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Who is the best?
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#61
4 Frags +
Tino_Man how are people not voting plat on demo? Is there just no one around from that era anymore?

In addition to what others have said, I think part of it comes down to Platinum changing positions so much. According to comp.tf, Platinum switched roles six times between demo, pocket, and roamer on Classic Mixup. Whereas b4nny played every season as demo until season 15. Another part of it may be that, even at his height, he was generally regarded (correctly or incorrectly; I am no expert, merely a reader of old articles and watcher of old VODs) as either no. 2 or 1a for NA demos to b4nny's 1. Platinum himself said (it might have been in his AMA?) that b4nny was better than he was on the majority of maps.

Great player. One of the very best. Wish I had been around in his prime.

[quote=Tino_]Man how are people not voting plat on demo? Is there just no one around from that era anymore?[/quote]

In addition to what others have said, I think part of it comes down to Platinum changing positions so much. According to comp.tf, Platinum switched roles six times between demo, pocket, and roamer on Classic Mixup. Whereas b4nny played every season as demo until season 15. Another part of it may be that, even at his height, he was generally regarded (correctly or incorrectly; I am no expert, merely a reader of old articles and watcher of old VODs) as either no. 2 or 1a for NA demos to b4nny's 1. Platinum himself said (it might have been in his AMA?) that b4nny was better than he was on the majority of maps.

Great player. One of the very best. Wish I had been around in his prime.
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#62
4 Frags +
MikeMatsopsI'm surprised Shrugger is listed so low...Its a popularity contest and shrugger doesnt get the mixup, froyo, euro or aus fanboy votes

I think shrugger is as if not more popular than starkie, and starkie is in second place

[quote=MikeMat][quote=sops]I'm surprised Shrugger is listed so low...[/quote]
Its a popularity contest and shrugger doesnt get the mixup, froyo, euro or aus fanboy votes[/quote]

I think shrugger is as if not more popular than starkie, and starkie is in second place
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#63
2 Frags +
HalTino_Man how are people not voting plat on demo? Is there just no one around from that era anymore?
In addition to what others have said, I think part of it comes down to Platinum changing positions so much. According to comp.tf, Platinum switched roles six times between demo, pocket, and roamer on Classic Mixup. Whereas b4nny played every season as demo until season 15. Another part of it may be that, even at his height, he was generally regarded (correctly or incorrectly; I am no expert, merely a reader of old articles and watcher of old VODs) as either no. 2 or 1a for NA demos to b4nny's 1. Platinum himself said (it might have been in his AMA?) that b4nny was better than he was on the majority of maps.

Great player. One of the very best. Wish I had been around in his prime.

Platinum called b4nny a better demo than him

[quote=Hal][quote=Tino_]Man how are people not voting plat on demo? Is there just no one around from that era anymore?[/quote]

In addition to what others have said, I think part of it comes down to Platinum changing positions so much. According to comp.tf, Platinum switched roles six times between demo, pocket, and roamer on Classic Mixup. Whereas b4nny played every season as demo until season 15. Another part of it may be that, even at his height, he was generally regarded (correctly or incorrectly; I am no expert, merely a reader of old articles and watcher of old VODs) as either no. 2 or 1a for NA demos to b4nny's 1. Platinum himself said (it might have been in his AMA?) that b4nny was better than he was on the majority of maps.

Great player. One of the very best. Wish I had been around in his prime.[/quote]
Platinum called b4nny a better demo than him
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#64
5 Frags +
Starry_NebulaeMikeMatsopsI'm surprised Shrugger is listed so low...Its a popularity contest and shrugger doesnt get the mixup, froyo, euro or aus fanboy votes
I think shrugger is as if not more popular than starkie, and starkie is in second place

no hate to shrugger but if people like stark and clock are tier1 i think he's a step behind

[quote=Starry_Nebulae][quote=MikeMat][quote=sops]I'm surprised Shrugger is listed so low...[/quote]
Its a popularity contest and shrugger doesnt get the mixup, froyo, euro or aus fanboy votes[/quote]

I think shrugger is as if not more popular than starkie, and starkie is in second place[/quote]

no hate to shrugger but if people like stark and clock are tier1 i think he's a step behind
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#65
3 Frags +

I think Shrugger's dm might have been above Starkies at their prime, but Stark probably wins because of his offclass shenanigans. I was extremely impressed with Stark and Zebbosai at i55, but I don't think many others were.

I think Shrugger's dm might have been above Starkies at their prime, but Stark probably wins because of his offclass shenanigans. I was extremely impressed with Stark and Zebbosai at i55, but I don't think many others were.
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#66
6 Frags +

Smh there are so many players who should be number one but arent because the people who voted are new players

Smh there are so many players who should be number one but arent because the people who voted are new players
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#67
16 Frags +

Why is Kaidus listed above numlocked and duwatna? What the fuck

Why is Kaidus listed above numlocked and duwatna? What the fuck
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#68
-1 Frags +

idk how alfa isnt getting more votes tbh, hes like a top tier sniper and a super good spy, and not to mention hes the only person to make lan on every class, i think hes demonstrated pretty well that he can play literally every class incredibly well

also maybe once votes stop rolling in take the top 4 or 5 in each category and make a new poll so we can start narrowing down the very best

idk how alfa isnt getting more votes tbh, hes like a top tier sniper and a super good spy, and not to mention hes the only person to make lan on every class, i think hes demonstrated pretty well that he can play literally every class incredibly well

also maybe once votes stop rolling in take the top 4 or 5 in each category and make a new poll so we can start narrowing down the very best
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#69
5 Frags +
Tino_Man how are people not voting plat on demo? Is there just no one around from that era anymore?

Are you saying plat was the best demo to play the game? If you are, the answer is most of the community would disagree with you.

[quote=Tino_]Man how are people not voting plat on demo? Is there just no one around from that era anymore?[/quote]
Are you saying plat was the best demo to play the game? If you are, the answer is most of the community would disagree with you.
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#70
12 Frags +
tsarWhy is Kaidus listed above numlocked and duwatna? What the fuck

frag videos > performance in a popularity contest
imo b4nny is the best demo of all time but kaidus frag vids are why i played demo

[quote=tsar]Why is Kaidus listed above numlocked and duwatna? What the fuck[/quote]

frag videos > performance in a popularity contest
imo b4nny is the best demo of all time but kaidus frag vids are why i played demo
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#71
1 Frags +

yuki's pocket at i46 (or 49 can't remember) was the best soldier play since pocket was the power fragging class in the TLR and then Platinum primes

those 3 have to be the best pockets besides reptile who may well have been the best tf2 player but didn't play anywhere near as long

yuki's pocket at i46 (or 49 can't remember) was the best soldier play since pocket was the power fragging class in the TLR and then Platinum primes

those 3 have to be the best pockets besides reptile who may well have been the best tf2 player but didn't play anywhere near as long
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#72
0 Frags +
Starry_NebulaeMikeMatsopsI'm surprised Shrugger is listed so low...Its a popularity contest and shrugger doesnt get the mixup, froyo, euro or aus fanboy votes
I think shrugger is as if not more popular than starkie, and starkie is in second place

Stark is more popular among euros which is where most his votes came from I assume.

TholeI think Shrugger's dm might have been above Starkies at their prime, but Stark probably wins because of his offclass shenanigans. I was extremely impressed with Stark and Zebbosai at i55, but I don't think many others were.

This is strictly about who's the best scout though - and Shrugger had incredible movement along with incredible aim which not all scouts have.

[quote=Starry_Nebulae][quote=MikeMat][quote=sops]I'm surprised Shrugger is listed so low...[/quote]
Its a popularity contest and shrugger doesnt get the mixup, froyo, euro or aus fanboy votes[/quote]

I think shrugger is as if not more popular than starkie, and starkie is in second place[/quote]

Stark is more popular among euros which is where most his votes came from I assume.

[quote=Thole]I think Shrugger's dm might have been above Starkies at their prime, but Stark probably wins because of his offclass shenanigans. I was extremely impressed with Stark and Zebbosai at i55, but I don't think many others were.[/quote]

This is strictly about who's the best scout though - and Shrugger had incredible movement along with incredible aim which not all scouts have.
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#73
3 Frags +
MonkeySuityuki's pocket at i46 (or 49 can't remember) was the best soldier play since pocket was the power fragging class in the TLR and then Platinum primes

those 3 have to be the best pockets besides reptile who may well have been the best tf2 player but didn't play anywhere near as long

your still the best medic ever monkeysuit <3

[quote=MonkeySuit]yuki's pocket at i46 (or 49 can't remember) was the best soldier play since pocket was the power fragging class in the TLR and then Platinum primes

those 3 have to be the best pockets besides reptile who may well have been the best tf2 player but didn't play anywhere near as long[/quote]

your still the best medic ever monkeysuit <3
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#74
3 Frags +
MikeMatsopsI'm surprised Shrugger is listed so low...Its a popularity contest and shrugger doesnt get the mixup, froyo, euro or aus fanboy votes

I really rate Shrugger, but other scouts had much bigger lans

[quote=MikeMat][quote=sops]I'm surprised Shrugger is listed so low...[/quote]
Its a popularity contest and shrugger doesnt get the mixup, froyo, euro or aus fanboy votes[/quote]

I really rate Shrugger, but other scouts had much bigger lans
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#75
3 Frags +
aim-having a ballot this huge makes this subjective

if youre trying to look for the best you REALLY NEED to trim the list down to like 3 or 4 players

Its subjective anyway.

[quote=aim-]having a ballot this huge makes this subjective

if youre trying to look for the best you REALLY NEED to trim the list down to like 3 or 4 players[/quote]

Its subjective anyway.
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#76
-2 Frags +

I've literally never seen blaze have a bad day

I've literally never seen blaze have a bad day
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#77
1 Frags +

nesk is the besk

nesk is the besk
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#78
2 Frags +

Clockwork
B4nny, Starkie, Shrugger are good
Blaze
Lansky or Mike, but kaptain is sick
Termo, duwatna, bdonski
Shade or Raymond

Clockwork and blaze are the only players who are definitely the best

Clockwork
B4nny, Starkie, Shrugger are good
Blaze
Lansky or Mike, but kaptain is sick
Termo, duwatna, bdonski
Shade or Raymond

Clockwork and blaze are the only players who are definitely the best
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#79
0 Frags +

I'm literally the best fucking player in tf2 history downfrag me if I'm right

I'm literally the best fucking player in tf2 history downfrag me if I'm right
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#80
7 Frags +

I'm just happy to be remembered ຈل͜ຈ

I'm just happy to be remembered ຈل͜ຈ
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#81
1 Frags +

relic for best pocket
soildsnake for best demo
carnage,and oplaid for scout (or decimate)
pyyyour best medic
seagul best roamer
jaeger best offclasser

relic for best pocket
soildsnake for best demo
carnage,and oplaid for scout (or decimate)
pyyyour best medic
seagul best roamer
jaeger best offclasser
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#82
1 Frags +
barefoot_banditrelic for best pocket
soildsnake for best demo
carnage,and oplaid for scout (or decimate)
pyyyour best medic
seagul best roamer
jaeger best offclasser

Didn't Jaeger invent the roamer style

[quote=barefoot_bandit]relic for best pocket
soildsnake for best demo
carnage,and oplaid for scout (or decimate)
pyyyour best medic
seagul best roamer
jaeger best offclasser[/quote]
Didn't Jaeger invent the roamer style
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#83
1 Frags +
mathemaphysicistbarefoot_banditrelic for best pocket
soildsnake for best demo
carnage,and oplaid for scout (or decimate)
pyyyour best medic
seagul best roamer
jaeger best offclasser
Didn't Jaeger invent the roamer style

ye but he offclassed to heavy alot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK35oXJN6e4

[quote=mathemaphysicist][quote=barefoot_bandit]relic for best pocket
soildsnake for best demo
carnage,and oplaid for scout (or decimate)
pyyyour best medic
seagul best roamer
jaeger best offclasser[/quote]
Didn't Jaeger invent the roamer style[/quote]
ye but he offclassed to heavy alot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK35oXJN6e4
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#84
7 Frags +

the real crime is though how 'Shows Old' got more votes than ipz

the real crime is though how 'Shows Old' got more votes than ipz
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#85
0 Frags +
FzzyI've literally never seen blaze have a bad day

https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=10100

[quote=Fzzy]I've literally never seen blaze have a bad day[/quote]

https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=10100
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#86
2 Frags +

Demo: B4nny (I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that Pipe Jesus himself is at the very least top 3).
Medic: Shade
Roamer: Blaze
Pocket: Mike is a beast
Scouts: Clockwork & Yz50 for that legacy.
Offclasser: I picked Alfa because of his flexibility but there are so many other good offclassers in there, especially amazing snipers.

I definitely feel biased because before I got into competitive TF2 I watched a lot of NA TF2 (around 4 years ago) so I don't really have a super good clue as to the skill levels of some older EU players :(

Demo: B4nny (I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that Pipe Jesus himself is at the very least top 3).
Medic: Shade
Roamer: Blaze
Pocket: Mike is a beast
Scouts: Clockwork & Yz50 for that legacy.
Offclasser: I picked Alfa because of his flexibility but there are so many other good offclassers in there, especially amazing snipers.

I definitely feel biased because before I got into competitive TF2 I watched a lot of NA TF2 (around 4 years ago) so I don't really have a super good clue as to the skill levels of some older EU players :(
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#87
0 Frags +

where tf is quad?

where tf is quad?
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#88
2 Frags +

Schocky deserves more votes I think, he was a fucking beast when he was on epsilon, and he was scout of the season a shit ton of times

Schocky deserves more votes I think, he was a fucking beast when he was on epsilon, and he was scout of the season a shit ton of times
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#89
1 Frags +
Sliceroguewhere tf is quad?

he wasnt particularily outstanding... ppl who think quad is the best are only judging him by his frag video

[quote=Slicerogue]where tf is quad?[/quote]
he wasnt particularily outstanding... ppl who think quad is the best are only judging him by his frag video
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#90
0 Frags +

shitonmychest scout 1v1 god

shitonmychest scout 1v1 god
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