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#481
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Setsul#479crithappensI have about a $900-950 budget and would just like a second opinion on part selection. I do not play any intensive games, mostly just tf2, dota, skyrim so believe this is pretty decent for that.Better GPU won't do shit for TF2, Dota or Skyrim. Try to justify going over budget for no benefit at all.

#480spliitI got it for around 2200$ CAD from ncix (mostly)Past tense, it's already too late. There's not a single item in that build I'd agree on and since he already bought it there was no point in commenting on a build I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

I'm not sure what your obsession with recommending 970s for builds that were already finished is about.

Skyrim mods could use the extra horse power especially if he is planning on using graphical mods with his new computer.

I didn't notice the past tense, sorry.

[quote=Setsul]#479
[quote=crithappens]
I have about a $900-950 budget and would just like a second opinion on part selection. I do not play any intensive games, mostly just tf2, dota, skyrim so believe this is pretty decent for that.[/quote]
Better GPU won't do shit for TF2, Dota or Skyrim. Try to justify going over budget for no benefit at all.

#480
[quote=spliit]I [b]got[/b] it for around 2200$ CAD from ncix (mostly)[/quote]
Past tense, it's already too late. There's not a single item in that build I'd agree on and since he already bought it there was no point in commenting on a build I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

I'm not sure what your obsession with recommending 970s for builds that were already finished is about.[/quote]

Skyrim mods could use the extra horse power especially if he is planning on using graphical mods with his new computer.

I didn't notice the past tense, sorry.
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#482
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http://www.logicalincrements.com/

how good is this guide, re: tf2?

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

how good is this guide, re: tf2?
483
#483
-3 Frags +
gardenhttp://www.logicalincrements.com/

how good is this guide, re: tf2?

They seem like a good base for new build, the ones with the best bang for your buck are those between very good and outstanding. The best part of the guide is that it gives you advice on cpu and gpu, as peoples taste in case, storage etc are different.

What is your price range?

[quote=garden]http://www.logicalincrements.com/

how good is this guide, re: tf2?[/quote]

They seem like a good base for new build, the ones with the best bang for your buck are those between very good and outstanding. The best part of the guide is that it gives you advice on cpu and gpu, as peoples taste in case, storage etc are different.

What is your price range?
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#484
2 Frags +

#483
For TF2 it's basically useless, since TF2 needs a ton of CPU power and almost no GPU power. With an fps config it becomes even more extreme (e.g. i5 + integrated graphics will work fine).

It's ok for a balanced build, but it doesn't take into account any deals and it's not updated very often.

#484
You didn't even answer the question.
At least take the time to read the question if you're trying to help.

#483
For TF2 it's basically useless, since TF2 needs a ton of CPU power and almost no GPU power. With an fps config it becomes even more extreme (e.g. i5 + integrated graphics will work fine).

It's ok for a balanced build, but it doesn't take into account any deals and it's not updated very often.

#484
You didn't even answer the question.
At least take the time to read the question if you're trying to help.
485
#485
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I'm looking for a new gaming computer cuz the one that I have at the moment can't even reach 100 fps in csgo while playing on 4:3.
budget is around 550 usd.
thanks in advance.

I'm looking for a new gaming computer cuz the one that I have at the moment can't even reach 100 fps in csgo while playing on 4:3.
budget is around 550 usd.
thanks in advance.
486
#486
6 Frags +

#486
For low settings and lots of fps:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.40 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.75 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($20.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $548.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-21 09:37 EDT-0400

Sacrificed the SSD for a better GPU:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $554.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-21 09:48 EDT-0400

#486
For low settings and lots of fps:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sd8WdC]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sd8WdC/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590]Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($179.95 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($62.10 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pareema-memory-md316c81609l2]Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($48.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120bx100ssd1]Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($59.40 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($48.75 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003662l]Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card[/url] ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.60 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430]Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($20.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $548.76
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-21 09:37 EDT-0400[/i]

Sacrificed the SSD for a better GPU:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fqqYBm]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fqqYBm/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590]Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($179.95 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($62.10 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pareema-memory-md316c81609l2]Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($48.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9280atdbd]XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card[/url] ($149.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.60 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500]Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $554.72
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-21 09:48 EDT-0400[/i]
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#487
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well, since that i am a computer noob i want to ask what does a SSD do?

well, since that i am a computer noob i want to ask what does a SSD do?
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#488
0 Frags +
M4TTwell, since that i am a computer noob i want to ask what does a SSD do?

It's a really fast harddrive. Usually used for storing your OS on since they are as expensive as they are fast.

[quote=M4TT]well, since that i am a computer noob i want to ask what does a SSD do?[/quote]

It's a really fast harddrive. Usually used for storing your OS on since they are as expensive as they are fast.
489
#489
3 Frags +

#488
Pretty much what #489 said. It's nice to have an SSD, the pc boots faster, programs start faster, maps load faster etc. but you can always get one later. I'd make my choice depending on what settings you're going to use in games.
Only CS:GO / TF2 on low settings -> first build
Other games or high settings on CS:GO / TF2 -> second build.

#488
Pretty much what #489 said. It's nice to have an SSD, the pc boots faster, programs start faster, maps load faster etc. but you can always get one later. I'd make my choice depending on what settings you're going to use in games.
Only CS:GO / TF2 on low settings -> first build
Other games or high settings on CS:GO / TF2 -> second build.
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#490
0 Frags +

700-800 budget looking to get 100+ frames on source games, tf2 and csgo are the only games I really play I'm only going to reuse my monitor mouse and keyboard and headphones and my nzxt 210 elite case

700-800 budget looking to get 100+ frames on source games, tf2 and csgo are the only games I really play I'm only going to reuse my monitor mouse and keyboard and headphones and my nzxt 210 elite case
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#491
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Be careful when buying your motherboards and check to see what cables come with it. because the one I got did not have enough fan hookups, so I had to hook one up to the power supply, and it also had only 2 SATA cables.

Its really not that big of a deal, just something to check.

Be careful when buying your motherboards and check to see what cables come with it. because the one I got did not have enough fan hookups, so I had to hook one up to the power supply, and it also had only 2 SATA cables.

Its really not that big of a deal, just something to check.
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#492
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CPU: AMD FX-6100 @ 3.30 GHZ

GPU: AMD Randeon R9 270

PSU: Coolermaster 650 Watt

RAM: Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHZ

MOBO: Asrock 980DE3/U3S3

Monitor: Benq XL2420Z

Mouse: Steel Series Rival

Mousepad: Razer Goliathus control

Keyboard: Roccat Isku illuminated

Headshet: Steelseries Siberia v/2

CPU: AMD FX-6100 @ 3.30 GHZ

GPU: AMD Randeon R9 270

PSU: Coolermaster 650 Watt

RAM: Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHZ

MOBO: Asrock 980DE3/U3S3

Monitor: Benq XL2420Z

Mouse: Steel Series Rival

Mousepad: Razer Goliathus control

Keyboard: Roccat Isku illuminated

Headshet: Steelseries Siberia v/2
493
#493
2 Frags +

#491
To only get 100+ fps at that budget something would have to go terribly wrong, 200+ fps is a more realistic goal.

Reusing any SSDs/HDDs or PSU?
How much storage space do you need?
Overclocking yes/no?
I'm having a hard time filling that budget.

Basic build for TF2/CS:GO would look like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($231.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.40 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $625.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-24 11:24 EDT-0400

Unless you're playing on really high settings I can't justify a better GPU.
I mean I could throw in an 4790K and the usual overclocking shenanigans.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VFBbzy

Or even SLI capability
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yj3bzy

It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

#491
To only get 100+ fps at that budget something would have to go terribly wrong, 200+ fps is a more realistic goal.

Reusing any SSDs/HDDs or PSU?
How much storage space do you need?
Overclocking yes/no?
I'm having a hard time filling that budget.

Basic build for TF2/CS:GO would look like this:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mbWDVn]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mbWDVn/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($231.95 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($62.10 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-996988s]Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($47.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120bx100ssd1]Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($59.40 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9280atdbd]XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card[/url] ($149.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210e001]NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (Purchased For $0.00)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500]Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $625.52
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-24 11:24 EDT-0400[/i]

Unless you're playing on really high settings I can't justify a better GPU.
I mean I could throw in an 4790K and the usual overclocking shenanigans.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VFBbzy

Or even SLI capability
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yj3bzy

It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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#494
0 Frags +
Setsul#491
To only get 100+ fps at that budget something would have to go terribly wrong, 200+ fps is a more realistic goal.

Reusing any SSDs/HDDs or PSU?
How much storage space do you need?
Overclocking yes/no?
I'm having a hard time filling that budget.

Basic build for TF2/CS:GO would look like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($231.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($62.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.40 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $625.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-24 11:24 EDT-0400

Unless you're playing on really high settings I can't justify a better GPU.
I mean I could throw in an 4790K and the usual overclocking shenanigans.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VFBbzy

Or even SLI capability
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yj3bzy

It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I don't know much about computers just been playing on a bad computer these days getting a very little frames an average of 20 frames, I would in the future play a game like gta 5 or battle field so maybe instead id want a build to play those games instead and I don't think I'd overclock but no I'm not Reusing anything its a brand new build completely.. sorry for not making any sense lol

[quote=Setsul]#491
To only get 100+ fps at that budget something would have to go terribly wrong, 200+ fps is a more realistic goal.

Reusing any SSDs/HDDs or PSU?
How much storage space do you need?
Overclocking yes/no?
I'm having a hard time filling that budget.

Basic build for TF2/CS:GO would look like this:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mbWDVn]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mbWDVn/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($231.95 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($62.10 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-996988s]Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($47.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120bx100ssd1]Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($59.40 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9280atdbd]XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card[/url] ($149.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210e001]NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (Purchased For $0.00)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500]Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $625.52
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-24 11:24 EDT-0400[/i]

Unless you're playing on really high settings I can't justify a better GPU.
I mean I could throw in an 4790K and the usual overclocking shenanigans.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VFBbzy

Or even SLI capability
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yj3bzy

It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.[/quote]
I don't know much about computers just been playing on a bad computer these days getting a very little frames an average of 20 frames, I would in the future play a game like gta 5 or battle field so maybe instead id want a build to play those games instead and I don't think I'd overclock but no I'm not Reusing anything its a brand new build completely.. sorry for not making any sense lol
495
#495
2 Frags +

For GTA5 and BF a better GPU would actually make sense.
Bigger SSD aswell because why not.
Better (because I love good PSUs) and fully modular PSU (because it makes building so much easier).
Since you got a Mid Tower and a good PSU now anyway I changed the motherboard so you could in theory go SLI in the future. It's unlikely but it's a good mobo and 10$ isn't that much.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($231.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($87.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $781.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-24 17:38 EDT-0400

For GTA5 and BF a better GPU would actually make sense.
Bigger SSD aswell because why not.
Better (because I love good PSUs) and fully modular PSU (because it makes building so much easier).
Since you got a Mid Tower and a good PSU now anyway I changed the motherboard so you could in theory go SLI in the future. It's unlikely but it's a good mobo and 10$ isn't that much.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QZb8qs]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QZb8qs/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($231.95 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87a]Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-996988s]Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($47.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct250bx100ssd1]Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($87.30 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($44.10 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr92904gbd5ppdhe]PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card[/url] ($229.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210e001]NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (Purchased For $0.00)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220gs0650v1]EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Total:[/b] $781.31
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-24 17:38 EDT-0400[/i]
496
#496
0 Frags +

ummm,I visited some shops in my city recently and I found a computer which sells this rig with the following specs:
CPU: Intel i5-4460 quad-core processor (3.2 GHz-3.4 GHz)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G
Memory:4GB kingstons DDR3 1600MHz (4GB x 1)
Storage: 1000GBs
Video Card: Gigabyte GTX 960 2GB
Case:Some generic micro atx case(this thing
Power Supply:Some 500W power supply (from the same brand as the case)
It's only about 600 bucks,is it a good deal? Thanks for advance.

EDIT: forgot that it has an DVD drive as well.

ummm,I visited some shops in my city recently and I found a computer which sells this rig with the following specs:
CPU: Intel i5-4460 quad-core processor (3.2 GHz-3.4 GHz)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G
Memory:4GB kingstons DDR3 1600MHz (4GB x 1)
Storage: 1000GBs
Video Card: Gigabyte GTX 960 2GB
Case:Some generic micro atx case([url=http://www.gtr.com.hk/case/mini_tower/c725/c725.htm#thumb]this thing[/url]
Power Supply:Some 500W power supply (from the same brand as the case)
It's only about 600 bucks,is it a good deal? Thanks for advance.

EDIT: forgot that it has an DVD drive as well.
497
#497
1 Frags +

It's not too bad, at least not one of those retarded 4770K + H81 + GT740 pre-builts.
It still suffers three of the usual pre-built problems:
No SSD.
Shitty case.
Shitty PSU.

I have no idea about the prices in Hong Kong though, could you link me an online shop?
Going by US prices it's ok-ish. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VVTpLk
But it could be done better, especially if you build it yourself (no labor cost). http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k3XJD3

It's not too bad, at least not one of those retarded 4770K + H81 + GT740 pre-builts.
It still suffers three of the usual pre-built problems:
No SSD.
Shitty case.
Shitty PSU.

I have no idea about the prices in Hong Kong though, could you link me an online shop?
Going by US prices it's ok-ish. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VVTpLk
But it could be done better, especially if you build it yourself (no labor cost). http://pcpartpicker.com/p/k3XJD3
498
#498
0 Frags +

Hey so I have a midly strange situation

    *My current build is from 2010/2011 dec/jan +an SSD from July 2014
    *I want to turn my current build into a mediaserver/netflix box (undervolt and under clock everything etc)
    *I own a 120hz monitor, I want to get 241+ fps in TF2, CSGO, and Dota 2 at 1680x1050 on my new build, not afraid of and not a stranger to overclocking or specialty cooling
    *I have no other requirements for my new system, all I will do with it is play these three games. No budget but want to keep it low as possible

My current build is:
CPU: Phenom II x6 1090T OC'd between ~3.6ghz and ~4.2ghz depending on time of year because no AC
MB: MSI 890FXA-GD65 (MS-7640)
RAM: G.Skill RAM : 8192 MB DDR3 Dual Channel 666.7 MHz (3:10) @ 7-7-7-21
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F1 1tb
Storage: Crucial MX100 240gb
GPU Radeon HD 6850 1gb
Case: Coolermaster HAF 912
PSU: Corsair TX 750W

My vision is reusing the SSD, PSU, case, (and maybe RAM, I don't know if there have been advances in RAM since I bought mine, CL7 is nice to have in a gaming PC over a server I think) in the new system, and replacing them in the old build with something cheap and more appropriate for a media server ex. more efficent and lower power PSU, smaller case, slower RAM, foregoing an SSD. I'm not sure if I could reuse my GPU, but I have the feeling it couldn't keep up with a new processor as it is nearly 5 years old.

TL;DR recommend me an efficient PSU, ATX case, and RAM to go in my soon to be server PC, and a CPU, GPU, MB combo to go in my "new" PC

I don't care if the server ends up having more raw powerf than my new system for general computing, all I want are silky smooth frames.

Hey so I have a midly strange situation

[list]
*My current build is from 2010/2011 dec/jan +an SSD from July 2014
*I want to turn my current build into a mediaserver/netflix box (undervolt and under clock everything etc)
*I own a 120hz monitor, I want to get 241+ fps in TF2, CSGO, and Dota 2 at 1680x1050 on my new build, not afraid of and not a stranger to overclocking or specialty cooling
*I have no other requirements for my new system, all I will do with it is play these three games. No budget but want to keep it low as possible
[/list]

My current build is:
[b]CPU:[/b] Phenom II x6 1090T OC'd between ~3.6ghz and ~4.2ghz depending on time of year because no AC
[b]MB:[/b] MSI 890FXA-GD65 (MS-7640)
[b]RAM:[/b] G.Skill RAM : 8192 MB DDR3 Dual Channel 666.7 MHz (3:10) @ 7-7-7-21
[b]Storage:[/b] Samsung Spinpoint F1 1tb
[b]Storage:[/b] Crucial MX100 240gb
[b]GPU[/b] Radeon HD 6850 1gb
[b]Case:[/b] Coolermaster HAF 912
[b]PSU:[/b] Corsair TX 750W

My vision is reusing the SSD, PSU, case, (and maybe RAM, I don't know if there have been advances in RAM since I bought mine, CL7 is nice to have in a gaming PC over a server I think) in the new system, and replacing them in the old build with something cheap and more appropriate for a media server ex. more efficent and lower power PSU, smaller case, slower RAM, foregoing an SSD. I'm not sure if I could reuse my GPU, but I have the feeling it couldn't keep up with a new processor as it is nearly 5 years old.

TL;DR recommend me an efficient PSU, ATX case, and RAM to go in my soon to be server PC, and a CPU, GPU, MB combo to go in my "new" PC

I don't care if the server ends up having more raw powerf than my new system for general computing, all I want are silky smooth frames.
499
#499
3 Frags +

How exactly are you going to use the media server?
And where do you want to put it?
Because small and efficient isn't going to happen with an ATX mobo, a 125W CPU and a 125W GPU. Sure you can undervolt and underclock them, but even with a PSU with 100% efficiency you're still not going to beat a 10-20W integrated board and any PSU. Also no point in getting slower RAM, it'd be too hard to find.

You'll also need to be a bit more specific about the performance. With no budget it's the only thing to go on and barely 240fps on minimum settings with an fps config in 6s has a lot lower requirements than 240+ fps at all times on max settings in a full pub server.

Model number for the PSU would be helpful. Because there's 4 versions.
CMPSU-750TX, 80Plus, CWT, barely passes ATX spec
CMPSU-750TX-C, 80Plus Bronze, CWT aswell
CMPSU-750TXv2, 80Plus Bronze, Seasonic and actually decent
TX750, 80Plus Bronze, CPT, complete wildcard, no reviews, platform is unkown, but I highly doubt that it's amazing.

How exactly are you going to use the media server?
And where do you want to put it?
Because small and efficient isn't going to happen with an ATX mobo, a 125W CPU and a 125W GPU. Sure you can undervolt and underclock them, but even with a PSU with 100% efficiency you're still not going to beat a 10-20W integrated board and any PSU. Also no point in getting slower RAM, it'd be too hard to find.

You'll also need to be a bit more specific about the performance. With no budget it's the only thing to go on and barely 240fps on minimum settings with an fps config in 6s has a lot lower requirements than 240+ fps at all times on max settings in a full pub server.

Model number for the PSU would be helpful. Because there's 4 versions.
CMPSU-750TX, 80Plus, CWT, barely passes ATX spec
CMPSU-750TX-C, 80Plus Bronze, CWT aswell
CMPSU-750TXv2, 80Plus Bronze, Seasonic and actually decent
TX750, 80Plus Bronze, CPT, complete wildcard, no reviews, platform is unkown, but I highly doubt that it's amazing.
500
#500
0 Frags +

#498

The GPU and the CPU is about the same price of the price in US

Also where can I get windows 7 for a cheap price?

#498

The GPU and the CPU is about the same price of the price in US

Also where can I get windows 7 for a cheap price?
501
#501
0 Frags +
Setsul#500

The power bill is not a concern, the undervolting and underclocking would be more for limiting the noise the fans make. Maybe even trying to go fan-less, but that's a discussion for another day, not a concern at the moment. If you think turning my old build into the server is not worthwhile, I'm fine if you only recommend parts towards my new build, as that is what is more important to me.

Sorry for my ambiguity in my performance requirements. I want to get 240+fps using minimum graphics configs and 1680x1050 resolution in 9v9 TF2, 10v10 CSGO, and 5v5 Dota2. I usually only play 6v6 in TF2 and 5v5 in CSGO but I figure setting the bar at 9v9 and 10v10 means I'll still be able to play dm and surf enjoyably.

I've had two 750TX, the first one died on me in the middle of the summer (thankfully didn't damage anything) so I sent it in to Corsair and they sent me back a free 750TXv2. A blessing in disguise now that I look back on it?

[quote=Setsul]#500[/quote]
The power bill is not a concern, the undervolting and underclocking would be more for limiting the noise the fans make. Maybe even trying to go fan-less, but that's a discussion for another day, not a concern at the moment. If you think turning my old build into the server is not worthwhile, I'm fine if you only recommend parts towards my new build, as that is what is more important to me.

Sorry for my ambiguity in my performance requirements. I want to get 240+fps using minimum graphics configs and 1680x1050 resolution in 9v9 TF2, 10v10 CSGO, and 5v5 Dota2. I usually only play 6v6 in TF2 and 5v5 in CSGO but I figure setting the bar at 9v9 and 10v10 means I'll still be able to play dm and surf enjoyably.

I've had two 750TX, the first one died on me in the middle of the summer (thankfully didn't damage anything) so I sent it in to Corsair and they sent me back a free 750TXv2. A blessing in disguise now that I look back on it?
502
#502
3 Frags +

#501
In that case my recommendation is building it yourself, if possible.

No idea regarding windows, sorry.

#502
That would've been my point, for 50$ you could go fanless and at least µATX, ECC RAM if you wanted to and so on. Phenom is just the complete opposite of what you'd want for a media server and no undervolting is going to change that.

The PSU should definitely be ok then, I guess you see why I don't trust the other 3 versions.

This is as low as I'd go:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $374.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-29 06:03 EDT-0400

It should get you enough fps, but just barely. So worst case TF2 spazzing out and you might get a CPU bound drop, 10v10 CS:GO worst case and you might get a GPU bound drop. With quite a bit of buffer (you never know when the next "performance" update hits) it would look like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $466.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-29 06:06 EDT-0400

#501
In that case my recommendation is building it yourself, if possible.

No idea regarding windows, sorry.

#502
That would've been my point, for 50$ you could go fanless and at least µATX, ECC RAM if you wanted to and so on. Phenom is just the complete opposite of what you'd want for a media server and no undervolting is going to change that.

The PSU should definitely be ok then, I guess you see why I don't trust the other 3 versions.

This is as low as I'd go:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pfwDVn]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pfwDVn/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590]Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($189.95 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85anniversary]ASRock B85 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($59.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100364l]Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card[/url] ($124.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $374.92
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-29 06:03 EDT-0400[/i]

It should get you enough fps, but just barely. So worst case TF2 spazzing out and you might get a CPU bound drop, 10v10 CS:GO worst case and you might get a GPU bound drop. With quite a bit of buffer (you never know when the next "performance" update hits) it would look like this:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hp62GX]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hp62GX/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87a]Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr92803gbd5t2dheoc]PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card[/url] ($149.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $466.92
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-29 06:06 EDT-0400[/i]
503
#503
0 Frags +
Setsul#503 RE:#502

What was the motivation for switching from a B85 to a Z87 MB for the second build? As far as I know the Xeon isn't able to be OCed, I don't plan on running Xfire or SLI, and I don't see a major difference between the two boards otherwise.

[quote=Setsul]#503 RE:#502[/quote]
What was the motivation for switching from a B85 to a Z87 MB for the second build? As far as I know the Xeon isn't able to be OCed, I don't plan on running Xfire or SLI, and I don't see a major difference between the two boards otherwise.
504
#504
1 Frags +

Would've gone for H97 for the usual reasons, but what's the point of going full ATX if you don't even get 2*x8. No one needs 4 x1 slots. Doesn't hurt that the PSU would allow for SLI/Xfire aswell.

If you want to save 10$ go mATX.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $456.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-29 12:07 EDT-0400

Another option would be the Z87-Pro for features.

Would've gone for H97 for the usual reasons, but what's the point of going full ATX if you don't even get 2*x8. No one needs 4 x1 slots. Doesn't hurt that the PSU would allow for SLI/Xfire aswell.

If you want to save 10$ go mATX.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qWf2GX]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qWf2GX/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr92803gbd5t2dheoc]PowerColor Radeon R9 280 3GB TurboDuo Video Card[/url] ($149.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $456.93
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-29 12:07 EDT-0400[/i]

Another option would be the Z87-Pro for features.
505
#505
0 Frags +

Hi Folks!

Id like to upgrade my Video card on my current setup and i have 350$ maximum to upgrade for a good GPU that i could transfer over another system in case this one fail in the next 2 years.

I bought this PC in September 2011.

Here is my current setup.

I ask advice because im unsure of the compatibility with my current motherboard and other stuff.

CPU : Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
GPU : 1023MB GeForce GTX 560 (ASUStek Computer Inc)
Motherboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8P67 DELUXE (LGA1155)
Memory : 8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz
Harddrive : 932GB Western Digital WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 ATA Device (SATA)
Powersupply : Coolermaster 1000W silent gold
Case : Coolermaster HAF 932 advanced

Should i just wait for it to break or whatever and get a new combo in 1-2 years? (Motherboard, CPU, GPU) ?

Thanks for advice.

Hi Folks!

Id like to upgrade my Video card on my current setup and i have 350$ maximum to upgrade for a good GPU that i could transfer over another system in case this one fail in the next 2 years.

I bought this PC in September 2011.

Here is my current setup.

I ask advice because im unsure of the compatibility with my current motherboard and other stuff.

CPU : Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.40GHz Sandy Bridge 32nm Technology
GPU : 1023MB GeForce GTX 560 (ASUStek Computer Inc)
Motherboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8P67 DELUXE (LGA1155)
Memory : 8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz
Harddrive : 932GB Western Digital WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 ATA Device (SATA)
Powersupply : Coolermaster 1000W silent gold
Case : Coolermaster HAF 932 advanced

[b]Should i just wait for it to break or whatever and get a new combo in 1-2 years? (Motherboard, CPU, GPU) ?[/b]

Thanks for advice.
506
#506
0 Frags +

Thanks, but since I'll be building this rig myself, there's one more thing to decide on:
GTX 960 or r9 280???

Thanks, but since I'll be building this rig myself, there's one more thing to decide on:
GTX 960 or r9 280???
507
#507
3 Frags +

#506
Any GPU is compatible with any motherboard, you don't need to worry about that.

However you shouldn't upgrade just to upgrade.
Do you want/need more fps? No -> don't upgrade, save yourself that money.
If yes, which games and how many fps? Then if it's your GPU that's limiting the fps, pick one that'll get you enough fps, don't spend all the money you have, just because you can.

Even though my eye started twitching a little when I looked at the PSU I don't expect that system to fail anytime soon.

#507
280 should simply be much cheaper. 285 or 280X are also worth a thought, if there's one on sale.

#506
Any GPU is compatible with any motherboard, you don't need to worry about that.

However you shouldn't upgrade just to upgrade.
Do you want/need more fps? No -> don't upgrade, save yourself that money.
If yes, which games and how many fps? Then if it's your GPU that's limiting the fps, pick one that'll get you enough fps, don't spend all the money you have, just because you can.

Even though my eye started twitching a little when I looked at the PSU I don't expect that system to fail anytime soon.

#507
280 should simply be much cheaper. 285 or 280X are also worth a thought, if there's one on sale.
508
#508
0 Frags +

Hello, im looking to build a brand new pc for a budget of £800-900

Performance goals: High Fps games such as TF2 (using a fps config) Not sure what a realistic fps is for spending £800-900 but 400+ would be nice and CSGO (300+?). Also able to play games such as GTA V.

Already have peripherals and a monitor sorted this is just for the actual tower.

I tried putting together a build its probably pretty shit any feedback is appreciated

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/jFyCP6

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: *Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.34 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.46 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£129.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£51.62 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£68.51 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.14 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card (£277.14 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.19 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.06 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £861.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-05 13:26 BST+0100

Hello, im looking to build a brand new pc for a budget of £800-900


Performance goals: High Fps games such as TF2 (using a fps config) Not sure what a realistic fps is for spending £800-900 but 400+ would be nice and CSGO (300+?). Also able to play games such as GTA V.




Already have peripherals and a monitor sorted this is just for the actual tower.

I tried putting together a build its probably pretty shit any feedback is appreciated


http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/jFyCP6


[url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/jFyCP6]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/jFyCP6/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] *[url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k]Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£176.34 @ Aria PC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14]Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] (£57.46 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3hbk]Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] (£129.99 @ Ebuyer)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m2a2133c11r]Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory[/url] (£51.62 @ Ebuyer)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct250bx100ssd1]Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£68.51 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£41.14 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-strixgtx970dc2oc4gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card[/url] (£277.14 @ Aria PC)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r]Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (£49.19 @ Aria PC)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-hx650]Corsair Professional 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url]
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe]Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer[/url] (£10.06 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Total:[/b] £861.45
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-05 13:26 BST+0100[/i]
509
#509
-2 Frags +
DEXTROMORGANERINO

Are you planning on overclocking? With a CPU cooler and motherboard of that quality, you should be able to and get some extra preformance for little to no power cost

Most of the stuff you're using looks really solid. I really like the Corsair 200R, as it's REALLY big and clean looking as well as actually being able to fit the monster 970. The corsair PSU's are some of the best on the market right now, and 8 gigs of memory should be more than enough. The 970 is a solid card, but it's really long/large, so people buying it should have a decent idea of if their case is big enough to house it (yours is). The intel i5, in my experience with mine, is a solid processor. If you wanted to go with a Third gen i5 to save some money, it wouldn't take that much of a toll on your performance (some of the big differences between the ivy bridge and haswell generations are optimization for tablets/laptops and better integrated graphics). However, if money isn't an issue, you should just stick with the 4th gen.
Also, it's a good idea to get both an SSD and a hard drive. The western digital is a solid drive, but if you want significantly better preformance for a <50£ difference, you should go with the Samsung 850 evo. The userbenchmark should pretty much explain it easily.

Your setup should be able to run both tf2 and cs:go at max framerate, with very little in terms of fluctuations. From what I've read (I have no experience with the 970 myself) it runs GTA at high/ultra settings just below 60 FPS, which means that you could easily bump it up to 75 or more with lower settings

I like your setup and I wish I had chosen the same stuff as you when I made my build

[quote=DEXTROMORGANERINO][/quote]

Are you planning on overclocking? With a CPU cooler and motherboard of that quality, you should be able to and get some extra preformance for little to no power cost

Most of the stuff you're using looks really solid. I really like the Corsair 200R, as it's REALLY big and clean looking as well as actually being able to fit the monster 970. The corsair PSU's are some of the best on the market right now, and 8 gigs of memory should be more than enough. The 970 is a solid card, but it's really long/large, so people buying it should have a decent idea of if their case is big enough to house it (yours is). The intel i5, in my experience with mine, is a solid processor. If you wanted to go with a [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k]Third gen i5[/url] to save some money, it wouldn't take that much of a toll on your performance (some of the big differences between the ivy bridge and haswell generations are optimization for tablets/laptops and better integrated graphics). However, if money isn't an issue, you should just stick with the 4th gen.
Also, it's a good idea to get both an SSD and a hard drive. The western digital is a solid drive, but if you want [url=http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-250GB-vs-Crucial-BX100-250GB/2977vs3145]significantly better preformance[/url] for a <50£ difference, you should go with the Samsung 850 evo. The userbenchmark should pretty much explain it easily.

Your setup should be able to run both tf2 and cs:go at max framerate, with very little in terms of fluctuations. From what I've read (I have no experience with the 970 myself) it runs GTA at high/ultra settings just below 60 FPS, which means that you could easily bump it up to 75 or more with lower settings

I like your setup and I wish I had chosen the same stuff as you when I made my build
510
#510
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#509
Imho overclocking isn't worth it.
The fps shouldn't be a problem.

mATX:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£198.62 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£56.24 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£45.77 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£77.90 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£269.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£33.54 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: be quiet! 400W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£39.98 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.06 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £769.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-05 16:12 BST+0100

ATX:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£198.62 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£57.77 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£45.77 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£77.90 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (£269.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case (£33.29 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: be quiet! 400W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£39.98 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.06 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £771.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-05 16:12 BST+0100

#510
That's not how overclocking works. You can build coolers and mobos with unicorn tears and the power consumption would increase just like it would without unicorn tears.

Please just shut up about Corsair PSUs. I'm getting tired of repeating this. Corsair doesn't manufacture any PSUs. They don't design them either. They're not doing any QC or testing. Everything is done by an OEM, Corsair has no influence whatsoever on the performance or build quality. The only thing they control is the price. And guess what, they're overpriced. Back in the day they used to sell CWT and Seasonic built units. The CWTs were very cheap, but ok and the Seasonic ones were really good (it's Seasonic afterall) and they sold them at the same or slightly lower prices than Seasonic themselves.
That's how they got their reputation. And then they got greedy. They are now trying to sell CWT units at higher prices than Seasonic and SuperFlower PSUs that beat them at every single measurement imaginable. They managed to put a PSU on the market that needed two revisions before it even worked.
Recommending an older, slower CPU that's more expensive to save money? Great advice!
There's no way you're going to justify a 50£ difference for 16% more effective speed. It's on sale in the UK right now, but in the US where it's 25% more expensive or whenever the budget actually matters, it's just not a good idea.

#509
Imho overclocking isn't worth it.
The fps shouldn't be a problem.

mATX:
[url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RzDWLk]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/RzDWLk/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£198.62 @ More Computers)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85mpro4]ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] (£56.24 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-blt2k4g3d1608et3lx0]Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] (£45.77 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£77.90 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£37.80 @ Aria PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx970gaming4g]MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card[/url] (£269.99 @ Aria PC)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (£33.54 @ Aria PC)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/be-quiet-power-supply-bn222]be quiet! 400W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] (£39.98 @ Novatech)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe]Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer[/url] (£10.06 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Total:[/b] £769.90
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-05 16:12 BST+0100[/i]

ATX:
[url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/vF2yrH]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/vF2yrH/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£198.62 @ More Computers)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97anniversary]ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] (£57.77 @ Scan.co.uk)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-blt2k4g3d1608et3lx0]Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] (£45.77 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£77.90 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£37.80 @ Aria PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx970gaming4g]MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card[/url] (£269.99 @ Aria PC)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse300kkn1]Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (£33.29 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/be-quiet-power-supply-bn222]be quiet! 400W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] (£39.98 @ Novatech)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe]Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer[/url] (£10.06 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Total:[/b] £771.18
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-05 16:12 BST+0100[/i]

#510
That's not how overclocking works. You can build coolers and mobos with unicorn tears and the power consumption would increase just like it would without unicorn tears.

Please just shut up about Corsair PSUs. I'm getting tired of repeating this. Corsair doesn't manufacture any PSUs. They don't design them either. They're not doing any QC or testing. Everything is done by an OEM, Corsair has no influence whatsoever on the performance or build quality. The only thing they control is the price. And guess what, they're overpriced. Back in the day they used to sell CWT and Seasonic built units. The CWTs were very cheap, but ok and the Seasonic ones were really good (it's Seasonic afterall) and they sold them at the same or slightly lower prices than Seasonic themselves.
That's how they got their reputation. And then they got greedy. They are now trying to sell CWT units at higher prices than Seasonic and SuperFlower PSUs that beat them at every single measurement imaginable. They managed to put a PSU on the market that needed two revisions before it even worked.
Recommending an older, slower CPU that's more expensive to save money? Great advice!
There's no way you're going to justify a 50£ difference for 16% more effective speed. It's on sale in the UK right now, but in the US where it's 25% more expensive or whenever the budget actually matters, it's just not a good idea.
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