wtzspringrollsIMO there are only 3 pre pyro update weps that really need to be reconsidered: natascha, machina, and cow mangler. Banners I was iffy about in the preseason but it didnt look like a problem really in EU, although someone with more experience feel free to correct me.
banners are fine and anyone who says otherwise is a filthy scout main
machina is ok idk why people hate it
its rather polarizing in the svs matchup, obviously not as bad as darwins pre nerf but enough that hl snipers felt that they had to switch to the wep as well (like the dds)
other reasons include lack of neglible downsides (tracers are lol and quickscopes are pretty much as good as noscopes, plus the bonus fact that you might hit a headshot on accident), encouraging lower skill plays through increased bodyshot damage(that one taps scouts unless theyre 100% on the beam, also shits on demos)
also penetration is dumb and ruins my 1 million iq medic bodyblock plays :(