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What do you HATE about TF2?
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#91
-4 Frags +

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#92
10 Frags +

People who play for elo and not for improvement.

People who play for elo and not for improvement.
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#93
11 Frags +

That everybody who i used to play and have fun with quit so i basically had to join them.

That everybody who i used to play and have fun with quit so i basically had to join them.
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#94
9 Frags +

OH BOY THIS ONE'S A DOOZY

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  • TF Team's general ineptitude and ignorance. I get that they are well-meaning and like the game but they must be garbage at it and they don't listen to quality feedback from good players. Tack onto this just how, for lack of a better term, SHIT most updates are. IDK, as a non-pubbie non-retardoloid I don't have a constant craving for content so honestly each update makes me brace for the possibility of the game being unplayable for the next 2 weeks.
  • Pyro and Engy are clearly just leftovers from TFC that they have to have in the game since they were in the original. Spy is similar but I do like it in 6s.
  • On a related note, Spy just works really fucking bad. After almost 10 years. IDK what to say.
  • Shitty visual clutter, especially so with the new flame particle effects. Cosmetics, rocket smoke and trails you can't turn off, egregiously tacky unusual effects, most of which are gaudy looking sprites and the fact that the game is fast paced as it is makes this a huge turn-off.
  • I know they shouldn't be limited in pubs, but even still, fighting multiples of certain classes isn't fun. 2 heavies/engies is just fucking dumb.
  • The fact that I still have hope the game will ever become a big thing but in all reality the odds are incredibly stacked against it.
  • How close to videojaming P E R F E C I O N E it is.
  • I feel Scout needs to be put down a notch but despite how gay it is, it is integral to the ebb and flow of 6s.
OH BOY THIS ONE'S A DOOZY

[spoiler][list]
[*] TF Team's general ineptitude and ignorance. I get that they are well-meaning and like the game but they must be garbage at it and they don't listen to quality feedback from good players. Tack onto this just how, for lack of a better term, SHIT most updates are. IDK, as a non-pubbie non-retardoloid I don't have a constant craving for content so honestly each update makes me brace for the possibility of the game being unplayable for the next 2 weeks.
[*] Pyro and Engy are clearly just leftovers from TFC that they have to have in the game since they were in the original. Spy is similar but I do like it in 6s.
[*] On a related note, Spy just works really fucking bad. After almost 10 years. IDK what to say.
[*] Shitty visual clutter, especially so with the new flame particle effects. Cosmetics, rocket smoke and trails you can't turn off, egregiously tacky unusual effects, most of which are gaudy looking sprites and the fact that the game is fast paced as it is makes this a huge turn-off.
[*] I know they shouldn't be limited in pubs, but even still, fighting multiples of certain classes isn't fun. 2 heavies/engies is just fucking dumb.
[*] The fact that I still have hope the game will ever become a big thing but in all reality the odds are incredibly stacked against it.
[*] How close to videojaming P E R F E C I O N E it is.
[*] I feel Scout needs to be put down a notch but despite how gay it is, it is integral to the ebb and flow of 6s.
[/list][/spoiler]
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#95
1 Frags +

pyro is unplayable for me the flame effects cover half of my screen like airblasting is impossible unless its predictive

the fact that valve keeps finding ways to buff scout/med making roamer so incredibly frustrating sometimes
like I get people dont like to play med and scout isnt that good in pubs but did they really have to
- give scout a faster firing pistol that gives him 7 fucking hp per hit
- make meds run faster with scouts so its mega easy to escape with a scout esp vs soldiers
- make the crossbow build fucking uber crazy fast before pyro jungle update

imagine if valve didn't remove that dumb crossbow building shit, i'd already have switched to maining scout
and despite this every fucking scout I play with at a lower level cant fucking play heals at all
people make fun of me for taking 35% heals when I play pocket but honestly I don't need those heals, ive played
scrims where their pocket scout takes more heals than both of my scouts combined
and then scouts still think that they can just hold W and 1v1 everything with no buff because it's their "style" or some dumb shit
beamscout is literally the easiest thing to play in the game, at least 1 beamscout on every open team would probably improve their games,
its really easy to put pressure as a coordinated team when their scouts are always feeding instead of denying bombs or capping
its even more infuriating when a scout bots into 4 people, dies, and types "wtf?" or "lucky retard" in chat like WHAT DID YOU EXPECT RUNNING INTO 4 PEOPLE ALL BUFFED???

tl;dr I hate scout mains with 0 brain

I also hate playing against someone that im not friends with in mge. why do people just spam before you've even acknowledged their location, how does shooting someone that cant see you help you in a real game?
Even worse is demos camping chokes in DM with stickies everywhere like you dont even need arms for this

what tilts me the most though is people assuming they know shit about the game and trying to call me bad at every turn during a scrim
I call to push in with uber, it somehow ends up being a solo because people are too busy farming dpm by spamming their combo from lobby with 24 dmg proj. to listen
I miss one rocket, as a consequence nothing dies in the uber
as soon as that's over people are like "uhhhh honestly our roamer should play pocket he would be so much better lets cut gatsan then this team would pound"
I don't understand how you could say this when two people want to play sniper for no reason, BOTH go sniper, and stay on sniper for several minutes without switching even though I repeatedly tell them "YOU CANT HAVE TWO SNIPERS SWITCH OFF NOW"

tl;dr people do retarded shit, think they're a huge brain carry player but in reality they're just not getting punished at the level they're playing

man tf2 makes me boil with rage

pyro is unplayable for me the flame effects cover half of my screen like airblasting is impossible unless its predictive

the fact that valve keeps finding ways to buff scout/med making roamer so incredibly frustrating sometimes
like I get people dont like to play med and scout isnt that good in pubs but did they really have to
- give scout a faster firing pistol that gives him 7 fucking hp per hit
- make meds run faster with scouts so its mega easy to escape with a scout esp vs soldiers
- make the crossbow build fucking uber crazy fast before pyro jungle update

imagine if valve didn't remove that dumb crossbow building shit, i'd already have switched to maining scout
and despite this every fucking scout I play with at a lower level cant fucking play heals at all
people make fun of me for taking 35% heals when I play pocket but honestly I don't need those heals, ive played
scrims where their pocket scout takes more heals than both of my scouts combined
and then scouts still think that they can just hold W and 1v1 everything with no buff because it's their "style" or some dumb shit
beamscout is literally the easiest thing to play in the game, at least 1 beamscout on every open team would probably improve their games,
its really easy to put pressure as a coordinated team when their scouts are always feeding instead of denying bombs or capping
its even more infuriating when a scout bots into 4 people, dies, and types "wtf?" or "lucky retard" in chat like WHAT DID YOU EXPECT RUNNING INTO 4 PEOPLE ALL BUFFED???

tl;dr I hate scout mains with 0 brain

I also hate playing against someone that im not friends with in mge. why do people just spam before you've even acknowledged their location, how does shooting someone that cant see you help you in a real game?
Even worse is demos camping chokes in DM with stickies everywhere like you dont even need arms for this

what tilts me the most though is people assuming they know shit about the game and trying to call me bad at every turn during a scrim
I call to push in with uber, it somehow ends up being a solo because people are too busy farming dpm by spamming their combo from lobby with 24 dmg proj. to listen
I miss one rocket, as a consequence nothing dies in the uber
as soon as that's over people are like "uhhhh honestly our roamer should play pocket he would be so much better lets cut gatsan then this team would pound"
I don't understand how you could say this when two people want to play sniper for no reason, BOTH go sniper, and stay on sniper for several minutes without switching even though I repeatedly tell them "YOU CANT HAVE TWO SNIPERS SWITCH OFF NOW"

tl;dr people do retarded shit, think they're a huge brain carry player but in reality they're just not getting punished at the level they're playing

man tf2 makes me boil with rage
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#96
7 Frags +

I hate the whole Nu-TF2. Wish the current devs would just fuck off and Robin returned.

I hate the whole Nu-TF2. Wish the current devs would just fuck off and Robin returned.
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#97
15 Frags +

new tf2 is just worse than old tf2, i want old tf2 back :(

new tf2 is just worse than old tf2, i want old tf2 back :(
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#98
14 Frags +

The in-game competitive matchmaking

The in-game competitive matchmaking
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#99
3 Frags +
Hellbentpyro, engie, heavy, spy
have to actively avoid a lot of players in pugchamp for an enjoyable experience
the community leader is an asshole
demo nerf
medic buffs (xbow, scout speed)
cow mangler is basically a direct upgrade
ping advantage
most jumping is wallpogo
random crits in pubs
melee reg
almost everyone good I meet is under 18
basically no support for competitive scene
tf2 comp is on life support
have to play in esea to achieve anything meaningful
esea servers, although they are a lot better now
ultiduo

still the best game ive played

This
And dying to someone who only won the fight because they got arrowed

[quote=Hellbent]pyro, engie, heavy, spy
have to actively avoid a lot of players in pugchamp for an enjoyable experience
the community leader is an asshole
demo nerf
medic buffs (xbow, scout speed)
cow mangler is basically a direct upgrade
ping advantage
most jumping is wallpogo
random crits in pubs
melee reg
almost everyone good I meet is under 18
basically no support for competitive scene
tf2 comp is on life support
have to play in esea to achieve anything meaningful
esea servers, although they are a lot better now
ultiduo

still the best game ive played[/quote]

This
And dying to someone who only won the fight because they got arrowed
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#100
9 Frags +
gatsanpyro is unplayable for me the flame effects cover half of my screen like airblasting is impossible unless its predictive

the fact that valve keeps finding ways to buff scout/med making roamer so incredibly frustrating sometimes
like I get people dont like to play med and scout isnt that good in pubs but did they really have to
- give scout a faster firing pistol that gives him 7 fucking hp per hit
- make meds run faster with scouts so its mega easy to escape with a scout esp vs soldiers
- make the crossbow build fucking uber crazy fast before pyro jungle update

imagine if valve didn't remove that dumb crossbow building shit, i'd already have switched to maining scout
and despite this every fucking scout I play with at a lower level cant fucking play heals at all
people make fun of me for taking 35% heals when I play pocket but honestly I don't need those heals, ive played
scrims where their pocket scout takes more heals than both of my scouts combined
and then scouts still think that they can just hold W and 1v1 everything with no buff because it's their "style" or some dumb shit
beamscout is literally the easiest thing to play in the game, at least 1 beamscout on every open team would probably improve their games,
its really easy to put pressure as a coordinated team when their scouts are always feeding instead of denying bombs or capping
its even more infuriating when a scout bots into 4 people, dies, and types "wtf?" or "lucky retard" in chat like WHAT DID YOU EXPECT RUNNING INTO 4 PEOPLE ALL BUFFED???

tl;dr I hate scout mains with 0 brain

I also hate playing against someone that im not friends with in mge. why do people just spam before you've even acknowledged their location, how does shooting someone that cant see you help you in a real game?
Even worse is demos camping chokes in DM with stickies everywhere like you dont even need arms for this

what tilts me the most though is people assuming they know shit about the game and trying to call me bad at every turn during a scrim
I call to push in with uber, it somehow ends up being a solo because people are too busy farming dpm by spamming their combo from lobby with 24 dmg proj. to listen
I miss one rocket, as a consequence nothing dies in the uber
as soon as that's over people are like "uhhhh honestly our roamer should play pocket he would be so much better lets cut gatsan then this team would pound"
I don't understand how you could say this when two people want to play sniper for no reason, BOTH go sniper, and stay on sniper for several minutes without switching even though I repeatedly tell them "YOU CANT HAVE TWO SNIPERS SWITCH OFF NOW"

tl;dr people do retarded shit, think they're a huge brain carry player but in reality they're just not getting punished at the level they're playing

man tf2 makes me boil with rage

it sounds like you have no fun playing tf2 at all, why do you bother?

[quote=gatsan]pyro is unplayable for me the flame effects cover half of my screen like airblasting is impossible unless its predictive

the fact that valve keeps finding ways to buff scout/med making roamer so incredibly frustrating sometimes
like I get people dont like to play med and scout isnt that good in pubs but did they really have to
- give scout a faster firing pistol that gives him 7 fucking hp per hit
- make meds run faster with scouts so its mega easy to escape with a scout esp vs soldiers
- make the crossbow build fucking uber crazy fast before pyro jungle update

imagine if valve didn't remove that dumb crossbow building shit, i'd already have switched to maining scout
and despite this every fucking scout I play with at a lower level cant fucking play heals at all
people make fun of me for taking 35% heals when I play pocket but honestly I don't need those heals, ive played
scrims where their pocket scout takes more heals than both of my scouts combined
and then scouts still think that they can just hold W and 1v1 everything with no buff because it's their "style" or some dumb shit
beamscout is literally the easiest thing to play in the game, at least 1 beamscout on every open team would probably improve their games,
its really easy to put pressure as a coordinated team when their scouts are always feeding instead of denying bombs or capping
its even more infuriating when a scout bots into 4 people, dies, and types "wtf?" or "lucky retard" in chat like WHAT DID YOU EXPECT RUNNING INTO 4 PEOPLE ALL BUFFED???

tl;dr I hate scout mains with 0 brain

I also hate playing against someone that im not friends with in mge. why do people just spam before you've even acknowledged their location, how does shooting someone that cant see you help you in a real game?
Even worse is demos camping chokes in DM with stickies everywhere like you dont even need arms for this

what tilts me the most though is people assuming they know shit about the game and trying to call me bad at every turn during a scrim
I call to push in with uber, it somehow ends up being a solo because people are too busy farming dpm by spamming their combo from lobby with 24 dmg proj. to listen
I miss one rocket, as a consequence nothing dies in the uber
as soon as that's over people are like "uhhhh honestly our roamer should play pocket he would be so much better lets cut gatsan then this team would pound"
I don't understand how you could say this when two people want to play sniper for no reason, BOTH go sniper, and stay on sniper for several minutes without switching even though I repeatedly tell them "YOU CANT HAVE TWO SNIPERS SWITCH OFF NOW"

tl;dr people do retarded shit, think they're a huge brain carry player but in reality they're just not getting punished at the level they're playing

man tf2 makes me boil with rage[/quote]
it sounds like you have no fun playing tf2 at all, why do you bother?
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#101
-4 Frags +
Phoenix21gatsanplease quote long posts with something elseit sounds like you have no fun playing tf2 at all, why do you bother?

once you start playing tf2 you will never stop

[quote=Phoenix21][quote=gatsan]please quote long posts with something else[/quote]
it sounds like you have no fun playing tf2 at all, why do you bother?[/quote]
once you start playing tf2 you will never stop
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#102
18 Frags +

This game is 10 years old, and it still needs a supercomputer just to get 20 fps

This game is 10 years old, and it still needs a supercomputer just to get 20 fps
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#103
-5 Frags +
Phoenix21gatsanblahblah i hate scouts cuz im badit sounds like you have no fun playing tf2 at all, why do you bother?

some things in this game are actually fun like playing sticky jumper pipe only demo on viaduct

[quote=Phoenix21][quote=gatsan]blahblah i hate scouts cuz im bad[/quote]
it sounds like you have no fun playing tf2 at all, why do you bother?[/quote]

some things in this game are actually fun like playing sticky jumper pipe only demo on viaduct
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#104
6 Frags +
ScrambledYou do realise that when the final cap happens and the match ends a new one starts?

You are literally being matched into a brand new game and complaining about it.

except the map vote can finish before you even join the server and before you know it you've been matched into a server running a map you didn't search for, so you have to choose between waiting for another queue or enduring koth_suijin or cp_standin
casual ironically really ruined the casual part of TF2, you can't choose to hang around in the same valve server with the same people on the same map for like an hour+ anymore, unless you want to play with a bunch of furries in a third party hightower server who complain and vote you out of the server for killing people

[quote=Scrambled]You do realise that when the final cap happens and the match ends a new one starts?

You are literally being matched into a brand new game and complaining about it.[/quote]
except the map vote can finish before you even join the server and before you know it you've been matched into a server running a map you didn't search for, so you have to choose between waiting for another queue or enduring koth_suijin or cp_standin
casual ironically really ruined the casual part of TF2, you can't choose to hang around in the same valve server with the same people on the same map for like an hour+ anymore, unless you want to play with a bunch of furries in a third party hightower server who complain and vote you out of the server for killing people
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#105
2 Frags +

pyros and when rockets don't register

pyros and when rockets don't register
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#106
5 Frags +

Keep in mind robin was also an ignorant retard who wanted to use TF2 as a playground to see what is profitable. He pushed for the f2p microtransaction model, too (not that bad but still). Just my 2 cents on those saying that this is all cause no robin. The design direction has changed minimally and if anything for the better (half listening to comp players) w/out him.

Keep in mind robin was also an ignorant retard who wanted to use TF2 as a playground to see what is profitable. He pushed for the f2p microtransaction model, too (not that bad but still). Just my 2 cents on those saying that this is all cause no robin. The design direction has changed minimally and if anything for the better (half listening to comp players) w/out him.
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#107
0 Frags +

rocket hitreg
melee hitreg
me playing it
me sucking at it
any and all pyros

rocket hitreg
melee hitreg
me playing it
me sucking at it
any and all pyros
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#108
19 Frags +

the fact that pubbers whose only use of tf2 is trading and dicking around know more about how tf2 works than people who have spent thousands of hours mastering one or more classes in valve's eyes

oh, and fuck pyro

the fact that pubbers whose only use of tf2 is trading and dicking around know more about how tf2 works than people who have spent thousands of hours mastering one or more classes in valve's eyes

oh, and fuck pyro
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#109
10 Frags +

Waiting 15+ minutes to play a fucking scrim

Waiting 15+ minutes to play a fucking scrim
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#110
-1 Frags +

Losing

Losing
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#111
11 Frags +

My Timezone

My Timezone
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#112
2 Frags +

losing to 1v1 on trade servers

losing to 1v1 on trade servers
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#113
7 Frags +

The fact that this community has been trying to make tf2 a competitive game for over 10 years, waiting for something big to come along and bring this scene to the next level, only for valve to add insult to injury by adding in a "comp matchmaking" system which is essentially a no-crit 6v6 pub and having the balls to charge some people money to play it, even while the Mann Co store has raked in millions of dollars in profits and the game still comfortably pulls in 50k+ players a day, when adding in a tournament crate/key/skin and using proceeds to fund a lan and prize pool would almost certainly eliminate money as an inhibiting factor, with valve's indecision of how the competitive format should be structured and lack of support and communication with the community being a direct cause of the current declining state of competition and loss of several important players and community members to other games, along with the shrinking size and slow response time of the development team, guaranteeing that this game's competitive scene will never make it big by any means, is the one thing I really hate.

The fact that this community has been trying to make tf2 a competitive game for over 10 years, waiting for something big to come along and bring this scene to the next level, only for valve to add insult to injury by adding in a "comp matchmaking" system which is essentially a no-crit 6v6 pub and having the balls to charge some people money to play it, even while the Mann Co store has raked in millions of dollars in profits and the game still comfortably pulls in 50k+ players a day, when adding in a tournament crate/key/skin and using proceeds to fund a lan and prize pool would almost certainly eliminate money as an inhibiting factor, with valve's indecision of how the competitive format should be structured and lack of support and communication with the community being a direct cause of the current declining state of competition and loss of several important players and community members to other games, along with the shrinking size and slow response time of the development team, guaranteeing that this game's competitive scene will never make it big by any means, is the one thing I really hate.
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#114
1 Frags +
  • the death of the traditional vanilla gamemodes / few to no plugins community pub, with few exceptions
  • tilt, rage and toxic people
  • that I can learn everything about this game except how to click on things and for most people this means my opinions on the game are worthless
  • that valve has put out several major updates for pyro but they get it wrong every time causing everyone to hate the class even more
[list]
[*] the death of the traditional vanilla gamemodes / few to no plugins community pub, with few exceptions
[*] tilt, rage and toxic people
[*] that I can learn everything about this game except how to click on things and for most people this means my opinions on the game are worthless
[*] that valve has put out several major updates for pyro but they get it wrong every time causing everyone to hate the class even more
[/list]
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#115
-4 Frags +

remove spy

remove spy
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#116
2 Frags +

scouts that hold S when they take 30 damage

scouts that hold S when they take 30 damage
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#117
-2 Frags +
Gritomarocket hitreg

I have never had a problem with rocket hitreg. Please explain.

[quote=Gritoma]rocket hitreg
[/quote]
I have never had a problem with rocket hitreg. Please explain.
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#118
2 Frags +

optimization

the "updated" pyro class

how casual mode feels more like a lottery than anything where your gambling your time

optimization

the "updated" pyro class

how casual mode feels more like a lottery than anything where your gambling your time
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#119
13 Frags +

crunge esports

crunge esports
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#120
3 Frags +

the fact that I never get any better yet my div keeps increasing as everyone better than me slowly leaves this dead game

the fact that I never get any better yet my div keeps increasing as everyone better than me slowly leaves this dead game
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