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OFFICIAL DREAMHACK WINTER THREAD
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#61
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fuck i dont want to sleep now.

if there is more it really hurts the scene :/

fuck i dont want to sleep now.

if there is more it really hurts the scene :/
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#62
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tarik now has all his items back. looks like he was trolling.

tarik now has all his items back. looks like he was trolling.
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#63
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lamefxtarik now has all his items back. looks like he was trolling.

his more expensive items are still gone

[quote=lamefx]tarik now has all his items back. looks like he was trolling.[/quote]

his more expensive items are still gone
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#64
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you're right, its mostly cases and shitty skins. no knives.

you're right, its mostly cases and shitty skins. no knives.
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#65
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sf's inventory and his own account is expensive, doesnt he have a 2 digit id like 17 or 18?

sf's inventory and his own account is expensive, doesnt he have a 2 digit id like 17 or 18?
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#66
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well now that all the top players are leaving the scene, its time to enter the world of csgo

well now that all the top players are leaving the scene, its time to enter the world of csgo
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#67
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I find the most ridiculous part is that they integrated the hack directly into steam cloud. That's some amazing shit, kudos to the hack maker.

Hope the hackers enjoy their VACation though. I wonder how long that shit has plagued the scene, they've basically fucked over so many people. I hope it doesn't kill 1/4 of DH.

I find the most ridiculous part is that they integrated the hack directly into steam cloud. That's some amazing shit, kudos to the hack maker.

Hope the hackers enjoy their VACation though. I wonder how long that shit has plagued the scene, they've basically fucked over so many people. I hope it doesn't kill 1/4 of DH.
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#68
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LDLC > Everyone

LDLC > Everyone
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#69
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hitheresf's inventory and his own account is expensive, doesnt he have a 2 digit id like 17 or 18?

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[quote=hithere]sf's inventory and his own account is expensive, doesnt he have a 2 digit id like 17 or 18?[/quote]
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#70
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I feel bad for ScreaM right now.

He really got fucked over

I feel bad for ScreaM right now.

He really got fucked over
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#71
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MOOSE_LDLC > Everyone

Looking pretty bad when kioshima's inventory is empty, if he goes LDLC also goes

[quote=MOOSE_]LDLC > Everyone[/quote]
Looking pretty bad when kioshima's inventory is empty, if he goes LDLC also goes
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#72
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rQwireMOOSE_LDLC > EveryoneLooking pretty bad when kioshima's inventory is empty, if he goes LDLC also goes

I believe there are already multiple french teams DQ'd from DHW.

So that sucks.

[quote=rQwire][quote=MOOSE_]LDLC > Everyone[/quote]
Looking pretty bad when kioshima's inventory is empty, if he goes LDLC also goes[/quote]

I believe there are already multiple french teams DQ'd from DHW.

So that sucks.
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#73
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looks like nip's gonna win it after all

looks like nip's gonna win it after all
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#74
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Fnatic, c9, and VP still exist.

Fnatic, c9, and VP still exist.
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#75
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LDLC is the only remaining French team out of the 3, things are not looking good. Man at this point don't know who to trust anymore, JW from fnatic is looking pretty sketchy :/

LDLC is the only remaining French team out of the 3, things are not looking good. Man at this point don't know who to trust anymore, JW from fnatic is looking pretty sketchy :/
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#76
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rQwireLDLC is the only remaining French team out of the 3, things are not looking good. Man at this point don't know who to trust anymore, JW from fnatic is looking pretty sketchy :/

lol

and kioshima emptied his bp to his gf's acc and changed his twitter profile

[quote=rQwire]LDLC is the only remaining French team out of the 3, things are not looking good. Man at this point don't know who to trust anymore, JW from fnatic is looking pretty sketchy :/[/quote]
lol

and kioshima emptied his bp to his gf's acc and changed his twitter profile
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#77
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rQwireLDLC is the only remaining French team out of the 3, things are not looking good. Man at this point don't know who to trust anymore, JW from fnatic is looking pretty sketchy :/

So had KQLY not been VAC banned I would have said "some of his shots can be chalked up to 16-tick GOTV demos and luck" but his VAC ban makes me question some of the shots he's been shown to have pulled off.

It's also making me be alittle suspicious of olofmeister, especially over this play. It still suffers from the 16-tick problem but it is must still look pretty insane at 128 tick.

http://fragbite.se/fragtv/video/1952/olofm-vs-navi

jw wouldn't surprise me either since he played on a team that was disqualified before for hacking, and probably hacked himself in the past.

[quote=rQwire]LDLC is the only remaining French team out of the 3, things are not looking good. Man at this point don't know who to trust anymore, JW from fnatic is looking pretty sketchy :/[/quote]

So had KQLY not been VAC banned I would have said "some of his shots can be chalked up to 16-tick GOTV demos and luck" but his VAC ban makes me question some of the shots he's been shown to have pulled off.

It's also making me be alittle suspicious of olofmeister, especially over this play. It still suffers from the 16-tick problem but it is must still look pretty insane at 128 tick.

http://fragbite.se/fragtv/video/1952/olofm-vs-navi

jw wouldn't surprise me either since he played on a team that was disqualified before for hacking, and probably hacked himself in the past.
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#78
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#79
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marmadukeGRYLLSso wait have niggas been cheating on lan?

It's possible

A big problem is that there's little supervision on stage, and having it in Steam Cloud or on a USB makes for easy transfer. So some people could be hacking on lan and one of the most suspicious KQLY clips I've seen was on lan iirc

That being said smn (from ALTERNATE and also the first guy who got ESEA then VAC banned for this cheat) had atrocious stats on lan while his online performance was incredible, I think i saw one that was like a 30-bomb with 80% hs on mirage, and an 80-bomb for the whole bo3. So he at least probably wasn't hacking on lan

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]so wait have niggas been cheating on lan?[/quote]
It's possible

A big problem is that there's little supervision on stage, and having it in Steam Cloud or on a USB makes for easy transfer. So some people could be hacking on lan and one of the most suspicious KQLY clips I've seen was on lan iirc

That being said smn (from ALTERNATE and also the first guy who got ESEA then VAC banned for this cheat) had atrocious stats on lan while his online performance was incredible, I think i saw one that was like a 30-bomb with 80% hs on mirage, and an 80-bomb for the whole bo3. So he at least probably wasn't hacking on lan
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#80
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shit man ive been convinced that at least a few of the top players have shit loaded onto their mice with a panic button on the keyboard or some crazy shit like that for a whileeeeeeeeeeeee now.

welcome2cs

shit man ive been convinced that at least a few of the top players have shit loaded onto their mice with a panic button on the keyboard or some crazy shit like that for a whileeeeeeeeeeeee now.


welcome2cs
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#81
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TurinFnatic, c9, and VP still exist.

c9 yes unless they choke, they need hiko, shroud and nothing to play well if they want to win

VP are so inconsistent, either they're top 1/2 or they lose to awful teams

Fnatic also didn't participate in an online league because the "members were taking a vacation for now", guess we now know in what way that was meant :)))
either jw, krimz and/or olof vac incoming

[quote=Turin]Fnatic, c9, and VP still exist.[/quote]
c9 yes unless they choke, they need hiko, shroud and nothing to play well if they want to win

VP are so inconsistent, either they're top 1/2 or they lose to awful teams

Fnatic also didn't participate in an online league because the "members were taking a vacation for now", guess we now know in what way that was meant :)))
either jw, krimz and/or olof vac incoming
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#82
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TurinFnatic, c9, and VP still exist.

There's a very low chance of Fnatic having their current starting five end up at DHW with that roster.

JW, Krimz, and Olof have all had massive hackusations in the past, and this recent fiasco seems to be bringing up even more questioning surrounding them.

Edit - JW and Olof especially already have pretty convincing evidence surrounding them.

[quote=Turin]Fnatic, c9, and VP still exist.[/quote]

There's a very low chance of Fnatic having their current starting five end up at DHW with that roster.

JW, Krimz, and Olof have all had massive hackusations in the past, and this recent fiasco seems to be bringing up even more questioning surrounding them.

Edit - JW and Olof especially already have pretty convincing evidence surrounding them.
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#83
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smn said on his stream that the list of pros hacking did come from him he just didn't want everyone to know.

i think that unless VAC or some other anti cheat actually kicks in people are going to have to assume to be innocent.

it's a really really shitty situation going on atm and it's going to put a real cloud over dh

smn said on his stream that the list of pros hacking did come from him he just didn't want everyone to know.

i think that unless VAC or some other anti cheat actually kicks in people are going to have to assume to be innocent.

it's a really really shitty situation going on atm and it's going to put a real cloud over dh
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#84
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To replace the two French teams, a LAN qualifier will take place on Saturday at Inferno Online Stockholm with four Europeans teams in attendance, all of whom will be flown by Valve itself.

Now that's esports.

[quote]To replace the two French teams, a LAN qualifier will take place on Saturday at Inferno Online Stockholm with four Europeans teams in attendance, [b]all of whom will be flown by Valve itself[/b].[/quote]

Now that's esports.
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#85
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the list was originally made by rizla as far as i can tell, its all the people he originally accused of hacking a while ago

and from his story it seems like he knew the coder (steamid 17) sf (steamid 18) and kqly all used, but only suspected olof/jw/krimz because of their playstyle being similar to people who used the aimassist.

its possible a lot of fnatic use an aimassist, but i doubt its superex0's, and superex0's never would have been found out if it wasnt for the fact that he said no to the wrong autistic hacker so who knows what other cheats will go undetected.

the list was originally made by rizla as far as i can tell, its all the people he originally accused of hacking a while ago

and from his story it seems like he knew the coder (steamid 17) sf (steamid 18) and kqly all used, but only suspected olof/jw/krimz because of their playstyle being similar to people who used the aimassist.

its possible a lot of fnatic use an aimassist, but i doubt its superex0's, and superex0's never would have been found out if it wasnt for the fact that he said no to the wrong autistic hacker so who knows what other cheats will go undetected.
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#86
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How could a hack script get through steam cloud though? Isn't that monitored by VAC as well?

How could a hack script get through steam cloud though? Isn't that monitored by VAC as well?
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#87
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smn said the list was made by him.

http://i.imgur.com/98yKu8D.png

Can someone translate some german?

smn said the list was made by him.

http://i.imgur.com/98yKu8D.png

Can someone translate some german?
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#88
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UltrazHow could a hack script get through steam cloud though? Isn't that monitored by VAC as well?

You can't expect any anti cheat to be omniscient. Their's simply waaay to many variables.

[quote=Ultraz]How could a hack script get through steam cloud though? Isn't that monitored by VAC as well?[/quote]

You can't expect any anti cheat to be omniscient. Their's simply waaay to many variables.
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#89
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lamefxsmn said the list was made by him.

http://i.imgur.com/98yKu8D.png

Can someone translate some german?

smn said the list was made by him, and i dont doubt that he was the one that originally had the list added to the blog post on hltv, but understand that his list is the exact same as rizla's list from a year ago

smn is just throwing a fit. its pretty normal for someone caught cheating to make grandiose claims about it being more widespread than it is (smn said that 30%-40% of pros cheat) because thats how they rationalize it to themselves (I cheat because everyone else does)

he went from a nobody to a somebody of course hes going to milk it esp when he knows his time in the spotlight is gonna end pretty soon

[quote=lamefx]smn said the list was made by him.

http://i.imgur.com/98yKu8D.png

Can someone translate some german?[/quote]
smn said the list was made by him, and i dont doubt that he was the one that originally had the list added to the blog post on hltv, but understand that his list is the exact same as rizla's list from a year ago

smn is just throwing a fit. its pretty normal for someone caught cheating to make grandiose claims about it being more widespread than it is (smn said that 30%-40% of pros cheat) because thats how they rationalize it to themselves (I cheat because everyone else does)

he went from a nobody to a somebody of course hes going to milk it esp when he knows his time in the spotlight is gonna end pretty soon
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#90
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SchweppesTurinFnatic, c9, and VP still exist.c9 yes unless they choke, they need hiko, shroud and nothing to play well if they want to win

VP are so inconsistent, either they're top 1/2 or they lose to awful teams

Fnatic also didn't participate in an online league because the "members were taking a vacation for now", guess we now know in what way that was meant :)))
either jw, krimz and/or olof vac incoming

c9, they will do well if their players do well and don't choke. Every team ever is like that, thats how it works?
VP is inconsistent, but they already won 1 major, so why couldn't they step up and do it again?
fnatic is a good team and we shouldn't just assume they will get a banned player.

I said that because they haven't been banned yet. If they get banned of course, but they haven't been yet. Why should I just willy-nilly blame other teams? How do we know thats what they meant, or that fnatic have actually been putting a lot of work into the game recently and need a break? I'm going to be cautious but not on a witchhunt for cheaters.

You're simply mad because your country's best CS player can't play at DHW.

[quote=Schweppes][quote=Turin]Fnatic, c9, and VP still exist.[/quote]
c9 yes unless they choke, they need hiko, shroud and nothing to play well if they want to win

VP are so inconsistent, either they're top 1/2 or they lose to awful teams

Fnatic also didn't participate in an online league because the "members were taking a vacation for now", guess we now know in what way that was meant :)))
either jw, krimz and/or olof vac incoming[/quote]

c9, they will do well if their players do well and don't choke. Every team ever is like that, thats how it works?
VP is inconsistent, but they already won 1 major, so why couldn't they step up and do it again?
fnatic is a good team and we shouldn't just assume they will get a banned player.

I said that because they haven't been banned yet. If they get banned of course, but they haven't been yet. Why should I just willy-nilly blame other teams? How do we know thats what they meant, or that fnatic have actually been putting a lot of work into the game recently and need a break? I'm going to be cautious but not on a witchhunt for cheaters.

You're simply mad because your country's best CS player can't play at DHW.
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