big brain! (RAPTOR)

absolutely monster tactical decision to allow lego into the playoffs instead of unexpected, well played to the man with the big brain! (RAPTOR)
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#9
-16 Frags +

i dont think af have been scrimming lately either (could be wrong). maybe since they cant go to lan, team ded?

i dont think af have been scrimming lately either (could be wrong). maybe since they cant go to lan, team ded?
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#10
34 Frags +

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/156316529?t=23m51s

that's pretty disgusting

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/156316529?t=23m51s

that's pretty disgusting
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#11
14 Frags +

thats so scummy...

thats so scummy...
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#12
3 Frags +

tbh i think they probs would have had to use multiple mercs and offclass anyway so default loss can be seen as resonable.

tbh i think they probs would have had to use multiple mercs and offclass anyway so default loss can be seen as resonable.
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#13
-7 Frags +

They didnt have the players to play this anyway right? Yeah from that vod it does look like a pretty shitty situation but unless theres clear evidence that shows that tonight was all a setup how do you really prove anything? How would you even punish this?

To the people calling me out about whats said on the vod, come on now stop being fucking dumb. I say its a smart idea for them to do what Thai said because it is in the grand scheme of things. Just think about it for a second. It prevents a team who seems to be doing well against arctic foxes, based on pcw results against them, from facing them in the playoffs. I do also say that its the biggest arsehole thing to do as it is an arsehole thing to do. Its just a fucking dumb conversation where I joke about the situation.
Like I dont even know why I'm responding it doesnt even affect my team at all we are 100% not going to make playoffs regardless of this situation. My team might even win an official for once this week as I wont be here to play in it.

They didnt have the players to play this anyway right? Yeah from that vod it does look like a pretty shitty situation but unless theres clear evidence that shows that tonight was all a setup how do you really prove anything? How would you even punish this?

To the people calling me out about whats said on the vod, come on now stop being fucking dumb. I say its a smart idea for them to do what Thai said because it is in the grand scheme of things. Just think about it for a second. It prevents a team who seems to be doing well against arctic foxes, based on pcw results against them, from facing them in the playoffs. I do also say that its the biggest arsehole thing to do as it is an arsehole thing to do. Its just a fucking dumb conversation where I joke about the situation.
Like I dont even know why I'm responding it doesnt even affect my team at all we are 100% not going to make playoffs regardless of this situation. My team might even win an official for once this week as I wont be here to play in it.
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#14
5 Frags +

Raptor overslept the games (again), adam s pc died, and feeling didnt feel like playing pocket so he played medic and we got our sub to play pocket. We got rolled in scrim, got tilted and so we decided to give them default, since there was no point in playing this anyway(for us)

Raptor overslept the games (again), adam s pc died, and feeling didnt feel like playing pocket so he played medic and we got our sub to play pocket. We got rolled in scrim, got tilted and so we decided to give them default, since there was no point in playing this anyway(for us)
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#15
43 Frags +

I love team fortress 2 gaming community you are all very nice people :)
We knew beforehand that af has raptor oversleeping and adams pc died mid scrim, and it would be absolutely understandable for them to not play their offi. But saying that "we dont have to play anyway bcuz we already have secured playoff spot xd" and "lets fuck over a team on purpose" is very mature, good job

I love team fortress 2 gaming community you are all very nice people :)
We knew beforehand that af has raptor oversleeping and adams pc died mid scrim, and it would be absolutely understandable for them to not play their offi. But saying that "we dont have to play anyway bcuz we already have secured playoff spot xd" and "lets fuck over a team on purpose" is very mature, good job
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#16
20 Frags +

In my honest opinion it's just scummy to do.
We worked so hard in this season to improve and prove that we can be able to play in prem even with 4 players with no prem experience. I think we also proved our abilities in the official against Se7en. Then not getting the chance to prove that we can play in playoffs because a team in this league thinks we shouldn't be is just frustrating and upsetting.
It just proves how, on one side, this community can be so awesome but then, on the other side, can be so unfair and selfish.
As I said before, this is a pretty upsetting experience for us. Nonetheless we are still proud of what we achieved so far and we are all looking forward to play at LAN.

In my honest opinion it's just scummy to do.
We worked so hard in this season to improve and prove that we can be able to play in prem even with 4 players with no prem experience. I think we also proved our abilities in the official against Se7en. Then not getting the chance to prove that we can play in playoffs because a team in this league thinks we shouldn't be is just frustrating and upsetting.
It just proves how, on one side, this community can be so awesome but then, on the other side, can be so unfair and selfish.
As I said before, this is a pretty upsetting experience for us. Nonetheless we are still proud of what we achieved so far and we are all looking forward to play at LAN.
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#17
9 Frags +

Its beyond me how people actually think that aF , a team thats almost a 100% dead after the season cares about who is in playoffs. Missing 2 players for an official and having one of your core offclassing does not really make it look like it would have mattered if they played the official aswell. Result most likely would have been the same. (6 points to lego)

Its beyond me how people actually think that aF , a team thats almost a 100% dead after the season cares about who is in playoffs. Missing 2 players for an official and having one of your core offclassing does not really make it look like it would have mattered if they played the official aswell. Result most likely would have been the same. (6 points to lego)
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#18
0 Frags +

but now when they did this, if admins think it was on purpose(which it might be) arctic will have all the players, and lego will be playng without one of their main scouts. so if that happends arctic foxes fucked over lego even more. either way they fuck over 1 team

but now when they did this, if admins think it was on purpose(which it might be) arctic will have all the players, and lego will be playng without one of their main scouts. so if that happends arctic foxes fucked over lego even more. either way they fuck over 1 team
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#19
14 Frags +
smziIts beyond me how people actually think that aF , a team thats almost a 100% dead after the season cares about who is in playoffs. Missing 2 players for an official and having one of your core offclassing does not really make it look like it would have mattered if they played the official aswell. Result most likely would have been the same. (6 points to lego)

Well we can't really be sure about whether they did this on purpose or not but according to the vod where Thaigrr said that he's convincing his team not to play so we won't be able to play in playoffs is kind of suspicous and pretty frustrating from our POV.

[quote=smzi]Its beyond me how people actually think that aF , a team thats almost a 100% dead after the season cares about who is in playoffs. Missing 2 players for an official and having one of your core offclassing does not really make it look like it would have mattered if they played the official aswell. Result most likely would have been the same. (6 points to lego)[/quote]

Well we can't really be sure about whether they did this on purpose or not but according to the vod where Thaigrr said that he's convincing his team not to play so we won't be able to play in playoffs is kind of suspicous and pretty frustrating from our POV.
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#20
15 Frags +
smziIts beyond me how people actually think that aF , a team thats almost a 100% dead after the season cares about who is in playoffs. Missing 2 players for an official and having one of your core offclassing does not really make it look like it would have mattered if they played the official aswell. Result most likely would have been the same. (6 points to lego)

Could be more about a personal grudge than about a team in general

[quote=smzi]Its beyond me how people actually think that aF , a team thats almost a 100% dead after the season cares about who is in playoffs. Missing 2 players for an official and having one of your core offclassing does not really make it look like it would have mattered if they played the official aswell. Result most likely would have been the same. (6 points to lego)[/quote]

Could be more about a personal grudge than about a team in general
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#21
-6 Frags +

well i sincerely hope thaigr was just joking around then

well i sincerely hope thaigr was just joking around then
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#22
20 Frags +
smziwell i sincerely hope thaigr was just joking around then

http://imgur.com/a/y9EVu

[quote=smzi]well i sincerely hope thaigr was just joking around then[/quote]
http://imgur.com/a/y9EVu
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#23
9 Frags +
rocketslaysmziwell i sincerely hope thaigr was just joking around thenhttp://imgur.com/a/y9EVu

I like that Thaigrr is the one wearing the Manchester jersey

[quote=rocketslay][quote=smzi]well i sincerely hope thaigr was just joking around then[/quote]
http://imgur.com/a/y9EVu[/quote]

I like that Thaigrr is the one wearing the Manchester jersey
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#24
14 Frags +

That's some bullshit lmfao. Arctic Foxes Internet Defense Force needs to stop talking. The whole idea behind having to persuade your team to grant someone a default win is clear enough evidence in-of-itself that there was the possibility to still play the game. By further justifying such a snake move to prevent unexpected from reaching playoffs (read: the exact same as throwing the game against LEGO on purpose) is anti-competitive and purposely matchfixing.

1.6 Committing or supporting fraud is strictly forbidden

Committing or supporting the act of fraud is strictly forbidden.

Different types of fraud include (but are not limited to):

– Playing a match to a completely or partially pre-determined result.
– Manipulating screenshots, chatlogs or match results.
– Impersonating players, ETF2L staff or contacts of the league (with malicious intent).
– Non-permitted acquisition of profits (e.g. selling spots on your roster, monetizing ETF2L specific content without our permission etc.).

That's some bullshit lmfao. Arctic Foxes Internet Defense Force needs to stop talking. The whole idea behind having to persuade your team to grant someone a default win is clear enough evidence in-of-itself that there was the possibility to still play the game. By further justifying such a snake move to prevent unexpected from reaching playoffs (read: the exact same as throwing the game against LEGO on purpose) is anti-competitive and purposely matchfixing.


[b]1.6 Committing or supporting fraud is strictly forbidden[/b]

Committing or supporting the act of fraud is strictly forbidden.

Different types of fraud include (but are not limited to):

[b]– Playing a match to a completely or partially pre-determined result.[/b]
– Manipulating screenshots, chatlogs or match results.
– Impersonating players, ETF2L staff or contacts of the league (with malicious intent).
– Non-permitted acquisition of profits (e.g. selling spots on your roster, monetizing ETF2L specific content without our permission etc.).
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#25
9 Frags +
FuxxThat's some bullshit lmfao. Arctic Foxes Internet Defense Force needs to stop talking. The whole idea behind having to persuade your team to grant someone a default win is clear enough evidence in-of-itself that there was the possibility to still play the game. By further justifying such a snake move to prevent unexpected from reaching playoffs (read: the exact same as throwing the game against LEGO on purpose) is anti-competitive and purposely matchfixing.

1.6 Committing or supporting fraud is strictly forbidden

Committing or supporting the act of fraud is strictly forbidden.

Different types of fraud include (but are not limited to):

– Playing a match to a completely or partially pre-determined result.
– Manipulating screenshots, chatlogs or match results.
– Impersonating players, ETF2L staff or contacts of the league (with malicious intent).
– Non-permitted acquisition of profits (e.g. selling spots on your roster, monetizing ETF2L specific content without our permission etc.).

Oh lmao I was looking everywhere for that rule, mystery solved

[quote=Fuxx]That's some bullshit lmfao. Arctic Foxes Internet Defense Force needs to stop talking. The whole idea behind having to persuade your team to grant someone a default win is clear enough evidence in-of-itself that there was the possibility to still play the game. By further justifying such a snake move to prevent unexpected from reaching playoffs (read: the exact same as throwing the game against LEGO on purpose) is anti-competitive and purposely matchfixing.


[b]1.6 Committing or supporting fraud is strictly forbidden[/b]

Committing or supporting the act of fraud is strictly forbidden.

Different types of fraud include (but are not limited to):

[b]– Playing a match to a completely or partially pre-determined result.[/b]
– Manipulating screenshots, chatlogs or match results.
– Impersonating players, ETF2L staff or contacts of the league (with malicious intent).
– Non-permitted acquisition of profits (e.g. selling spots on your roster, monetizing ETF2L specific content without our permission etc.).[/quote]
Oh lmao I was looking everywhere for that rule, mystery solved
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#26
-16 Frags +

sooooo is giving forfeit losses in general illegal? after all the result is completely "predetermined"

sooooo is giving forfeit losses in general illegal? after all the result is completely "predetermined"
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#27
20 Frags +
rocketslaysooooo is giving forfeit losses in general illegal? after all the result is completely "predetermined"

Your stupidity should be illegal

[quote=rocketslay]sooooo is giving forfeit losses in general illegal? after all the result is completely "predetermined"[/quote]
Your stupidity should be illegal
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#28
7 Frags +

Adding to what Maros said here: We discussed that that we're in 2nd or 3rd place at the end of the season either way, so we didn't want to play with the suboptimal roster we had to use in warmup. Personally I was also fed up with Raptor oversleeping for the nth time. So the reasons we gave the default win were tilt and indifference. We were in fact aware of the impact on unexpected's playoff chances but it didn't influence our decision because they wouldn't be in theoretical contention for playoffs without their default win against Lowpander.

Adding to what Maros said [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/764616/etf2l-s27-w7-arctic-foxes-vs-lego]here[/url]: We discussed that that we're in 2nd or 3rd place at the end of the season either way, so we didn't want to play with the suboptimal roster we had to use in warmup. Personally I was also fed up with Raptor oversleeping for the nth time. So the reasons we gave the default win were tilt and indifference. We were in fact aware of the impact on unexpected's playoff chances but it didn't influence our decision because they wouldn't be in theoretical contention for playoffs without their default win against Lowpander.
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#29
17 Frags +

I was actually in a mumble when raptor was talking about giving a default win so unexpected wouldnt be in playoffs. BUT he said that they will play and not give default win. But thats just what I heard in that mumble, they might have changed their mind after that though.

Also even though unexpected is doing pretty well now, they only actually won 1 game. I dont count the default win vs lowpander a win because we all know who would have won that... Lego on the other hand won 3 games, so imo they deserve more to be in playoffs.

Not that it matters who deserved to get in playoffs. If they gave default win on purpose then something should happen because it is against the rules.

I was actually in a mumble when raptor was talking about giving a default win so unexpected wouldnt be in playoffs. BUT he said that they will play and not give default win. But thats just what I heard in that mumble, they might have changed their mind after that though.

Also even though unexpected is doing pretty well now, they only actually won 1 game. I dont count the default win vs lowpander a win because we all know who would have won that... Lego on the other hand won 3 games, so imo they deserve more to be in playoffs.

Not that it matters who deserved to get in playoffs. If they gave default win on purpose then something should happen because it is against the rules.
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#30
-3 Frags +

https://gyazo.com/4f8861b2addb68e8f55abe30e5ec8056
some guy randomly messaged this to me on twitch and told me to put it here lmfao
apparently this was when lego were playing unexpected on viaduct (raptor stream)

https://gyazo.com/4f8861b2addb68e8f55abe30e5ec8056
some guy randomly messaged this to me on twitch and told me to put it here lmfao
apparently this was when lego were playing unexpected on viaduct (raptor stream)
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