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Insomnia 63 Team Fortress 2 Open Tournament
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EssentialsTF
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You can signup for the Insomnia 63 TF2 Tournament early and find all of the rules and structure of the tournament on our Toornament page. Fixture Times and Structures are subject to change and are dependant on signups. Please make sure that you read the rules before signing up.

https://www.toornament.com/tournaments/1631514046444314624/information

If you a team leader of an attending team, there is a text channel on our Discord which you can use to communicate with us with any questions. We will be using these channels to communicate at LAN so please make sure you are in that server. DM me if you need access to that Channel.

This thread will also be used to announce further information like the Talent/Production team as well as answering any questions that the community will have. I understand this should have been out weeks ago and for that, I do honestly apologize for not being proactive enough and promise that we are working our absolute hardest to get everything ready.

If your team is attending iSeries and have not signed up to the Tournament Page by the time signups close on Friday, you will not be able to compete.

Note: Some information cannot be disclosed and we will be transparent when that is the case, but we will try to be as honest and explicit as we can.

Schedule

[b]You can signup for the Insomnia 63 TF2 Tournament early and find all of the rules and structure of the tournament on our Toornament page. Fixture Times and Structures are subject to change and are dependant on signups. Please make sure that you read the rules before signing up.[/b]

https://www.toornament.com/tournaments/1631514046444314624/information

[b]If you a team leader of an attending team, there is a text channel on our Discord which you can use to communicate with us with any questions. We will be using these channels to communicate at LAN so please make sure you are in that server. DM me if you need access to that Channel.[/b]

This thread will also be used to announce further information like the Talent/Production team as well as answering any questions that the community will have. I understand this should have been out weeks ago and for that, I do honestly apologize for not being proactive enough and promise that we are working our absolute hardest to get everything ready.

[b]If your team is attending iSeries and have not signed up to the Tournament Page by the time signups close on Friday, you will not be able to compete.[/b]

[i]Note: Some information cannot be disclosed and we will be transparent when that is the case, but we will try to be as honest and explicit as we can.[/i]

[url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19dLZbg3X8Fvw-_6iA0c4LL1ohCRUdQj0d2YGxCJ_8cw/edit?usp=sharing]Schedule[/url]
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#2
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why not prolands_b6

why not prolands_b6
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#3
EssentialsTF
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Pheaawhy not prolands_b6

Simply put, the map has not been in any League rotation, so has not been playtested. Since the change is not a drastic geometry change, it may be put in the map pool should there be positive feedback from playtesting and a sufficient demand for the change.

[quote=Pheaa]why not prolands_b6[/quote]

Simply put, the map has not been in any League rotation, so has not been playtested. Since the change is not a drastic geometry change, it may be put in the map pool should there be positive feedback from playtesting and a sufficient demand for the change.
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whitelist.tf
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9) Game Settings
9.1) All matches are to be played with the latest version of the Essentials Config, Global Whitelist and Map Version.

So 5cp will be played as First to 5 | Timelimit 30 and koth is BO5, right?

Also stating 'latest map version' in that line would imply prolands_b6 being used, but that's just being pedantic.

[quote]9) Game Settings
9.1) All matches are to be played with the latest version of the Essentials Config, Global Whitelist and Map Version.[/quote]
So 5cp will be played as First to 5 | Timelimit 30 and koth is BO5, right?

Also stating 'latest map version' in that line would imply prolands_b6 being used, but that's just being pedantic.
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#5
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why is this on toornament and not the ETF tournament setup
I thought that was the point of testing the new system on the site?

why is this on toornament and not the ETF tournament setup
I thought that was the point of testing the new system on the site?
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#6
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Could there be a vote on the first to 5/windifference 5 thing?

Could there be a vote on the first to 5/windifference 5 thing?
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#7
EssentialsTF
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Wiethoofd9) Game Settings
9.1) All matches are to be played with the latest version of the Essentials Config, Global Whitelist and Map Version.
So 5cp will be played as First to 5 | Timelimit 30 and koth is BO5, right?

Also stating 'latest map version' in that line would imply prolands_b6 being used, but that's just being pedantic.

Yeah, that should be what the config runs. In terms of the map version quote, I'll update that text, many thanks.

Console-why is this on toornament and not the ETF tournament setup
I thought that was the point of testing the new system on the site?

That was the intention, however, I believed that the ETF Tournament System was not in a state where I would be confident in using it at this level and while Toornament can be finicky, it is reliable when actually running. As well as that, myself and the other tournament admin have previous experience with using the site.

[quote=Wiethoofd][quote]9) Game Settings
9.1) All matches are to be played with the latest version of the Essentials Config, Global Whitelist and Map Version.[/quote]
So 5cp will be played as First to 5 | Timelimit 30 and koth is BO5, right?

Also stating 'latest map version' in that line would imply prolands_b6 being used, but that's just being pedantic.[/quote]

Yeah, that should be what the config runs. In terms of the map version quote, I'll update that text, many thanks.

[quote=Console-]why is this on toornament and not the ETF tournament setup
I thought that was the point of testing the new system on the site?[/quote]

That was the intention, however, I believed that the ETF Tournament System was not in a state where I would be confident in using it at this level and while Toornament can be finicky, it is reliable when actually running. As well as that, myself and the other tournament admin have previous experience with using the site.
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#8
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DrHappinessWiethoofdSo 5cp will be played as First to 5 | Timelimit 30 and koth is BO5, right?

current 5cp is

mp_timelimit 30
mp_windifference 5
mp_winlimit 0

and koth is

mp_timelimit 0
mp_windifference 0
mp_winlimit 3

which is the same as etf2l

[quote=DrHappiness][quote=Wiethoofd]
So 5cp will be played as First to 5 | Timelimit 30 and koth is BO5, right?[/quote] [/quote]

current 5cp is
[code]mp_timelimit 30
mp_windifference 5
mp_winlimit 0[/code]

and koth is [code]mp_timelimit 0
mp_windifference 0
mp_winlimit 3[/code]

which is the same as etf2l
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#9
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do the "invite" teams have to sign up aswell? or are the signups just for the open group

do the "invite" teams have to sign up aswell? or are the signups just for the open group
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#10
EssentialsTF
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smzido the "invite" teams have to sign up aswell? or are the signups just for the open group

We will be making an announcement regarding Invite Teams very soon. Just need to finalize a few details, won't be more than a few days.

[quote=smzi]do the "invite" teams have to sign up aswell? or are the signups just for the open group[/quote]

We will be making an announcement regarding Invite Teams very soon. Just need to finalize a few details, won't be more than a few days.
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#11
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is this the actual format this time or are they gonna change once people get to the venue like at cph and i61

is this the actual format this time or are they gonna change once people get to the venue like at cph and i61
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#12
EssentialsTF
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BumFreezeis this the actual format this time or are they gonna change once people get to the venue like at cph and i61

At this point in time, I believe that the format you see on the Toornament page is accurate and is not subject to any changes. BO1 Round Robin Open, BO2 Round Robin Invite, BO3 Playoffs. Invite features 2 groups of 4 and open features 4 groups of 8.

Times and number of rounds etc are dependant on signups and certain details we are waiting on like specific time for main stage.

[quote=BumFreeze]is this the actual format this time or are they gonna change once people get to the venue like at cph and i61[/quote]

At this point in time, I believe that the format you see on the Toornament page is accurate and is not subject to any changes. BO1 Round Robin Open, BO2 Round Robin Invite, BO3 Playoffs. Invite features 2 groups of 4 and open features 4 groups of 8.

Times and number of rounds etc are dependant on signups and certain details we are waiting on like specific time for main stage.
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#13
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Is there a dedicated thread for players looking for a team for this?

Is there a dedicated thread for players looking for a team for this?
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#14
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UltraPhiIs there a dedicated thread for players looking for a team for this?

try etf2l rec page

[quote=UltraPhi]Is there a dedicated thread for players looking for a team for this?[/quote] try etf2l rec page
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#15
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'The top teams from each group will qualify to the Playoffs with Invite teams in a 16 Team Double Elimination Bracket.'

Don't you mean the top 2 teams from each group? Because if only the top teams qualify to playoffs you end up with 12 teams in total (8 invite + 4 open) since there are only 4 open groups.

[i]'The top teams from each group will qualify to the Playoffs with Invite teams in a 16 Team Double Elimination Bracket.'[/i]

Don't you mean the top 2 teams from each group? Because if only the top teams qualify to playoffs you end up with 12 teams in total (8 invite + 4 open) since there are only 4 open groups.
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#16
EssentialsTF
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TimTum'The top teams from each group will qualify to the Playoffs with Invite teams in a 16 Team Double Elimination Bracket.'

Don't you mean the top 2 teams from each group? Because if only the top teams qualify to playoffs you end up with 12 teams in total (8 invite + 4 open) since there are only 4 open groups.

Correct, that has been added to the page.

[quote=TimTum][i]'The top teams from each group will qualify to the Playoffs with Invite teams in a 16 Team Double Elimination Bracket.'[/i]

Don't you mean the top 2 teams from each group? Because if only the top teams qualify to playoffs you end up with 12 teams in total (8 invite + 4 open) since there are only 4 open groups.[/quote]

Correct, that has been added to the page.
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#17
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Looking for a scout/soldier hmu (unless frysk already magically solved the issue somehow)

Looking for a scout/soldier hmu (unless frysk already magically solved the issue somehow)
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#18
EssentialsTF
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Sorry for being delayed with these announcements, been a bit busy with IRL stuff.

New Updates

  • Invite Group Stages will be BO1 with all teams playing in one Round Robin Bracket. Changed from two groups playing BO2. This means that the number of matches is going up to seven on the Friday.
  • Five Teams have automatically qualified to the Invite Bracket, and any other teams will have to apply to play in an Online Qualifier.
  • Froyotech, Se7en and SVIFT automatically qualify to the Invite Bracket due to performances in their regional Leagues.
  • Ascent.EU and Faint Gaming EU automatically qualify due to their recent performance in the EU Monthly.
  • Online Qualifiers dates are not fixed as of yet, but will most likely take place over the coming weeks. The top 3 Teams from the Qualifiers will qualify to the Invite Bracket.

Again, please post any questions here or in the Essentials Discord. DM me on Discord if you want to make an application to compete in the invite division, with your roster and any information that you think may be relevant (e.g Logs or recent performances in your Regional League)

Sorry for being delayed with these announcements, been a bit busy with IRL stuff.

[b]New Updates[/b]
[list]
[*] Invite Group Stages will be BO1 with all teams playing in one Round Robin Bracket. Changed from two groups playing BO2. This means that the number of matches is going up to seven on the Friday.
[*] Five Teams have automatically qualified to the Invite Bracket, and any other teams will have to apply to play in an Online Qualifier.
[*] Froyotech, Se7en and SVIFT automatically qualify to the Invite Bracket due to performances in their regional Leagues.
[*] Ascent.EU and Faint Gaming EU automatically qualify due to their recent performance in the EU Monthly.
[*] Online Qualifiers dates are not fixed as of yet, but will most likely take place over the coming weeks. The top 3 Teams from the Qualifiers will qualify to the Invite Bracket.
[/list]

Again, please post any questions here or in the Essentials Discord. DM me on Discord if you want to make an application to compete in the invite division, with your roster and any information that you think may be relevant (e.g Logs or recent performances in your Regional League)
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#19
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what are the teams in the qualifier? velocity, ora, bus crew, who else?

what are the teams in the qualifier? velocity, ora, bus crew, who else?
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#20
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did the prize pool raise up thanks to additional sponsors or is it still 7500€ as shown on the site?

did the prize pool raise up thanks to additional sponsors or is it still 7500€ as shown on the site?
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#21
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Hmm announcing the qualifier with 1.5 weeks left to lan..

Hmm announcing the qualifier with 1.5 weeks left to lan..
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#22
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DrHappinessNew Updates
  • Ascent.EU and Faint Gaming EU automatically qualify due to their recent performance in the EU Monthly.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if Ascent.EU automatically qualifies because of the cup this week shouldn't The Bus Crew also be automatically qualified since they both reached semi finals?

[quote=DrHappiness]
[b]New Updates[/b]
[list]
[*] Ascent.EU and Faint Gaming EU automatically qualify due to their recent performance in the EU Monthly.
[/list]
[/quote]

Maybe I'm missing something, but if Ascent.EU automatically qualifies because of the cup this week shouldn't The Bus Crew also be automatically qualified since they both reached semi finals?
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#23
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TimTumDrHappinessNew Updates
  • Ascent.EU and Faint Gaming EU automatically qualify due to their recent performance in the EU Monthly.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if Ascent.EU automatically qualifies because of the cup this week shouldn't The Bus Crew also be automatically qualified since they both reached semi finals?

No, they are looking at results

[quote=TimTum][quote=DrHappiness]
[b]New Updates[/b]
[list]
[*] Ascent.EU and Faint Gaming EU automatically qualify due to their recent performance in the EU Monthly.
[/list]
[/quote]

Maybe I'm missing something, but if Ascent.EU automatically qualifies because of the cup this week shouldn't The Bus Crew also be automatically qualified since they both reached semi finals?[/quote]

No, they are looking at results
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#24
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we got rolled by ascent and faint so it makes perfect sense

we got rolled by ascent and faint so it makes perfect sense
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#25
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Not sure if the other teams up for qualifiers are in a similar position but our availability will make it hard to schedule this considering only now we know what's going on and the dates still aren't fixed.

In the remaining 12 days until lan, we have tomorrow and the next day where we will be playing with 1 merc, beyond that it's likely we will need at least 2 mercs on any given day. Are there any rules we should be aware of for using mercs? All I can see in the tournament rules is concerned with substitutes for lan itself and that there's a max of 2, which makes sense for offline play, but if we need to play with 3 mercs would there be issues with that?

Not sure if the other teams up for qualifiers are in a similar position but our availability will make it hard to schedule this considering only now we know what's going on and the dates still aren't fixed.

In the remaining 12 days until lan, we have tomorrow and the next day where we will be playing with 1 merc, beyond that it's likely we will need at least 2 mercs on any given day. Are there any rules we should be aware of for using mercs? All I can see in the tournament rules is concerned with substitutes for lan itself and that there's a max of 2, which makes sense for offline play, but if we need to play with 3 mercs would there be issues with that?
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#26
12 Frags +

are all of the open bracket games gunna be on serveme servers again? or do we actually have more than 4 lan servers this year

are all of the open bracket games gunna be on serveme servers again? or do we actually have more than 4 lan servers this year
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#27
EssentialsTF
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nuzeAre there any rules we should be aware of for using mercs? All I can see in the tournament rules is concerned with substitutes for lan itself and that there's a max of 2, which makes sense for offline play, but if we need to play with 3 mercs would there be issues with that?

For the Online Qualifiers, we would be following the rules of the Monthly Tournaments. In terms of the mercs, if opponents agree teams are allowed to bring in max 2 mercs that are not on the tournament roster. Your tournament roster would be the team that you would be expected to play at LAN with.

In terms of dates, once I have a more settled schedule, I would like to have team leaders in a voice call to discuss how we go about completing the qualifiers.

CallumMare all of the open bracket games gunna be on serveme servers again? or do we actually have more than 4 lan servers this year

As far as I am aware, the servers are going to be LAN.

[quote=nuze]Are there any rules we should be aware of for using mercs? All I can see in the tournament rules is concerned with substitutes for lan itself and that there's a max of 2, which makes sense for offline play, but if we need to play with 3 mercs would there be issues with that?[/quote]

For the Online Qualifiers, we would be following the rules of the Monthly Tournaments. In terms of the mercs, if opponents agree teams are allowed to bring in max 2 mercs that are not on the tournament roster. Your tournament roster would be the team that you would be expected to play at LAN with.

In terms of dates, once I have a more settled schedule, I would like to have team leaders in a voice call to discuss how we go about completing the qualifiers.

[quote=CallumM]are all of the open bracket games gunna be on serveme servers again? or do we actually have more than 4 lan servers this year[/quote]

As far as I am aware, the servers are going to be LAN.
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#28
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CallumMare all of the open bracket games gunna be on serveme servers again? or do we actually have more than 4 lan servers this yearDrHappinessAs far as I am aware, the servers are going to be LAN.

I'm generally fairly optimistic, but I am rather skeptical about this, hopefully you can prove me wrong :D

[quote=CallumM]are all of the open bracket games gunna be on serveme servers again? or do we actually have more than 4 lan servers this year[/quote]

[quote=DrHappiness]As far as I am aware, the servers are going to be LAN.[/quote]

I'm generally fairly optimistic, but I am rather skeptical about this, hopefully you can prove me wrong :D
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#29
EssentialsTF
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Invite Qualifier Applications have been closed and we have 5 teams competing for the remaining 3 slots. They are:

  • Ora Elektro
  • The Bus Crew
  • Velocity EU
  • Quaint Gaming
  • Timed_out

Some of their matches will be cast over the next few days on the Essentials Twitch. They will be a Bo2 match with points awarded for each map won, similarly to how the main season of ETF2L is run. The top 3 teams after all matches have been completed will qualify for the Invite Division for i63 whereas the other two will have to compete in the Open Division.

Invite Qualifier Applications have been closed and we have 5 teams competing for the remaining 3 slots. They are:
[list]
[*] Ora Elektro
[*] The Bus Crew
[*] Velocity EU
[*] Quaint Gaming
[*] Timed_out
[/list]
Some of their matches will be cast over the next few days on the Essentials Twitch. They will be a Bo2 match with points awarded for each map won, similarly to how the main season of ETF2L is run. The top 3 teams after all matches have been completed will qualify for the Invite Division for i63 whereas the other two will have to compete in the Open Division.
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#30
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CallumMCallumMare all of the open bracket games gunna be on serveme servers again? or do we actually have more than 4 lan servers this yearDrHappinessAs far as I am aware, the servers are going to be LAN.
I'm generally fairly optimistic, but I am rather skeptical about this, hopefully you can prove me wrong :D

Hey, I'll be handling servers this LAN, they've allowed us 24 servers, with the current open and invite tournaments and at maximum capacity, the games will require 20 servers simultaneously at most, that leaves leeway for DM/MGE servers etc.
I'll be spending time on and off this week to replicate the setup we'll have at LAN to make sure everything is as smooth as possible on day 1.

[quote=CallumM][quote=CallumM]are all of the open bracket games gunna be on serveme servers again? or do we actually have more than 4 lan servers this year[/quote]

[quote=DrHappiness]As far as I am aware, the servers are going to be LAN.[/quote]

I'm generally fairly optimistic, but I am rather skeptical about this, hopefully you can prove me wrong :D[/quote]
Hey, I'll be handling servers this LAN, they've allowed us 24 servers, with the current open and invite tournaments and at maximum capacity, the games will require 20 servers simultaneously at most, that leaves leeway for DM/MGE servers etc.
I'll be spending time on and off this week to replicate the setup we'll have at LAN to make sure everything is as smooth as possible on day 1.
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