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Should i disable full-screen optimisations?
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So apparently windows 10 forces borderless windowed mode even when you select fullscreen and you need to disable fullscreen optimisations on the program .exe

https://i.gyazo.com/164c512d7bb5770a3c3c9207db616d66.png

Is this fake news? or does this actually provide any preformance boost?

So apparently windows 10 forces borderless windowed mode even when you select fullscreen and you need to disable fullscreen optimisations on the program .exe
[img]https://i.gyazo.com/164c512d7bb5770a3c3c9207db616d66.png[/img]

Is this fake news? or does this actually provide any preformance boost?
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it will not affect your framerate at all, but will affect the delivery of frames to your display. frames will be passed directly and will no longer need to go through your window compositor (DWM) first. so it won't improve framerate, but it will improve frame latency and possible frame jitter.

that being said, windows 10's DWM is much better than previous windows versions, so the frame delay is nowhere near as bad as windowed/borderless in win7/8 was.

it will not affect your framerate at all, but will affect the delivery of frames to your display. frames will be passed directly and will no longer need to go through your window compositor (DWM) first. so it won't improve framerate, but it will improve frame latency and possible frame jitter.

that being said, windows 10's DWM is much better than previous windows versions, so the frame delay is nowhere near as bad as windowed/borderless in win7/8 was.
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I use a 2K HD Monitor but play TF2 in full HD. My game was unplayable until I turned full-screen optimisations off.
http://www.teamfortress.tv/45896/fps-capped-at-60-again

I use a 2K HD Monitor but play TF2 in full HD. My game was unplayable until I turned full-screen optimisations off.
http://www.teamfortress.tv/45896/fps-capped-at-60-again
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#4
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oh I gotta try this, my game has been running noticeably worse since the creators update. Will get back when ive tried it.

oh I gotta try this, my game has been running noticeably worse since the creators update. Will get back when ive tried it.
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yttriumit will not affect your framerate at all, but will affect the delivery of frames to your display. frames will be passed directly and will no longer need to go through your window compositor (DWM) first. so it won't improve framerate, but it will improve frame latency and possible frame jitter.

that being said, windows 10's DWM is much better than previous windows versions, so the frame delay is nowhere near as bad as windowed/borderless in win7/8 was.

this varies A LOT from PC to PC. If you're running fullscreen already i.e. not borderless window or windowed at all their is 0 reason to have DWM enabled other than shit frame times and microstutters.

for the most part yeah window 10 DWM is better than 7/8 but 7/8 had was more consistency across varying hardware.

[quote=yttrium]it will not affect your framerate at all, but will affect the delivery of frames to your display. frames will be passed directly and will no longer need to go through your window compositor (DWM) first. so it won't improve framerate, but it will improve frame latency and possible frame jitter.

that being said, windows 10's DWM is much better than previous windows versions, so the frame delay is nowhere near as bad as windowed/borderless in win7/8 was.[/quote]

this varies A LOT from PC to PC. If you're running fullscreen already i.e. not borderless window or windowed at all their is 0 reason to have DWM enabled other than shit frame times and microstutters.

for the most part yeah window 10 DWM is better than 7/8 but 7/8 had was more consistency across varying hardware.
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#6
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Can confirm my game definitely feels smoother after just a few mins of testing

Can confirm my game definitely feels smoother after just a few mins of testing
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#7
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where can i find that checkbox to turn this off

i've tried googling it and i cant get a straight answer

where can i find that checkbox to turn this off

i've tried googling it and i cant get a straight answer
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#8
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pagedMovwhere can i find that checkbox to turn this off

i've tried googling it and i cant get a straight answer

probably the tf2 exe > properties > compatability

edit: yea its hl2.exe in ur common folder

[quote=pagedMov]where can i find that checkbox to turn this off

i've tried googling it and i cant get a straight answer[/quote]
probably the tf2 exe > properties > compatability

edit: yea its hl2.exe in ur common folder
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#9
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cool thanks

cool thanks
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#10
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so are you in the clear if its all checked off ?

so are you in the clear if its all checked off ?
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after a day of playing with this i noticed i was getting overall smoother fps although i never benchmarked so it may be placebo

something interesting i did find though was that when my fps dipped, it dipped considerably much more, causing awful stutters and freezes.
i am using an fx 8350 processor (cringe i know)

personally that makes it unusable for me but i will play another day with it off and see if i still get stutters, but to be completely honest i don't think it matters too much whether or not it's enabled/disabled

after a day of playing with this i noticed i was getting overall smoother fps although i never benchmarked so it may be placebo

something interesting i did find though was that when my fps dipped, it dipped considerably much more, causing awful stutters and freezes.
i am using an fx 8350 processor (cringe i know)

personally that makes it unusable for me but i will play another day with it off and see if i still get stutters, but to be completely honest i don't think it matters too much whether or not it's enabled/disabled
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#12
1 Frags +

my game felt smoother but would stutter really badly when i had youtube playing in the background

my game felt smoother but would stutter really badly when i had youtube playing in the background
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#13
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tool that someone made on reddit https://skymirrh.github.io/CompatibilityManager/

tool that someone made on reddit https://skymirrh.github.io/CompatibilityManager/
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