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GTX 970 low utilization and low fps
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I got a gtx 970 a few days ago and i noticed that my gpu utilization is very low, at 5% with my normal graphics config.
Before this i had a 1050ti and it was at 15% utilization when playing tf2.
What i have tried:
Install only driver and not geforce experience
Set power settings in nvidia control panel to "High Performance"
Increased the tf2 graphics settings to max = gpu utilization up to 13% but fps are even worse.
Used the lowest possible graphics settings and dx8, gpu utilization at 3% and no fps gain.
Capping fps to 144 (didnt help)

Avg fps in small closed rooms (like a spawn) = 200
Avg fps during high intensity combat (bombing as solly) = 70 with dips to 30s
Overall avg fps is about 110.

I use a 144hz monitor and some of my teammates have 970s and get avg 200 fps overall.

Specs: i5 6400, 8GB RAM, GTX 970, 620W Seasonic PSU, M.2 WD SSD

Please help!
Thanks

I got a gtx 970 a few days ago and i noticed that my gpu utilization is very low, at 5% with my normal graphics config.
Before this i had a 1050ti and it was at 15% utilization when playing tf2.
What i have tried:
Install only driver and not geforce experience
Set power settings in nvidia control panel to "High Performance"
Increased the tf2 graphics settings to max = gpu utilization up to 13% but fps are even worse.
Used the lowest possible graphics settings and dx8, gpu utilization at 3% and no fps gain.
Capping fps to 144 (didnt help)

Avg fps in small closed rooms (like a spawn) = 200
Avg fps during high intensity combat (bombing as solly) = 70 with dips to 30s
Overall avg fps is about 110.

I use a 144hz monitor and some of my teammates have 970s and get avg 200 fps overall.

Specs: i5 6400, 8GB RAM, GTX 970, 620W Seasonic PSU, M.2 WD SSD

Please help!
Thanks
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this is normal
welcome to tf2
if you want really good performance you need to buy a modern cpu and overclock it

this is normal
welcome to tf2
if you want really good performance you need to buy a modern cpu and overclock it
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check loads on threads of your cpu

check loads on threads of your cpu
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Yes, your CPU is the most important piece of hardware related to TF2. I don't know much about hardware but your CPU should be powerful enough to get more FPS than that.

Are you using any other graphics configs? If not, you should check out mastercomfig, that config is effective, very customizable, and comes with the major bonus that she's very active on the thread should you run into case-specific issues.

Yes, your CPU is the most important piece of hardware related to TF2. I don't know much about hardware but your CPU should be powerful enough to get more FPS than that.

Are you using any other graphics configs? If not, you should check out [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/42867/mastercomfig-fps-customization-config]mastercomfig,[/url] that config is effective, very customizable, and comes with the major bonus that she's very active on the thread should you run into case-specific issues.
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Are your fps lower than with the 1050 Ti?
If they are the same then nothing is wrong.

If they are lower check the CPU temps, clockrate and utilization.

Are your fps lower than with the 1050 Ti?
If they are the same then nothing is wrong.

If they are lower check the CPU temps, clockrate and utilization.
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FYI i have a i5 6500; iirc the 6400 is boost clocked to slightly less. I have have a GTX 1060, and I get much higher (double) your frames.

FYI i have a i5 6500; iirc the 6400 is boost clocked to slightly less. I have have a GTX 1060, and I get much higher (double) your frames.
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how did people get good performance on this game in 2008????

how did people get good performance on this game in 2008????
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KiNGcheck loads on threads of your cpu

Chrome 15% the rest another 5%
When playing, under 75% load.
How can i make it use 100%?

SetsulAre your fps lower than with the 1050 Ti?
If they are the same then nothing is wrong.

If they are lower check the CPU temps, clockrate and utilization.

Fps r slightly higher with the 970 i think.
Temps r fine (65*C), clocks up to 3.1ghz although it should clock to 3.3 according to intel. Utilizing 75% of the cpu.

MenachemYes, your CPU is the most important piece of hardware related to TF2. I don't know much about hardware but your CPU should be powerful enough to get more FPS than that.

Are you using any other graphics configs? If not, you should check out mastercomfig, that config is effective, very customizable, and comes with the major bonus that she's very active on the thread should you run into case-specific issues.

Just downloaded it and wow, i got a 30 fps boost across the board but LOWs still at 60-70 which wont cut it for me. Im using 75% of the cpu.

[quote=KiNG]check loads on threads of your cpu[/quote]
Chrome 15% the rest another 5%
When playing, under 75% load.
How can i make it use 100%?

[quote=Setsul]Are your fps lower than with the 1050 Ti?
If they are the same then nothing is wrong.

If they are lower check the CPU temps, clockrate and utilization.[/quote]
Fps r slightly higher with the 970 i think.
Temps r fine (65*C), clocks up to 3.1ghz although it should clock to 3.3 according to intel. Utilizing 75% of the cpu.

[quote=Menachem]Yes, your CPU is the most important piece of hardware related to TF2. I don't know much about hardware but your CPU should be powerful enough to get more FPS than that.

Are you using any other graphics configs? If not, you should check out [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/42867/mastercomfig-fps-customization-config]mastercomfig,[/url] that config is effective, very customizable, and comes with the major bonus that she's very active on the thread should you run into case-specific issues.[/quote]
Just downloaded it and wow, i got a 30 fps boost across the board but LOWs still at 60-70 which wont cut it for me. Im using 75% of the cpu.
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loserline49how did people get good performance on this game in 2008????

Cosmetics contributed a lot to the lag and slower performance

[quote=loserline49]how did people get good performance on this game in 2008????[/quote]
Cosmetics contributed a lot to the lag and slower performance
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Check the temperature and clock speed of your CPU after playing a bit. Maybe your CPU is thermal throttling over time.

I used to use a similar rig consisting of an I5 4460 and a GTX970 and got way better fps than you so I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with your system.
The graphics card not being under full load while running TF2 is normal but if you want to be completely sure that your GPU isn't the issue here you can try launching at a lower res and see how many frames you get.

Check the temperature and clock speed of your CPU after playing a bit. Maybe your CPU is thermal throttling over time.

I used to use a similar rig consisting of an I5 4460 and a GTX970 and got way better fps than you so I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with your system.
The graphics card not being under full load while running TF2 is normal but if you want to be completely sure that your GPU isn't the issue here you can try launching at a lower res and see how many frames you get.
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Game is a turd and does physics and wire mesh on the CPU while leaving the GPU completely unused. You can run this game at 4k with 8x AA and it wouldnt make a bit of difference to your FPS. The only way for valve to fix this would be to port the game over to a newer engine which for some reason they are stubbornly not doing despite the fact it would probably make things easier for them in the long run.

Game is a turd and does physics and wire mesh on the CPU while leaving the GPU completely unused. You can run this game at 4k with 8x AA and it wouldnt make a bit of difference to your FPS. The only way for valve to fix this would be to port the game over to a newer engine which for some reason they are stubbornly not doing despite the fact it would probably make things easier for them in the long run.
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Update: fps is even worse with new config

CPU usage 75%
GPU Usage 11% with masterconfig and 5% with my old config

Avg fps 80

Please help (a fellow team member gets 800 fps with a 980ti but he has no advice for me :( )

Update: fps is even worse with new config

CPU usage 75%
GPU Usage 11% with masterconfig and 5% with my old config

Avg fps 80

Please help (a fellow team member gets 800 fps with a 980ti but he has no advice for me :( )
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Ask your teammate what the CPU is and that will most likely answer the question.

Ask your teammate what the CPU is and that will most likely answer the question.
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TixxHow can i make it use 100%?

You can't, it doesn't utilize 4 threads properly.

TixxFps r slightly higher with the 970 i think.
Temps r fine (65*C), clocks up to 3.1ghz although it should clock to 3.3 according to intel. Utilizing 75% of the cpu.

Then everything is working fine.
Changing the GPU won't change fps in TF2 much. So either your problem existed with the 1050 Ti as well or there is no problem.
Up to means up to. Max with 4 cores active is 3.1 GHz. Working as intended.

[quote=Tixx]
How can i make it use 100%?[/quote]
You can't, it doesn't utilize 4 threads properly.

[quote=Tixx]
Fps r slightly higher with the 970 i think.
Temps r fine (65*C), clocks up to 3.1ghz although it should clock to 3.3 according to intel. Utilizing 75% of the cpu.[/quote]
Then everything is working fine.
Changing the GPU won't change fps in TF2 much. So either your problem existed with the 1050 Ti as well or there is no problem.
Up to means up to. Max with 4 cores active is 3.1 GHz. Working as intended.
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Do you have any antivirus or other cpu hungry programs open in the background?

It really doesn't matter if you are using a 970 or 980ti in tf2 because it's a cpu hungry game. I get 200-300 fps using integrated graphics on a ryzen 3 2200g. (that is before my system thermal throttles lol)

Do you have any antivirus or other cpu hungry programs open in the background?

It really doesn't matter if you are using a 970 or 980ti in tf2 because it's a cpu hungry game. I get 200-300 fps using integrated graphics on a ryzen 3 2200g. (that is before my system thermal throttles lol)
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Completely uninstall all video drivers. Reinstall updated driver for current GPU
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Make sure you're using High Performance mode in your power options. If you don't see it their make a high performance mode power plan. (the most important change is setting minimum processor state to 100%) If you don't know how google your OS + high performance power option. Ex. "Windows 8.1 High Performance Power Option"

Using mastercomfig make sure you use the maxfps one, or at least one that disables shadows.

Changing GPU for TF2 and source games in general will not have a fps impact for your game for basically any dedicated gpu released in the last decade. If you change GPUs and your FPS is suddenly worse, it means you're having issues with drivers or major hardware issues or you set your AA settings to something mindbogglingly retarded.

Using the No Hats Mod also provides a decent FPS boost.

Completely uninstall all video drivers. Reinstall updated driver for current GPU
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Make sure you're using High Performance mode in your power options. If you don't see it their make a high performance mode power plan. (the most important change is setting minimum processor state to 100%) If you don't know how google your OS + high performance power option. Ex. "Windows 8.1 High Performance Power Option"

Using mastercomfig make sure you use the maxfps one, or at least one that disables shadows.

Changing GPU for TF2 and source games in general will not have a fps impact for your game for basically any dedicated gpu released in the last decade. If you change GPUs and your FPS is suddenly worse, it means you're having issues with drivers or major hardware issues or you set your AA settings to something mindbogglingly retarded.

Using the No Hats Mod also provides a decent FPS boost.
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Thanks for the responses :)

Thanks for the responses :)
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