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Average deaths for a roamer in a season?
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#1
0 Frags +

I averaged roughly 18.5 deaths last season on roamer and wondering what sort of benchmark is good for roamers?

although I understand this is kind of hard to give a good answer to as there are a lot of variables, I was just wondering what a good number to aim for? (although I imagine as little as possible while still being useful is probably correct?)

I averaged roughly 18.5 deaths last season on roamer and wondering what sort of benchmark is good for roamers?

although I understand this is kind of hard to give a good answer to as there are a lot of variables, I was just wondering what a good number to aim for? (although I imagine as little as possible while still being useful is probably correct?)
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#2
54 Frags +

If you aren't dyin' you aren't tryin'

There are so many things that contribute to deaths in a game it's not really helpful to look into them for example this little abstraction.

Roamer goes positive 20/10.

Was he just fragging super hard? Possibly.
Was he baiting the absolute hell out of his team and coming in and securing 2 garbage frags after his whole team is dead?

It's impossible to tell just from K/d.

The only time I'd worry about it is if you're just feeling useless and consistently turning in scorelines of 1/16 or you're *constantly* respawning when your team is trying to push.

If you aren't dyin' you aren't tryin'

There are so many things that contribute to deaths in a game it's not really helpful to look into them for example this little abstraction.

Roamer goes positive 20/10.

Was he just fragging super hard? Possibly.
Was he baiting the absolute hell out of his team and coming in and securing 2 garbage frags after his whole team is dead?

It's impossible to tell just from K/d.

The only time I'd worry about it is if you're just feeling useless and consistently turning in scorelines of 1/16 or you're *constantly* respawning when your team is trying to push.
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#3
8 Frags +

Yeah that makes sense. I guess I'm mostly just a little curious though.

But its probably better to obsess over demos and practice than statlines anyway.

Yeah that makes sense. I guess I'm mostly just a little curious though.

But its probably better to obsess over demos and practice than statlines anyway.
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#4
27 Frags +

The only stat that matters is round wins.

The only stat that matters is round wins.
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#5
55 Frags +

Here is data from a prem level roamer, you should be trying to get these sort of numbers
http://logs.tf/1077750

Here is data from a prem level roamer, you should be trying to get these sort of numbers
http://logs.tf/1077750
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#6
6 Frags +

Hey guys I'm an open demo and I read that good players will do over 300 dpm so I've been peeking every choke to spam 20 dmg stickies, but I keep dying????

Can a esea INVITE player pls give me tips on how to hit more 20 dmg stickies without dying??

Edit:
I did the math and I need to do 9k dmg to do 300 dpm in 30 mins but even if I spam 20 dmg stickies every 6 seconds (I need to get arrowed because I keep getting hit by pipes :/) it only adds up to 6k??? Where do i get 3k more damage??

Hey guys I'm an open demo and I read that good players will do over 300 dpm so I've been peeking every choke to spam 20 dmg stickies, but I keep dying????

Can a esea INVITE player pls give me tips on how to hit more 20 dmg stickies without dying??

Edit:
I did the math and I need to do 9k dmg to do 300 dpm in 30 mins but even if I spam 20 dmg stickies every 6 seconds (I need to get arrowed because I keep getting hit by pipes :/) it only adds up to 6k??? Where do i get 3k more damage??
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#7
-12 Frags +

Err... spam? Direct pipes? Traps? Demo isn't all about hitting 20 dmg stickies you know. Get a decent positioning and you won't be dying like a potato bag.

Err... spam? Direct pipes? Traps? Demo isn't all about hitting 20 dmg stickies you know. Get a decent positioning and you won't be dying like a potato bag.
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#8
7 Frags +

SIDESHOWWWW sdb is ok too i guess

SIDESHOWWWW sdb is ok too i guess
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#9
4 Frags +

baited

baited
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#10
21 Frags +
aratingaErr... spam? Direct pipes? Traps? Demo isn't all about hitting 20 dmg stickies you know. Get a decent positioning and you won't be dying like a potato bag.

i jok

[quote=aratinga]Err... spam? Direct pipes? Traps? Demo isn't all about hitting 20 dmg stickies you know. Get a decent positioning and you won't be dying like a potato bag.[/quote]

i jok
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#11
15 Frags +
Hunter_2_0aratingaErr... spam? Direct pipes? Traps? Demo isn't all about hitting 20 dmg stickies you know. Get a decent positioning and you won't be dying like a potato bag.
i jok

ayyy

[quote=Hunter_2_0][quote=aratinga]Err... spam? Direct pipes? Traps? Demo isn't all about hitting 20 dmg stickies you know. Get a decent positioning and you won't be dying like a potato bag.[/quote]

i jok[/quote]
ayyy
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#12
-4 Frags +
Di4SIDESHOWWWW sdb is ok too i guess

sdb was god amongst (edgy) men

[quote=Di4]SIDESHOWWWW sdb is ok too i guess[/quote]
sdb was god amongst (edgy) men
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#13
11 Frags +

It all depends on your playstyle, a roamer who is constantly jumping in trying to create space will die more often than a roamer thats just watching the flank. Either style is good, just make sure your team knows what youre gonna do.

A good guideline would be to see that your K/D is around 0.8 - 1.
Any death should be for a reason (forcing uber, trading with a scout etc.)

It all depends on your playstyle, a roamer who is constantly jumping in trying to create space will die more often than a roamer thats just watching the flank. Either style is good, just make sure your team knows what youre gonna do.

A good guideline would be to see that your K/D is around 0.8 - 1.
Any death should be for a reason (forcing uber, trading with a scout etc.)
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#14
cp_granary_pro
-1 Frags +

27

27
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#15
2 Frags +
Dagger27

wrong its 32

[quote=Dagger]27[/quote]
wrong its 32
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#16
4 Frags +

fucking idiot

fucking idiot
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#17
6 Frags +

the whole point of playing roamer is u get to pull out the 'roamer stats dont matter' line when somebody tries to blame u for a loss

obviously its not that extreme but if u looking at ur numbers instead of ur demos when ur roaming u probably arent focusing on the right things

the whole point of playing roamer is u get to pull out the 'roamer stats dont matter' line when somebody tries to blame u for a loss

obviously its not that extreme but if u looking at ur numbers instead of ur demos when ur roaming u probably arent focusing on the right things
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#18
3 Frags +

deaths dont matter
consistant deaths at non-opportune times means you have problems

basically listen to marxist, dd and mason

deaths dont matter
consistant deaths at non-opportune times means you have problems

basically listen to marxist, dd and mason
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#19
2 Frags +

you're probably going to die at mid so make sure it means something

you're probably going to die at mid so make sure it means something
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#20
3 Frags +

Paging bear

Paging bear
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#21
2 Frags +

just because you died and didnt get a frag doesnt mean the play you made was bad. just means your logs look bad :)

just because you died and didnt get a frag doesnt mean the play you made was bad. just means your logs look bad :)
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#22
2 Frags +

The more u die the more Ur doing for Ur team Trust me

The more u die the more Ur doing for Ur team Trust me
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#23
-1 Frags +
nykHere is data from a prem level roamer, you should be trying to get these sort of numbers
http://logs.tf/1077750

the number you're referring to is the airshot i assume, airshots are the only thing that matters on soldier

[quote=nyk]Here is data from a prem level roamer, you should be trying to get these sort of numbers
http://logs.tf/1077750[/quote]
the number you're referring to is the airshot i assume, airshots are the only thing that matters on soldier
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