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ETF2L S31 Low GF: boshy+5 vs Vague
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DATE
Wednesday, Nov 28th
TIME
2:00 PM EST
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Boshy + 5 and Vague might be Low in division, but their spirits are most surely high after reaching the Grand Final. Now, the issue with covering lower divisions is that the players and teams are not as known, so in a blatant defiance of journalistic integrity, I asked Lena -tftv contributor and roamer for Vague- for some actually interesting stuff to say :

-Boshy + 5 are coming into this series as favorites, thanks to their victory over Vague in week 2 and the impressive fact that they are yet to drop a map overall.
-While Vague enjoyed a very successful season as well, only losing points to Boshy, they did have some close games, especially in the playoffs. They did manage to take Granary off Boshy in scrims however, so take that as you will.
-Boshy + 5 are apparently enjoying a high level of team coordination, as they don’t have a dedicated maincaller but rather all parts of the combo co-calls
-Finally, should Lena’s team win this game, she would be the most successful low player in existence, having won it twice ! (please help she has a gun to my head)

Want an insider perspective on both teams ? Both leaders were interviewed and their answers are down below due to character limits.

Play-by-Play: eepily | Analysis: DuMmTm | Production: gemm | Match Page | boshy+5 | Vague | Written by Aelkyr
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not completed -____-

not completed -____-
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boshy ctaps his surfs

boshy ctaps his surfs
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go boshy

go boshy
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Go narkkari

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Go narkkari
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Go Phong!

Go Phong!
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boshy will do a wallpogo xD

boshy will do a wallpogo xD
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We start with Meaff, team leader of Boshy + 5.

Can you describe your team ? Who's playing what .. ?
Well, most of us play in the highlander team "kiti s bakenbardami". So we are used to each other and really enjoy playing along. That was the main purpose behind making a 6s team, even though we chose to play not on our mains, we played a lot to get some good result out of all that, along with just enjoying the gameplay. Our class roster is :
prm - our 1st scout that is playing on his main, but didn't have much experience lately because he's been in the army for 1 year
evrbdlvsme - our 2nd scout that is a heavy main almost without 6s experience
Crime - plays roamer and is a demo main, used to be a scout main in his previous 6s seasons
I am an engineer main (don't laugh pls), play pocket but all of my experience didn't get out of open tier borders before
Kantemirovets - our demo that is on his main, but didn't have any experience higher than open tier, so he's being carried (that's a joke)
And our beloved jumper main (Boshy) played in high tier before, so we decided to put him on the medic role
Going into the season, were you expecting to make it to the final ? If not, how far did you expect to go ?
Although this roster looks controversial, we still did expect to get into the top three and tried our best starting from the preseason.
Going into the final, what do you think are your strong points ? In term of playstyle, maps...
I wouldn't like to reveal our strong points just before the game, but I think each of our players is a strong point, let's just say that, haha, although I truly think this way.
And what do you think of the opposing team ?
I think this should be an interesting game, since we went up 2-1 while playing a scrim, a week ago or around that. I'd like to say gl and hf to them, I'm eager to play this match already :)
Any closing words/shout-outs ?
I'd just like to shoutout to my beloved 6s team and non the less beloved "kiti s bakenbardami", я люблю вас, китята ❤.

We start with Meaff, team leader of Boshy + 5.

[b]Can you describe your team ? Who's playing what .. ?
[/b]Well, most of us play in the highlander team "kiti s bakenbardami". So we are used to each other and really enjoy playing along. That was the main purpose behind making a 6s team, even though we chose to play not on our mains, we played a lot to get some good result out of all that, along with just enjoying the gameplay. Our class roster is :
prm - our 1st scout that is playing on his main, but didn't have much experience lately because he's been in the army for 1 year
evrbdlvsme - our 2nd scout that is a heavy main almost without 6s experience
Crime - plays roamer and is a demo main, used to be a scout main in his previous 6s seasons
I am an engineer main (don't laugh pls), play pocket but all of my experience didn't get out of open tier borders before
Kantemirovets - our demo that is on his main, but didn't have any experience higher than open tier, so he's being carried (that's a joke)
And our beloved jumper main (Boshy) played in high tier before, so we decided to put him on the medic role
[b]Going into the season, were you expecting to make it to the final ? If not, how far did you expect to go ?
[/b]Although this roster looks controversial, we still did expect to get into the top three and tried our best starting from the preseason.
[b]Going into the final, what do you think are your strong points ? In term of playstyle, maps...
[/b] I wouldn't like to reveal our strong points just before the game, but I think each of our players is a strong point, let's just say that, haha, although I truly think this way.
[b]And what do you think of the opposing team ?
[/b]I think this should be an interesting game, since we went up 2-1 while playing a scrim, a week ago or around that. I'd like to say gl and hf to them, I'm eager to play this match already :)
[b]Any closing words/shout-outs ?
[/b]I'd just like to shoutout to my beloved 6s team and non the less beloved "kiti s bakenbardami", я люблю вас, китята ❤.
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Moving on, we have oddbar, Vague team leader offering some hopefully not too vague answers

Can you describe your team ? Who's playing what .. ?
mason and phong - scouts, pb med, odd demo, shaggz and lena are sollys
Going into the season, were you expecting to make it to the final ? If not, how far did you expect to go ?
We hoped to go to playoffs, no more.
Going into the final, what do you think are your strong points ? In term of playstyle, maps...
Regarding playstyle and strong points, they are kind of a secret strategy you know :) I can always answer this after the final if you don’t mind.
And what do you think of the opposing team ?
I think it's wrong when mid players play low, but we’ll take them on and are ready for any difficulties. I think soldiers are their strong point, and their scout - "prm" has an insane skill level I think.
Any closing words/shout-outs ?
In general, as part of the Russian community, I want to say that it is very unpleasant for me to see how every season my comrades try to break the rules. If you remember season 30, then most account sharing and ban evasions were from the Russian community, so I want to say that it's time to start playing fairly and working on your skill, the Vague team only stands for fair play. I think it's better to fairly lose than to win unfairly.My personal shoutout for pb for organizing the team in this season.

Moving on, we have oddbar, Vague team leader offering some hopefully not too vague answers

[b]Can you describe your team ? Who's playing what .. ?
[/b]mason and phong - scouts, pb med, odd demo, shaggz and lena are sollys
[b]Going into the season, were you expecting to make it to the final ? If not, how far did you expect to go ?
[/b]We hoped to go to playoffs, no more.
[b]Going into the final, what do you think are your strong points ? In term of playstyle, maps...
[/b]Regarding playstyle and strong points, they are kind of a secret strategy you know :) I can always answer this after the final if you don’t mind.
[b]And what do you think of the opposing team ?
[/b]I think it's wrong when mid players play low, but we’ll take them on and are ready for any difficulties. I think soldiers are their strong point, and their scout - "prm" has an insane skill level I think.
[b]Any closing words/shout-outs ?
[/b]In general, as part of the Russian community, I want to say that it is very unpleasant for me to see how every season my comrades try to break the rules. If you remember season 30, then most account sharing and ban evasions were from the Russian community, so I want to say that it's time to start playing fairly and working on your skill, the Vague team only stands for fair play. I think it's better to fairly lose than to win unfairly.My personal shoutout for pb for organizing the team in this season.
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Yikes

Yikes
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Argh the cringe ;D

Argh the cringe ;D
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Anyone else think it's a bullshit that the boshy team isn't getting punished for sandbagging, they are prem hl players in low. And yet they can do that just because they are offclassing. And people were freaking out about permzilla playing soldier in div2 as a medic main.

Anyone else think it's a bullshit that the boshy team isn't getting punished for sandbagging, they are prem hl players in low. And yet they can do that just because they are offclassing. And people were freaking out about permzilla playing soldier in div2 as a medic main.
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Go phong!

Go phong!
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ez for Boshy

ez for Boshy
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sweep for wallpogo man

sweep for wallpogo man
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DlauckAnyone else think it's a bullshit that the boshy team isn't getting punished for sandbagging, they are prem hl players in low. And yet they can do that just because they are offclassing. And people were freaking out about permzilla playing soldier in div2 as a medic main.

Our team was placed in low when the provisional tiers got published, and yes, that is kinda bullshit, but for what exact reason should WE get punished? If you have any complains, you should adress them to etf2l admins. Also, the only reason we made it to finals is because we are playing like 10-12 scrims per week, desperatly trying to overcome the fact that we all hate each other . Also also, i like how everyone ignores players with mid/high 6's and prem hl experience in Vague roster.

[quote=Dlauck]Anyone else think it's a bullshit that the boshy team isn't getting punished for sandbagging, they are prem hl players in low. And yet they can do that just because they are offclassing. And people were freaking out about permzilla playing soldier in div2 as a medic main.[/quote]
Our team was placed in low when the provisional tiers got published, and yes, that is kinda bullshit, but for what exact reason should WE get punished? If you have any complains, you should adress them to etf2l admins. Also, the only reason we made it to finals is because we are playing like 10-12 scrims per week, desperatly trying to overcome the fact that we all hate each other . Also also, i like how everyone ignores players with mid/high 6's and prem hl experience in Vague roster.
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GO NARKKARI

GO NARKKARI
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Go Lena!

Go Lena!
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QBown_Go Lena!

Blink twice if Lena has a gun to your head as well.

[quote=QBown_]Go Lena![/quote]

Blink twice if Lena has a gun to your head as well.
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evrbdlvsmeOur team was placed in low when the provisional tiers got published, and yes, that is kinda bullshit, but for what exact reason should WE get punished? If you have any complains, you should adress them to etf2l admins. Also, the only reason we made it to finals is because we are playing like 10-12 scrims per week, desperatly trying to overcome the fact that we all hate each other . Also also, i like how everyone ignores players with mid/high 6's and prem hl experience in Vague roster.

Youre good friends, not like the biggest ever but still are friends, you definitely dont hate each other, thats bullshit. These scrims are not your strongest argument either, you just try and have fun, you dont take them very much seriously, you dont push your teams ability to the limits by a long shot. Most of the game you just fuck around, including officials, judging by quite a few VODs i'll tell you that.

Mid/high 6s and prem hl experience? Like whom, Shaggz played Mid tops 3 seasons ago, Lena played Mid tops as a medic, Mason played Mid tops, Phong and Lucian(is a sub anyway) are low, rest of the team were literally Open last season and Nightmare hasnt played a game once.

You wanna talk hl experience after 4 of your mains won div 1 last season? Or 6s where literally 5 of your players been actively playing Mid on and off anywhere from 1 to 5 seasons, all within the same team(with two of them additionally playing in 6s national team). Mason is the only player from main roster that plays hl above Open.

think youre just a little bit full of shit

[quote=evrbdlvsme]Our team was placed in low when the provisional tiers got published, and yes, that is kinda bullshit, but for what exact reason should WE get punished? If you have any complains, you should adress them to etf2l admins. Also, the only reason we made it to finals is because we are playing like 10-12 scrims per week, desperatly trying to overcome the fact that we all hate each other . Also also, i like how everyone ignores players with mid/high 6's and prem hl experience in Vague roster.[/quote]

Youre good friends, not like the biggest ever but still are friends, you definitely dont hate each other, thats bullshit. These scrims are not your strongest argument either, you just try and have fun, you dont take them very much seriously, you dont push your teams ability to the limits by a long shot. Most of the game you just fuck around, including officials, judging by quite a few VODs i'll tell you that.

Mid/high 6s and prem hl experience? Like whom, Shaggz played Mid tops 3 seasons ago, Lena played Mid tops as a medic, Mason played Mid tops, Phong and Lucian(is a sub anyway) are low, rest of the team were literally Open last season and Nightmare hasnt played a game once.

You wanna talk hl experience after 4 of your mains won div 1 last season? Or 6s where literally 5 of your players been actively playing Mid on and off anywhere from 1 to 5 seasons, all within the same team(with two of them additionally playing in 6s national team). Mason is the only player from main roster that plays hl above Open.

think youre just a little bit full of shit
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Twitch Prime
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lower div drama would be so much more boring if not for russians sandbagging

lower div drama would be so much more boring if not for russians sandbagging
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jnkievrbdlvsmeOur team was placed in low when the provisional tiers got published, and yes, that is kinda bullshit, but for what exact reason should WE get punished? If you have any complains, you should adress them to etf2l admins. Also, the only reason we made it to finals is because we are playing like 10-12 scrims per week, desperatly trying to overcome the fact that we all hate each other . Also also, i like how everyone ignores players with mid/high 6's and prem hl experience in Vague roster.
You wanna talk hl experience after 4 of your mains won div 1 last season? Or 6s where literally 5 of your players been actively playing Mid on and off anywhere from 1 to 5 seasons, all within the same team(with two of them additionally playing in 6s national team). Mason is the only player from main roster that plays hl above Open.

think youre just a little bit full of shit

yeah, playing heavy or engi in a highlander really matters in 6s. the other two players are offclassing and Boshy is even playing medic

You did the same thing last season, when you won low while you played high (6s and hl) with at least 2 more players having mid/high experience in 6s or highlander. But that was fine right? Why do you care so much now? O wait...

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[quote=jnki][quote=evrbdlvsme]Our team was placed in low when the provisional tiers got published, and yes, that is kinda bullshit, but for what exact reason should WE get punished? If you have any complains, you should adress them to etf2l admins. Also, the only reason we made it to finals is because we are playing like 10-12 scrims per week, desperatly trying to overcome the fact that we all hate each other . Also also, i like how everyone ignores players with mid/high 6's and prem hl experience in Vague roster.[/quote]

You wanna talk hl experience after 4 of your mains won div 1 last season? Or 6s where literally 5 of your players been actively playing Mid on and off anywhere from 1 to 5 seasons, all within the same team(with two of them additionally playing in 6s national team). Mason is the only player from main roster that plays hl above Open.

think youre just a little bit full of shit[/quote]

yeah, playing heavy or engi in a highlander really matters in 6s. the other two players are offclassing and Boshy is even playing medic

You did the same thing last season, when you won low while you played high (6s and hl) with at least 2 more players having mid/high experience in 6s or highlander. But that was fine right? Why do you care so much now? O wait...
[spoiler][img]https://i.imgur.com/tVv8LDm.png[/img][/spoiler]
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i mean admins allow this to both of us so just roll with it, i am just making my own points regarding evrbdlvsme posts

and brother just cause they play heavy or engi in hl, doesnt mean they main one/in 6s, theyre not inexperienced, just for the reference

i mean admins allow this to both of us so just roll with it, i am just making my own points regarding evrbdlvsme posts

and brother just cause they play heavy or engi in hl, doesnt mean they main one/in 6s, theyre not inexperienced, just for the reference
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best drama since the brazillians

best drama since the brazillians
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jnkievrbdlvsmeOur team was placed in low when the provisional tiers got published, and yes, that is kinda bullshit, but for what exact reason should WE get punished? If you have any complains, you should adress them to etf2l admins. Also, the only reason we made it to finals is because we are playing like 10-12 scrims per week, desperatly trying to overcome the fact that we all hate each other . Also also, i like how everyone ignores players with mid/high 6's and prem hl experience in Vague roster.
Youre good friends, not like the biggest ever but still are friends, you definitely dont hate each other, thats bullshit. These scrims are not your strongest argument either, you just try and have fun, you dont take them very much seriously, you dont push your teams ability to the limits by a long shot. Most of the game you just fuck around, including officials, judging by quite a few VODs i'll tell you that.

Mid/high 6s and prem hl experience? Like whom, Shaggz played Mid tops 3 seasons ago, Lena played Mid tops as a medic, Mason played Mid tops, Phong and Lucian(is a sub anyway) are low, rest of the team were literally Open last season and Nightmare hasnt played a game once.

You wanna talk hl experience after 4 of your mains won div 1 last season? Or 6s where literally 5 of your players been actively playing Mid on and off anywhere from 1 to 5 seasons, all within the same team(with two of them additionally playing in 6s national team). Mason is the only player from main roster that plays hl above Open.

think youre just a little bit full of shit

https://imgur.com/a/DS8WNBJ :)

[quote=jnki][quote=evrbdlvsme]Our team was placed in low when the provisional tiers got published, and yes, that is kinda bullshit, but for what exact reason should WE get punished? If you have any complains, you should adress them to etf2l admins. Also, the only reason we made it to finals is because we are playing like 10-12 scrims per week, desperatly trying to overcome the fact that we all hate each other . Also also, i like how everyone ignores players with mid/high 6's and prem hl experience in Vague roster.[/quote]

Youre good friends, not like the biggest ever but still are friends, you definitely dont hate each other, thats bullshit. These scrims are not your strongest argument either, you just try and have fun, you dont take them very much seriously, you dont push your teams ability to the limits by a long shot. Most of the game you just fuck around, including officials, judging by quite a few VODs i'll tell you that.

Mid/high 6s and prem hl experience? Like whom, Shaggz played Mid tops 3 seasons ago, Lena played Mid tops as a medic, Mason played Mid tops, Phong and Lucian(is a sub anyway) are low, rest of the team were literally Open last season and Nightmare hasnt played a game once.

You wanna talk hl experience after 4 of your mains won div 1 last season? Or 6s where literally 5 of your players been actively playing Mid on and off anywhere from 1 to 5 seasons, all within the same team(with two of them additionally playing in 6s national team). Mason is the only player from main roster that plays hl above Open.

think youre just a little bit full of shit[/quote]

https://imgur.com/a/DS8WNBJ :)
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evrbdlvsmehttps://imgur.com/a/DS8WNBJ :)

have i played a single official for the team? i dont think so, thanks for pointing it out
and to get this out of the equasion ive played 2 maps total subbing as a demo and got dicked on
so your point is: ?

[quote=evrbdlvsme]https://imgur.com/a/DS8WNBJ :)[/quote]

have i played a single official for the team? i dont think so, thanks for pointing it out
and to get this out of the equasion ive played 2 maps total subbing as a demo and got dicked on
so your point is: ?
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#26
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This drama is all fake news to get more viewers.

This drama is all fake news to get more viewers.
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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/101/766/795.jpeg

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