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I've got to a point where my decent aim is totally ruined by my twitchy way of moving the mouse because of my choking (im a scout main)

I know it's decent because when I'm playing with cold head I can actually aim, hit people everywhere and move decently, but most of the time there are pugs where I go completely blind, i just don't aim properly, lose all muscle memory, make fuckin stupid movements like juggling myself in the air and getting hit easily by soldiers, etc.

My incredibly colossal inconsistency makes me look like a really good player, and the next day as an Iron 500hr scout
I'm not sure if this is normal, if this has to do with lack of practice nor when will I stop doing this but it's really annoying, it has been happening for a long while now and I don't know how to keep improving so this stops happening. I've been thinking about lowering my sensitivity to an extreme point so twitchings aren't as harmful as they are being right now. I use 1.5@1080dpi, which is about 24-25cm/360º

I've got to a point where my decent aim is totally ruined by my twitchy way of moving the mouse because of my choking (im a scout main)

I know it's decent because when I'm playing with cold head I can actually aim, hit people everywhere and move decently, but most of the time there are pugs where I go completely blind, i just don't aim properly, lose all muscle memory, make fuckin stupid movements like juggling myself in the air and getting hit easily by soldiers, etc.

My incredibly colossal inconsistency makes me look like a really good player, and the next day as an Iron 500hr scout
I'm not sure if this is normal, if this has to do with lack of practice nor when will I stop doing this but it's really annoying, it has been happening for a long while now and I don't know how to keep improving so this stops happening. I've been thinking about lowering my sensitivity to an extreme point so twitchings aren't as harmful as they are being right now. I use 1.5@1080dpi, which is about 24-25cm/360º
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#2
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How often do you pug?

How often do you pug?
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#3
12 Frags +

you shouldnt think of the games that you hit only 100 meat shots as your normal gameplay. Setting super high expectations for yourself is a good way to become unhappy in almost every game you play. Consistency comes with time, as long as you are practicing it will come

you shouldnt think of the games that you hit only 100 meat shots as your normal gameplay. Setting super high expectations for yourself is a good way to become unhappy in almost every game you play. Consistency comes with time, as long as you are practicing it will come
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#4
7 Frags +

Usually it's just in your head.

Let's say you pugged yesterday and recall a bunch of good moments. Then you play today expecting to do well. So every time you do poorly it stings and you keep focusing on that. You might feel like you played better the day before even though there wasn't much of a difference.

Your mental state and what you choose to focus on can exaggerate a feeling of inconsistency immensely.

Also you tend to miss more against better players.

Usually it's just in your head.

Let's say you pugged yesterday and recall a bunch of good moments. Then you play today expecting to do well. So every time you do poorly it stings and you keep focusing on that. You might feel like you played better the day before even though there wasn't much of a difference.

Your mental state and what you choose to focus on can exaggerate a feeling of inconsistency immensely.

Also you tend to miss more against better players.
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#5
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Read a good article on choking Vs panicking. Choking is where you over analyse and what you really should do is just revert to your natural instincts

I'd say slow it down and just focus on your basics

Read a good article on choking Vs panicking. Choking is where you over analyse and what you really should do is just revert to your natural instincts

I'd say slow it down and just focus on your basics
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#6
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DasmemHow often do you pug?

Lately not as much as I'd consider enough, due to South American pugs decaying in overall quality and slowly fading away motivation. Realized NA/EU pugs are waaaaay healthier to improve.

Jynxiiyou shouldnt think of the games that you hit only 100 meat shots as your normal gameplay. Setting super high expectations for yourself is a good way to become unhappy in almost every game you play. Consistency comes with time, as long as you are practicing it will come

That's actually something I never thought of as a concrete factor. Actually I always expect to hit 100dmg shots, never considered lowering my expectations for myself. Thanks a lot for pointing that out.

DwapkingUsually it's just in your head.

Let's say you pugged yesterday and recall a bunch of good moments. Then you play today expecting to do well. So every time you do poorly it stings and you keep focusing on that. You might feel like you played better the day before even though there wasn't much of a difference.

Your mental state and what you choose to focus on can exaggerate a feeling of inconsistency immensely.

Also you tend to miss more against better players.

Exaggerating the feeling of inconsistency is also something I never though of as an option. I feel I must be doing better than I'm doing ATM because there are situations that simply couldn't be missed, but for some reason I beef them and get really frustrated, and again comes up the "idk why im not doing as expected" thing of mine.

and yes, i often miss more again better players but because of choking. I involve a lot of strong emotions into my games and that affects it a lot.

[quote=Dasmem]How often do you pug?[/quote]

Lately not as much as I'd consider enough, due to South American pugs decaying in overall quality and slowly fading away motivation. Realized NA/EU pugs are waaaaay healthier to improve.

[quote=Jynxii]you shouldnt think of the games that you hit only 100 meat shots as your normal gameplay. Setting super high expectations for yourself is a good way to become unhappy in almost every game you play. Consistency comes with time, as long as you are practicing it will come[/quote]

That's actually something I never thought of as a concrete factor. Actually I always expect to hit 100dmg shots, never considered lowering my expectations for myself. Thanks a lot for pointing that out.



[quote=Dwapking]Usually it's just in your head.

Let's say you pugged yesterday and recall a bunch of good moments. Then you play today expecting to do well. So every time you do poorly it stings and you keep focusing on that. You might feel like you played better the day before even though there wasn't much of a difference.

Your mental state and what you choose to focus on can exaggerate a feeling of inconsistency immensely.

Also you tend to miss more against better players.[/quote]

Exaggerating the feeling of inconsistency is also something I never though of as an option. I feel I must be doing better than I'm doing ATM because there are situations that simply couldn't be missed, but for some reason I beef them and get really frustrated, and again comes up the "idk why im not doing as expected" thing of mine.

and yes, i often miss more again better players but because of choking. I involve a lot of strong emotions into my games and that affects it a lot.
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#7
20 Frags +

You shouldn't forget about factors outside the game that may affect your performance. Have you eaten bad? Have you slept poorly? Is there a lot on your mind? I think its important to keep in mind that feeling good physically and mentally is going to make you play better and vice versa.

Consistency in anything is difficult to maintain and its what separates great players from the lesser ones in my opinion. Watching your gameplay back is really important too, sometimes you may just be getting outplayed without realizing because of bad instincts / habits in the game.

You shouldn't forget about factors outside the game that may affect your performance. Have you eaten bad? Have you slept poorly? Is there a lot on your mind? I think its important to keep in mind that feeling good physically and mentally is going to make you play better and vice versa.

Consistency in anything is difficult to maintain and its what separates great players from the lesser ones in my opinion. Watching your gameplay back is really important too, sometimes you may just be getting outplayed without realizing because of bad instincts / habits in the game.
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#8
12 Frags +

I bet if someone amalgamated all the threads about choking and all the helpful replies, we'd have a really great guide on consistent performances.

I bet if someone amalgamated all the threads about choking and all the helpful replies, we'd have a really great guide on consistent performances.
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#9
1 Frags +

I have a terrible problem with choking and also with panicking, I can't help much, but what I can tell you is that lowering your sensitivity does not help you stop panic flicking

I lowered my sensitivity neurotically for the first 3 years I was playing thanks to this problem and I got down to almost a meter for a 360 and my experience was that I would still do those panic flicks. I actually had a much better time once I started to up my sensitivity because it made me stop throwing the mouse around and learn more controlled movements. I also helped to curb the problem by playing hours of other games. TF2 is a very flick heavy game, playing LG on qlive or playing dirty bomb or something else more track heavy also helps you secure yourself in controlled movement.

I have a terrible problem with choking and also with panicking, I can't help much, but what I can tell you is that lowering your sensitivity does not help you stop panic flicking

I lowered my sensitivity neurotically for the first 3 years I was playing thanks to this problem and I got down to almost a meter for a 360 and my experience was that I would still do those panic flicks. I actually had a much better time once I started to up my sensitivity because it made me stop throwing the mouse around and learn more controlled movements. I also helped to curb the problem by playing hours of other games. TF2 is a very flick heavy game, playing LG on qlive or playing dirty bomb or something else more track heavy also helps you secure yourself in controlled movement.
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#10
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https://youtu.be/8rjpDYP9RBk

https://youtu.be/8rjpDYP9RBk
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#11
tf2pickup.org
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dont focus on the game let it "play itsself". you don't need to actively think about playing, you'd do that yourself.

dont focus on the game let it "play itsself". you don't need to actively think about playing, you'd do that yourself.
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#12
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AMSYou shouldn't forget about factors outside the game that may affect your performance. Have you eaten bad? Have you slept poorly? Is there a lot on your mind? I think its important to keep in mind that feeling good physically and mentally is going to make you play better and vice versa.

Consistency in anything is difficult to maintain and its what separates great players from the lesser ones in my opinion. Watching your gameplay back is really important too, sometimes you may just be getting outplayed without realizing because of bad instincts / habits in the game.

absolutely never though of that. I will keep an eye on myself and check if there's something onto me that could be affecting my games. I really appreciate your help :)

nuzeI bet if someone amalgamated all the threads about choking and all the helpful replies, we'd have a really great guide on consistent performances.

I totally agree

MouldI have a terrible problem with choking and also with panicking, I can't help much, but what I can tell you is that lowering your sensitivity does not help you stop panic flicking

I lowered my sensitivity neurotically for the first 3 years I was playing thanks to this problem and I got down to almost a meter for a 360 and my experience was that I would still do those panic flicks. I actually had a much better time once I started to up my sensitivity because it made me stop throwing the mouse around and learn more controlled movements. I also helped to curb the problem by playing hours of other games. TF2 is a very flick heavy game, playing LG on qlive or playing dirty bomb or something else more track heavy also helps you secure yourself in controlled movement.

I think your point has to do with not focusing heavily on TF2 but in other FPS games as well, which is something i've heard of as something really good for aim quality but never taken too seriously, sadly. Will give that a shot. Thanks for sharing your experience!

Tholehttps://youtu.be/8rjpDYP9RBk

I love you

24dont focus on the game let it "play itsself". you don't need to actively think about playing, you'd do that yourself.

yeah, guess that's what choking is about

[quote=AMS]You shouldn't forget about factors outside the game that may affect your performance. Have you eaten bad? Have you slept poorly? Is there a lot on your mind? I think its important to keep in mind that feeling good physically and mentally is going to make you play better and vice versa.

Consistency in anything is difficult to maintain and its what separates great players from the lesser ones in my opinion. Watching your gameplay back is really important too, sometimes you may just be getting outplayed without realizing because of bad instincts / habits in the game.[/quote]

absolutely never though of that. I will keep an eye on myself and check if there's something onto me that could be affecting my games. I really appreciate your help :)

[quote=nuze]I bet if someone amalgamated all the threads about choking and all the helpful replies, we'd have a really great guide on consistent performances.[/quote]

I totally agree

[quote=Mould]I have a terrible problem with choking and also with panicking, I can't help much, but what I can tell you is that lowering your sensitivity does not help you stop panic flicking

I lowered my sensitivity neurotically for the first 3 years I was playing thanks to this problem and I got down to almost a meter for a 360 and my experience was that I would still do those panic flicks. I actually had a much better time once I started to up my sensitivity because it made me stop throwing the mouse around and learn more controlled movements. I also helped to curb the problem by playing hours of other games. TF2 is a very flick heavy game, playing LG on qlive or playing dirty bomb or something else more track heavy also helps you secure yourself in controlled movement.[/quote]

I think your point has to do with not focusing heavily on TF2 but in other FPS games as well, which is something i've heard of as something really good for aim quality but never taken too seriously, sadly. Will give that a shot. Thanks for sharing your experience!

[quote=Thole]https://youtu.be/8rjpDYP9RBk[/quote]

I love you

[quote=24]dont focus on the game let it "play itsself". you don't need to actively think about playing, you'd do that yourself.[/quote]

yeah, guess that's what choking is about
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#13
-2 Frags +

you definetly should change your sensitivity if its hurting you, having a sensitivity that you're comfortable with is crucial to playing good and consistently.

try 11 inches per 360 with 800 dpi

you definetly should change your sensitivity if its hurting you, having a sensitivity that you're comfortable with is crucial to playing good and consistently.

[s]try 11 inches per 360 with 800 dpi[/s]
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