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Thaigrr temporarily banned from ETF2L
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bleghfarec
May 22, 2018

With the 30th season of ETF2L Premiership set to start in the coming weeks, the European Team Fortress 2 League has announced updates for the upcoming season, including staff updates, rule updates, and bans for the season.

Among the newly banned players is Thaigrr, the prolific Scout for the Premiership team Se7en. According to ETF2L, Thaigrr had failed to upload a demo three times for official matches across Seasons 27, 28, and 29. As a result, the Scout main has been barred from participating in the upcoming season for two months, with the ban expiring on July 21, 2018.

More information can be found in the official blog post on ETF2L's website.

With one of their Scouts barred from playing until July, Se7en's active roster for the upcoming ETF2L season is now:

  • Scout: Thalash
  • Roamer: adysky
  • Pocket: AMS
  • Demoman: kaidus
  • Medic: seeds
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#1
58 Frags +

Muuki rejoice

Muuki rejoice
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#2
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So how many games do you guys think se7en can win 5v6?

So how many games do you guys think se7en can win 5v6?
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#3
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Don't really understand the need to make this a news post. He's still on their active roster he's just not playing etf2l officials because they don't matter until playoffs by which point he'll be unbanned anyway.
The ban is practically meaningless.

Don't really understand the need to make this a news post. He's still on their active roster he's just not playing etf2l officials because they don't matter until playoffs by which point he'll be unbanned anyway.
The ban is practically meaningless.
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#4
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rip vani 1 year for demos
rip alle 2 weeks for demos

record and upload your demos

rip vani 1 year for demos
rip alle 2 weeks for demos

record and upload your demos
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#5
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coyoDon't really understand the need to make this a news post. He's still on their active roster he's just not playing etf2l officials because they don't matter until playoffs by which point he'll be unbanned anyway.
The ban is practically meaningless.

TFTV has covered league bans before and I felt it was relevant. Though I do agree that it probably didn't warrant a full news post.

[quote=coyo]Don't really understand the need to make this a news post. He's still on their active roster he's just not playing etf2l officials because they don't matter until playoffs by which point he'll be unbanned anyway.
The ban is practically meaningless.[/quote]

TFTV has covered [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/37043]league bans before[/url] and I felt it was relevant. Though I do agree that it probably didn't warrant a full news post.
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#6
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Go funs/credu

Go funs/credu
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#7
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Smh getting banned in the season that actually has a prize pool

Smh getting banned in the season that actually has a prize pool
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#8
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EoNGo funs/credu

Credu is already in the roster

[quote=EoN]Go funs/credu[/quote]
Credu is already in the roster
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#9
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coyoDon't really understand the need to make this a news post.

Would rather see the happenings of the community rather than posts asking me what my favourite colour is and shit

[quote=coyo]Don't really understand the need to make this a news post.[/quote]

Would rather see the happenings of the community rather than posts asking me what my favourite colour is and shit
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#10
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GO MAROS

GO MAROS
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#11
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Can someone teach him how to record demos please?

Can someone teach him how to record demos please?
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#12
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QBown_Can someone teach him how to record demos please?

"Thaigrr: [P-REC:] DON'T BAN ME PLEASE"

[quote=QBown_]Can someone teach him how to record demos please?[/quote]
"Thaigrr: [P-REC:] DON'T BAN ME PLEASE"
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#13
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funs is already going 2 sub him

funs is already going 2 sub him
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#14
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Kingorcocfuns is already going 2 sub him

Funs joined SVIFT so it will most likely be credu that will replace him until playoffs.

[quote=Kingorcoc]funs is already going 2 sub him[/quote]
Funs joined SVIFT so it will most likely be credu that will replace him until playoffs.
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#15
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BlancKingorcocfuns is already going 2 sub himFuns joined SVIFT so it will most likely be credu that will replace him until playoffs.

doesn't credu have to go to the military

[quote=Blanc][quote=Kingorcoc]funs is already going 2 sub him[/quote]
Funs joined SVIFT so it will most likely be credu that will replace him until playoffs.[/quote]
doesn't credu have to go to the military
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#16
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According to ETF2L, Thaigrr had failed to upload a demo three times for official matches during Season 29

This isn't actually true. It happened once during his time with Se7en/S29, the others were in previous seasons/teams and unbeknownst to us. Thaigrr will play playoffs when he's unbanned, the rest is a formality.

[quote=According to ETF2L, Thaigrr had failed to upload a demo three times for official matches during Season 29][/quote]

This isn't actually true. It happened once during his time with Se7en/S29, the others were in previous seasons/teams and unbeknownst to us. Thaigrr will play playoffs when he's unbanned, the rest is a formality.
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#17
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thats if people accept thaigrr in the playoffs monkaS

thats if people accept thaigrr in the playoffs monkaS
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#18
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Funhaver is subbing for him.

Funhaver is subbing for him.
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ritaBlancKingorcocfuns is already going 2 sub himFuns joined SVIFT so it will most likely be credu that will replace him until playoffs.doesn't credu have to go to the military

He'll be leaving for that in July. So he has some time to waste in the meantime

[quote=rita][quote=Blanc][quote=Kingorcoc]funs is already going 2 sub him[/quote]
Funs joined SVIFT so it will most likely be credu that will replace him until playoffs.[/quote]
doesn't credu have to go to the military[/quote]
He'll be leaving for that in July. So he has some time to waste in the meantime
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#20
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https://i.imgur.com/9bNke04.png

https://i.imgur.com/s8eXV1f.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/9bNke04.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/s8eXV1f.png[/img]
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kaidusThis isn't actually true. It happened once during his time with Se7en/S29, the others were in previous seasons/teams and unbeknownst to us.

I checked in with an admin and this is true. The article has been corrected. Sorry for the mistake.

[quote=kaidus]This isn't actually true. It happened once during his time with Se7en/S29, the others were in previous seasons/teams and unbeknownst to us.[/quote]
I checked in with an admin and this is true. The article has been corrected. Sorry for the mistake.
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coyoDon't really understand the need to make this a news post. He's still on their active roster he's just not playing etf2l officials because they don't matter until playoffs by which point he'll be unbanned anyway.
The ban is practically meaningless.

They remove Thaigrr from all his active rosters during the ban period so he isn't on any team and is ineligible to play any ETF2L matches in that period.
Whether 7 keep him or not when the ban expires is their prerogative.
When the ban expires on July 21st, the rosters will be locked as it will be beyond week 6 of the season when rosters look pre-playoffs so he can't be re-added to the roster until end of the playoffs.
However, assuming opponents agree, Thaigrr can merc after that date so he can still play any games on/after that date.
And 7 can, if they win prize money, pay him his cut as prize money is always distributed to a team leader and sorted out between the team externally from ETF2L admins.

[quote=coyo]Don't really understand the need to make this a news post. He's still on their active roster he's just not playing etf2l officials because they don't matter until playoffs by which point he'll be unbanned anyway.
The ban is practically meaningless.[/quote]

They remove Thaigrr from all his active rosters during the ban period so he isn't on any team and is ineligible to play any ETF2L matches in that period.
Whether 7 keep him or not when the ban expires is their prerogative.
When the ban expires on July 21st, the rosters will be locked as it will be beyond week 6 of the season when rosters look pre-playoffs so he can't be re-added to the roster until end of the playoffs.
However, assuming opponents agree, Thaigrr can merc after that date so he can still play any games on/after that date.
And 7 can, if they win prize money, pay him his cut as prize money is always distributed to a team leader and sorted out between the team externally from ETF2L admins.
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#23
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Also future bans for not uploading demos will get longer and longer, so even if you think this one doesn't affect Thaigrr, next time its much more likely it will. I think that kinda works as motivation to upload demos.

Also future bans for not uploading demos will get longer and longer, so even if you think this one doesn't affect Thaigrr, next time its much more likely it will. I think that kinda works as motivation to upload demos.
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I don't get it why do you guys care so much about every player uploading their own demos isn't that what STVs are for? Nobody legitimately thinks the guy cheats or anything do they?

I guess ESEA uses the client for anticheat purposes so that's why we don't have to do it but it still seems rather silly imo

I don't get it why do you guys care so much about every player uploading their own demos isn't that what STVs are for? Nobody legitimately thinks the guy cheats or anything do they?

I guess ESEA uses the client for anticheat purposes so that's why we don't have to do it but it still seems rather silly imo
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#25
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.

.
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#26
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The ESEA client is way too intrusive and I know that I would never want that on my PC, and for STVs, they have a much lower tickrate than POV demos and therefore dont show exactly what is happening on a persons' screen making it much harder to detect more subtle cheats.

Recording demos is easy, and you only have to upload them when requested, it is really not that difficult and anyone banned for it, deserves it.

The ESEA client is way too intrusive and I know that I would never want that on my PC, and for STVs, they have a much lower tickrate than POV demos and therefore dont show exactly what is happening on a persons' screen making it much harder to detect more subtle cheats.

Recording demos is easy, and you only have to upload them when requested, it is really not that difficult and anyone banned for it, deserves it.
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#27
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bearodactyl...

what #25/#26 said + the rules have to be consistent across all players, making an exception for thaigrr would be unfair.

[quote=bearodactyl]...[/quote]
what #25/#26 said + the rules have to be consistent across all players, making an exception for thaigrr would be unfair.
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#28
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bearodactylI don't get it why do you guys care so much about every player uploading their own demos isn't that what STVs are for? Nobody legitimately thinks the guy cheats or anything do they?

I guess ESEA uses the client for anticheat purposes so that's why we don't have to do it but it still seems rather silly imo

It's been mentioned countless times by AC staff the best way to spot a cheater is to use a POV demo as it's recorded client side and STV demos are server side. This is pretty basic stuff even a tech goof like me understands it.

But putting AC methods aside, no matter how effective they are, it's just in the rules and has been for donkeys years and people not uploading are either lazy, stupid or cheating.

[quote=bearodactyl]I don't get it why do you guys care so much about every player uploading their own demos isn't that what STVs are for? Nobody legitimately thinks the guy cheats or anything do they?

I guess ESEA uses the client for anticheat purposes so that's why we don't have to do it but it still seems rather silly imo[/quote]

It's been mentioned countless times by AC staff the best way to spot a cheater is to use a POV demo as it's recorded client side and STV demos are server side. This is pretty basic stuff even a tech goof like me understands it.

But putting AC methods aside, no matter how effective they are, it's just in the rules and has been for donkeys years and people not uploading are either lazy, stupid or cheating.
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eXtelevision
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Stop looking at fancy watches and get your shit together Thaigrr.

jk jk love you br0

Stop looking at fancy watches and get your shit together Thaigrr.

jk jk love you br0
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HildrethcoyoDon't really understand the need to make this a news post. He's still on their active roster he's just not playing etf2l officials because they don't matter until playoffs by which point he'll be unbanned anyway.
The ban is practically meaningless.

They remove Thaigrr from all his active rosters during the ban period so he isn't on any team and is ineligible to play any ETF2L matches in that period.
Whether 7 keep him or not when the ban expires is their prerogative.
When the ban expires on July 21st, the rosters will be locked as it will be beyond week 6 of the season when rosters look pre-playoffs so he can't be re-added to the roster until end of the playoffs.
However, assuming opponents agree, Thaigrr can merc after that date so he can still play any games on/after that date.
And 7 can, if they win prize money, pay him his cut as prize money is always distributed to a team leader and sorted out between the team externally from ETF2L admins.

But etf2l thought of that and thaigrr can now, after the new rules, only merc 3 games, before being considered a perma merc. So he cant play all the games.

[quote=Hildreth][quote=coyo]Don't really understand the need to make this a news post. He's still on their active roster he's just not playing etf2l officials because they don't matter until playoffs by which point he'll be unbanned anyway.
The ban is practically meaningless.[/quote]

They remove Thaigrr from all his active rosters during the ban period so he isn't on any team and is ineligible to play any ETF2L matches in that period.
Whether 7 keep him or not when the ban expires is their prerogative.
When the ban expires on July 21st, the rosters will be locked as it will be beyond week 6 of the season when rosters look pre-playoffs so he can't be re-added to the roster until end of the playoffs.
However, assuming opponents agree, Thaigrr can merc after that date so he can still play any games on/after that date.
And 7 can, if they win prize money, pay him his cut as prize money is always distributed to a team leader and sorted out between the team externally from ETF2L admins.[/quote]

But etf2l thought of that and thaigrr can now, after the new rules, only merc 3 games, before being considered a perma merc. So he cant play all the games.
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