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esea holding me prisoner
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#61
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bro u only have 3 posts... thats wierd

bro u only have 3 posts... thats wierd
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#62
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ohaiderebro u only have 3 posts... thats wierd

https://i.imgur.com/HxbpDH3.png

my tf.tv account was made in 2013. you caught me, akemi, i've been waiting 5 years for my opportunity to terrorize esea open

https://i.imgur.com/Kwp5GuU.png

'my strong husbando abridgiee is no longurr my luvey dovey no more uwuuu'
'u marry me OWO *tickles juu*'

[quote=ohaidere]bro u only have 3 posts... thats wierd[/quote][img]https://i.imgur.com/HxbpDH3.png[/img]my tf.tv account was made in 2013. you caught me, akemi, i've been waiting 5 years for my opportunity to terrorize esea open

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Kwp5GuU.png[/img]

'my strong husbando abridgiee is no longurr my luvey dovey no more uwuuu'
'u marry me OWO *tickles juu*'
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#63
31 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/RJOBay6.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/RJOBay6.png[/img]
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#64
-19 Frags +

check that, 4 posts... sorry!

check that, 4 posts... sorry!
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#65
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lucrativeyour first match of season 28: https://play.esea.net/match/13328517

finals of season 27: https://play.esea.net/match/13102672

so yes besides you continuing to miss the point, you had an identical roster besides yourself.

I feel you're minimizing the difference between a top 4 na invite medic in meyy and me (someone who has never played medic at a competitive level). Its deceitful to say "identical" with such a major roster change.

[quote=lucrative]your first match of season 28: https://play.esea.net/match/13328517

finals of season 27: https://play.esea.net/match/13102672

so yes besides you continuing to miss the point, you had an identical roster besides yourself.[/quote]


I feel you're minimizing the difference between a top 4 na invite medic in meyy and me (someone who has never played medic at a competitive level). Its deceitful to say "identical" with such a major roster change.
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#66
30 Frags +
Liyahohaiderebro u only have 3 posts... thats wierdhttps://i.imgur.com/HxbpDH3.pngmy tf.tv account was made in 2013. you caught me, akemi, i've been waiting 5 years for my opportunity to terrorize esea open

https://i.imgur.com/Kwp5GuU.png

'my strong husbando abridgiee is no longurr my luvey dovey no more uwuuu'
'u marry me OWO *tickles juu*'

This should’ve been handled behind doors...

[quote=Liyah][quote=ohaidere]bro u only have 3 posts... thats wierd[/quote][img]https://i.imgur.com/HxbpDH3.png[/img]my tf.tv account was made in 2013. you caught me, akemi, i've been waiting 5 years for my opportunity to terrorize esea open

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Kwp5GuU.png[/img]

'my strong husbando abridgiee is no longurr my luvey dovey no more uwuuu'
'u marry me OWO *tickles juu*'[/quote]
This should’ve been handled behind doors...
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#67
10 Frags +

tri has stated that there's only a "slim" chance we get banned if the roster doesn't play invite. I'm pretty sure the reason OMNI5 were going to get banned is that they actually paid up and took the spot after registration ended before dying, which nullified another team from being able to move up and take the spot. That isn't the case for us, so we should be good(?).

As far as sandbagging goes, I support any rule that is trying to prevent it, but this rule is clearly not doing that. If ESEA was really concerned about it, they should make a blanket rule that previous IM winners over the last couple of seasons simply cannot play IM again without any loopholes. Actually forcing that team to play invite to avoid getting banned is stupid. Most teams are going to lose players, and the pool of players that are capable of filling those roles is incredibly small, to the point where you're almost guaranteed to have to pick up players who aren't invite capable or who don't mesh well with your team. That isn't conducive for a successful team, let alone one that is likely to survive the season. My hate of this rule has jack shit to do with wanting to sandbag.

I hate the vagueness of the rule and not knowing exactly what I'm allowed to do. If you want to prevent sandbagging, bar us from playing IM or Open this season, don't actually go through with this rule.

tri has stated that there's only a "slim" chance we get banned if the roster doesn't play invite. I'm pretty sure the reason OMNI5 were going to get banned is that they actually paid up and took the spot after registration ended before dying, which nullified another team from being able to move up and take the spot. That isn't the case for us, so we should be good(?).

As far as sandbagging goes, I support any rule that is trying to prevent it, but this rule is clearly not doing that. If ESEA was really concerned about it, they should make a blanket rule that previous IM winners over the last couple of seasons simply cannot play IM again without any loopholes. Actually forcing that team to play invite to avoid getting banned is stupid. Most teams are going to lose players, and the pool of players that are capable of filling those roles is incredibly small, to the point where you're almost guaranteed to have to pick up players who aren't invite capable or who don't mesh well with your team. That isn't conducive for a successful team, let alone one that is likely to survive the season. My hate of this rule has jack shit to do with wanting to sandbag.

I hate the vagueness of the rule and not knowing exactly what I'm allowed to do. If you want to prevent sandbagging, bar us from playing IM or Open this season, don't actually go through with this rule.
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#68
20 Frags +

die gays

die gays
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#69
17 Frags +
catdie gays

finally something i can agree with!

[quote=cat]die gays[/quote]

finally something i can agree with!
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#70
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There needs to be a limit on how many people from a higher div you can have on a lower div team. Placing top 4 in the lower div should mark you as being a higher div. This would help with the sandbag issue.

There needs to be a limit on how many people from a higher div you can have on a lower div team. Placing top 4 in the lower div should mark you as being a higher div. This would help with the sandbag issue.
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#71
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Liyahis this the same guy that randomly added me and tried flirting with me by spamming anime emoticons and going ^/////^ LOL

catface ur the type of person to antagonize half the ppl u meet, claim invite 1st place in ur experience bc u subbed for a couple unloseable froyo matches, and play open on an alt account to feel good about urself. all around u come off as really fucking toxic to any1 who isnt 'in' with you, and in case u didnt pick up the memo thats not a good thing.

do u really think a roster of catface/cukei/unskilled/megaboy/branslam/xbs should play in open? I have even heard half the ppl on that team express sentiments that the shit popo pulled in IM was stupid so I am doubly dissapointed that these players are now trying to play open.

[quote=Liyah]is this the same guy that randomly added me and tried flirting with me by spamming anime emoticons and going ^/////^ LOL[/quote]
catface ur the type of person to antagonize half the ppl u meet, [url=http://puu.sh/BkLh1/03589ebfd8.jpg]claim invite 1st place in ur experience bc u subbed for a couple unloseable froyo matches[/url], and play open on an alt account to feel good about urself. all around u come off as really fucking toxic to any1 who isnt 'in' with you, and in case u didnt pick up the memo thats [i]not a good thing[/i].

do u really think a roster of catface/cukei/unskilled/megaboy/branslam/xbs should play in open? I have even heard half the ppl on that team express sentiments that the shit popo pulled in IM was stupid so I am doubly dissapointed that these players are now trying to play [b]open[/b].
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#72
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Daffodil-do u really think a roster of catface/cukei/unskilled/megaboy/branslam/xbs should play in open? I have even heard half the ppl on that team express sentiments that the shit popo pulled in IM was stupid so I am doubly dissapointed that these players are now trying to play open.

absolute hypocrite

[quote=Daffodil-]
do u really think a roster of catface/cukei/[b]unskilled[/b]/megaboy/branslam/xbs should play in open? I have even heard half the ppl on that team express sentiments that the shit popo pulled in IM was stupid so I am doubly dissapointed that these players are now trying to play [b]open[/b].[/quote]

absolute hypocrite
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#73
44 Frags +
mr_popoWe see who the real hypocrite is

quit posting ur team is just as cringe
u got 1st/2nd place for 3 seasons in a row and never moved up while we had invite teams that clearly were only playing bc nobody else would, u poached my scout in s26, and now ur trying to play the victim because a top 4 NA medic wouldn't keep carrying ur braindead bots.

i get that some of players saw the team as a friend team but its willful ignorance at best when u pretend like u dont know what u were doing.

edit: the difference between u and unskilled is that unskilled foams at the mouth wanting to play invite and john milter wouldn't touch it with a 20 mile pole for the last 4 seasons

[quote=mr_popo]
We see who the real hypocrite is[/quote]
quit posting ur team is just as cringe
u got 1st/2nd place for 3 seasons in a row and never moved up while we had invite teams that clearly were only playing bc nobody else would, u poached my scout in s26, and now ur trying to play the victim because a top 4 NA medic wouldn't keep carrying ur braindead bots.

i get that some of players saw the team as a friend team but its willful ignorance at best when u pretend like u dont know what u were doing.

edit: the difference between u and unskilled is that unskilled foams at the mouth wanting to play invite and john milter wouldn't touch it with a 20 mile pole for the last 4 seasons
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#74
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o_o

o_o
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#75
9 Frags +

mr popo more like mr poopoo LOL

mr popo more like mr poopoo LOL
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#76
45 Frags +

mr popo's team got rolled by trip scout

mr popo's team got rolled by trip scout
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#77
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Why does Sporadic get excused for sandbagging due to losing players and my team does not?

Every season my team lost players due to rl circumstances or members wanting to play for a different team. You're channeling your hatred towards my good buddy JM onto my team and I. That ain't right.

Here is our roster turnover from the beginning:
season 25 (open): fuzion, reimu, and vaati
season 26 (open 2nd place): Mikey, zilly, Grimm, Rekuso
season 27 (im): meyy (losing meyy impact wise is like losing 2+ players)

I don't know how you expect a team that losses 3/6 | 4/6 | 2/6 players to just seamlessly transition to invite. How many players is Sporadic losing? They all seem to be LFT...

Why does Sporadic get excused for sandbagging due to losing players and my team does not?

Every season my team lost players due to rl circumstances or members wanting to play for a different team. You're channeling your hatred towards my good buddy JM onto my team and I. That ain't right.

Here is our roster turnover from the beginning:
season 25 (open): fuzion, reimu, and vaati
season 26 (open 2nd place): Mikey, zilly, Grimm, Rekuso
season 27 (im): meyy (losing meyy impact wise is like losing 2+ players)

I don't know how you expect a team that losses 3/6 | 4/6 | 2/6 players to just seamlessly transition to invite. How many players is Sporadic losing? They all seem to be LFT...
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#78
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dont sleep on trip scout......

dont sleep on trip scout......
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#79
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mr_popoWhy does Sporadic get excused for sandbagging due to losing players and my team does not?

Every season my team lost players due to rl circumstances or members wanting to play for a different team. You're channeling your hatred towards my good buddy JM onto my team and I. That ain't right.

Here is our roster turnover from the beginning:
season 25 (open): fuzion, reimu, and vaati
season 26 (open 2nd place): Mikey, zilly, Grimm, Rekuso
season 27 (im): meyy (losing meyy impact wise is like losing 2+ players)

I don't know how you expect a team that losses 3/6 | 4/6 | 2/6 players to just seamlessly transition to invite. How many players is Sporadic losing? They all seem to be LFT...

"woe is me we steadily upgraded our roster until this season and we can't play invite anymore over the likes of H4H or TFCrew"
"guys its hard being an IM sandbagger have sympathy for me......"

go back to the corner and eat ur glue

[quote=mr_popo]Why does Sporadic get excused for sandbagging due to losing players and my team does not?

Every season my team lost players due to rl circumstances or members wanting to play for a different team. You're channeling your hatred towards my good buddy JM onto my team and I. That ain't right.

Here is our roster turnover from the beginning:
season 25 (open): fuzion, reimu, and vaati
season 26 (open 2nd place): Mikey, zilly, Grimm, Rekuso
season 27 (im): meyy (losing meyy impact wise is like losing 2+ players)

I don't know how you expect a team that losses 3/6 | 4/6 | 2/6 players to just seamlessly transition to invite. How many players is Sporadic losing? They all seem to be LFT...[/quote]
"woe is me we steadily upgraded our roster until this season and we can't play invite anymore over the likes of H4H or TFCrew"
"guys its hard being an IM sandbagger have sympathy for me......"

go back to the corner and eat ur glue
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#80
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mr_popoWhy does Sporadic get excused for sandbagging due to losing players and my team does not?

http://www.teamfortress.tv/49285/sporadic-lfp-invite
they lost 4/6 players and yet they are still trying to play invite
so how are they sandbagging again

[quote=mr_popo]Why does Sporadic get excused for sandbagging due to losing players and my team does not?[/quote]
http://www.teamfortress.tv/49285/sporadic-lfp-invite
they lost 4/6 players and yet they are still trying to play invite
so how are they sandbagging again
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#81
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ether_mr_popoWhy does Sporadic get excused for sandbagging due to losing players and my team does not?http://www.teamfortress.tv/49285/sporadic-lfp-invite
they lost 4/6 players and yet they are still trying to play invite
so how are they sandbagging again

are they?

And despite finishing in 4th place tambo & vaati are creating an invite team for next season with 4/6 of our roster. Unfortunately JM's internet is just too unreliable to join them. Its not enjoyable playing with ping that spikes to 200-300 constantly. So do you hate my team or do you just hate John?

[quote=ether_][quote=mr_popo]Why does Sporadic get excused for sandbagging due to losing players and my team does not?[/quote]
http://www.teamfortress.tv/49285/sporadic-lfp-invite
they lost 4/6 players and yet they are still trying to play invite
so how are they sandbagging again[/quote]


are they?

And despite finishing in 4th place tambo & vaati are creating an invite team for next season with 4/6 of our roster. Unfortunately JM's internet is just too unreliable to join them. Its not enjoyable playing with ping that spikes to 200-300 constantly. So do you hate my team or do you just hate John?
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#82
9 Frags +

yeah the sporadic lfp for invite is just a ruse, sporadic is sandbagging s29 open.

what is the "are they?" trying to address lol.

yeah the sporadic lfp for invite is just a ruse, sporadic is sandbagging s29 open.

what is the "are they?" trying to address lol.
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#83
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hayesyeah the sporadic lfp for invite is just a ruse, sporadic is sandbagging s29 open.

what is the "are they?" trying to address lol.

I mean if they're playing/rebuilding then this whole thread is unnecessary ain't it?

[quote=hayes]yeah the sporadic lfp for invite is just a ruse, sporadic is sandbagging s29 open.

what is the "are they?" trying to address lol.[/quote]

I mean if they're playing/rebuilding then this whole thread is unnecessary ain't it?
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#84
17 Frags +
mr_popotambo & vaati are creating an invite team

is my team dead...

[quote=mr_popo]
tambo & vaati are creating an invite team[/quote]

is my team dead...
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#85
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mr_popoare they?

And despite finishing in 4th place tambo & vaati are creating an invite team for next season with 4/6 of our roster. Unfortunately JM's internet is just too unreliable to join them. Its not enjoyable playing with ping that spikes to 200-300 constantly. So do you hate my team or do you just hate John?

Season 25 1st
Season 26 2nd
Season 27 1st
Season 28 Get fucked by trip

i also wanna point out, popo was 'dead' until the millisecond max's team was confirmed as the 9th invite team. As soon as a 9th invite team was confirmed u guys were magically alive again for this season, but OH NO there are no invite spots now D: guess we gotta play IM again what a shameeee......

an invite team being made out of 4/6 of ur roster is 3 seasons too late

[quote=mr_popo]
are they?

And despite finishing in 4th place tambo & vaati are creating an invite team for next season with 4/6 of our roster. Unfortunately JM's internet is just too unreliable to join them. Its not enjoyable playing with ping that spikes to 200-300 constantly. So do you hate my team or do you just hate John?[/quote]

[url=http://puu.sh/BkOvN/e603d7958f.png]Season 25[/url] 1st
[url=http://puu.sh/BkOuK/d11ccaef92.png]Season 26[/url] 2nd
[url=http://puu.sh/BkOtv/5925adb715.png]Season 27[/url] 1st
[url=http://puu.sh/BkOsp/a90445fd12.png]Season 28[/url] Get fucked by trip

i also wanna point out, popo was 'dead' until the millisecond max's team was confirmed as the 9th invite team. As soon as a 9th invite team was confirmed u guys were magically alive again for this season, but OH NO there are no invite spots now D: guess we gotta play IM again what a shameeee......

an invite team being made out of 4/6 of ur roster is 3 seasons too late
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#86
39 Frags +
Daffodil-Liyahis this the same guy that randomly added me and tried flirting with me by spamming anime emoticons and going ^/////^ LOLcatface ur the type of person to antagonize half the ppl u meet, claim invite 1st place in ur experience bc u subbed for a couple unloseable froyo matches, and play open on an alt account to feel good about urself. all around u come off as really fucking toxic to any1 who isnt 'in' with you, and in case u didnt pick up the memo thats not a good thing.

do u really think a roster of catface/cukei/unskilled/megaboy/branslam/xbs should play in open? I have even heard half the ppl on that team express sentiments that the shit popo pulled in IM was stupid so I am doubly dissapointed that these players are now trying to play open.

wow catface is being a shit lord?? who would’ve thought..

Liyahmy tf.tv account was made in 2013. you caught me, akemi, i've been waiting 5 years for my opportunity to terrorize esea open

also lmao @ using an old ass alt and trying to start a new identity to avoid backlash bcus ur that huge of a pussy

[quote=Daffodil-][quote=Liyah]is this the same guy that randomly added me and tried flirting with me by spamming anime emoticons and going ^/////^ LOL[/quote]
catface ur the type of person to antagonize half the ppl u meet, [url=http://puu.sh/BkLh1/03589ebfd8.jpg]claim invite 1st place in ur experience bc u subbed for a couple unloseable froyo matches[/url], and play open on an alt account to feel good about urself. all around u come off as really fucking toxic to any1 who isnt 'in' with you, and in case u didnt pick up the memo thats [i]not a good thing[/i].

do u really think a roster of catface/cukei/unskilled/megaboy/branslam/xbs should play in open? I have even heard half the ppl on that team express sentiments that the shit popo pulled in IM was stupid so I am doubly dissapointed that these players are now trying to play [b]open[/b].[/quote]
wow catface is being a shit lord?? who would’ve thought..
[quote=Liyah]my tf.tv account was made in 2013. you caught me, akemi, i've been waiting 5 years for my opportunity to terrorize esea open
[/quote] also lmao @ using an old ass alt and trying to start a new identity to avoid backlash bcus ur that huge of a pussy
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#87
8 Frags +
mr_popohayesyeah the sporadic lfp for invite is just a ruse, sporadic is sandbagging s29 open.

what is the "are they?" trying to address lol.

I mean if they're playing/rebuilding then this whole thread is unnecessary ain't it?

This thread is about the league forcing a team that is going to be incredibly difficult or just straight up impossible to replace four players to play invite or else get banned for an entire year. Regardless of whether or not the team actually plays invite or rebuilds is irrelevant; the rule is bullshit and shouldn't be enforced.

Just to remind people here because of how this thread has derailed completely, the problem here has to do with the rule and NOT the problem with what it's trying to address. I completely support any rule that is trying to prevent sandbagging, but this isn't how you do it. It's one thing to prevent players from doing something, and another thing entirely to force them to.

[quote=mr_popo][quote=hayes]yeah the sporadic lfp for invite is just a ruse, sporadic is sandbagging s29 open.

what is the "are they?" trying to address lol.[/quote]

I mean if they're playing/rebuilding then this whole thread is unnecessary ain't it?[/quote]

This thread is about the league forcing a team that is going to be incredibly difficult or just straight up impossible to replace four players to play invite or else get banned for an entire year. Regardless of whether or not the team actually plays invite or rebuilds is irrelevant; the rule is bullshit and shouldn't be enforced.

Just to remind people here because of how this thread has derailed completely, the problem here has to do with the rule and NOT the problem with what it's trying to address. I completely support any rule that is trying to prevent sandbagging, but this isn't how you do it. It's one thing to prevent players from doing something, and another thing entirely to force them to.
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#88
-14 Frags +
Nurseymr popo's team got rolled by trip scoutDaffodil-Season 28 Get fucked by trip

i also wanna point out, popo was 'dead' until the millisecond max's team was confirmed as the 9th invite team. As soon as a 9th invite team was confirmed u guys were magically alive again for this season, but OH NO there are no invite spots now D: guess we gotta play IM again what a shameeee......

an invite team being made out of 4/6 of ur roster is 3 seasons too late

so its ok for trip to sandbag (Invite veteran of 5 seasons with 49 invite matches played) and then bail on the IM winning team he carried without criticism

real fine double standard

and after season 27 n3, tambo, and vaati were all looking for invite teams up until the roster deadline. You can peruse their looking threads and such if you'd like. In fact I believe n3 was trying out for Omni5 invite. I bit the bullet and played medic to resurrect our team and give my friends a place to play at the last minute.

[quote=Nursey]mr popo's team got rolled by trip scout[/quote]


[quote=Daffodil-]
[url=http://puu.sh/BkOsp/a90445fd12.png]Season 28[/url] Get fucked by trip

i also wanna point out, popo was 'dead' until the millisecond max's team was confirmed as the 9th invite team. As soon as a 9th invite team was confirmed u guys were magically alive again for this season, but OH NO there are no invite spots now D: guess we gotta play IM again what a shameeee......

an invite team being made out of 4/6 of ur roster is 3 seasons too late[/quote]


so its ok for trip to sandbag (Invite veteran of 5 seasons with 49 invite matches played) and then bail on the IM winning team he carried without criticism

real fine double standard


and after season 27 n3, tambo, and vaati were all looking for invite teams up until the roster deadline. You can peruse their looking threads and such if you'd like. In fact I believe n3 was trying out for Omni5 invite. I bit the bullet and played medic to resurrect our team and give my friends a place to play at the last minute.
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#89
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#90
23 Frags +
mr_popos

There is a distinct difference between 5 out of the 6 division winners from last season deciding to play the same division again, and one player dropping down a division to offclass. There is no double standard here.

I know that a lot of your players thought of the team as a friend team playing casually, but to everyone else it looks super fucking stupid to see people win the division AND FUCKING STAY THERE SEASON AFTER SEASON.

[quote=mr_popo]
s[/quote]
There is a distinct difference between 5 out of the 6 division winners from last season deciding to play the same division again, and one player dropping down a division to offclass. There is no double standard here.

I know that a lot of your players thought of the team as a friend team playing casually, but to everyone else it looks super fucking stupid to see people win the division AND FUCKING STAY THERE SEASON AFTER SEASON.
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