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Let's talk Faceit
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#1
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I made a survey

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfVWZjSrBpVg4PmkV-QQa5NExrs5E0n_paxcYTS0kBLXfU0qQ/formResponse

I feel that if you want something fixed, you must come together and say what is wrong. Personally I would like if everyone cared about faceit to try and organize ourselves to tell faceit it what is wrong with their current site, and that if they care about our future they need to fix/improve their site asap.

Results of stuff so far, i'll break down everything later if i can get like 100 respondents, i personally would like to get as many as possible so i can send this info to the faceit team

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfVWZjSrBpVg4PmkV-QQa5NExrs5E0n_paxcYTS0kBLXfU0qQ/viewanalytics

Spread sheet version:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YJqTIAKI5V877b2XuhGh4u2IqnoH1aK6zvb2AwLY4r0/edit?usp=sharing

(sorry for being so new to this shit, hopefully everyone can see this now)

Also give me some feedback for when i do stuff like this if you want, it's appreciated.

I made a survey

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfVWZjSrBpVg4PmkV-QQa5NExrs5E0n_paxcYTS0kBLXfU0qQ/formResponse

I feel that if you want something fixed, you must come together and say what is wrong. Personally I would like if everyone cared about faceit to try and organize ourselves to tell faceit it what is wrong with their current site, and that if they care about our future they need to fix/improve their site asap.


Results of stuff so far, i'll break down everything later if i can get like 100 respondents, i personally would like to get as many as possible so i can send this info to the faceit team

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfVWZjSrBpVg4PmkV-QQa5NExrs5E0n_paxcYTS0kBLXfU0qQ/viewanalytics

Spread sheet version:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YJqTIAKI5V877b2XuhGh4u2IqnoH1aK6zvb2AwLY4r0/edit?usp=sharing

(sorry for being so new to this shit, hopefully everyone can see this now)

Also give me some feedback for when i do stuff like this if you want, it's appreciated.
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#2
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Im not exactly sure what faceit is trying to do, but outside of FPL, they're nothing more than a pug service afaik (correct me if I'm wrong). I feel they don't offer anything more than what other sites offer, and in most cases even less.

Im not exactly sure what faceit is trying to do, but outside of FPL, they're nothing more than a pug service afaik (correct me if I'm wrong). I feel they don't offer anything more than what other sites offer, and in most cases even less.
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#3
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I used to play there for the free stuff but stopped because the player quality is so incredibly bad not just in general but with random players having more than 150 ping and having seemingly no idea how tf2 works. People on tf2center are better players and on top of it you get to choose what class you play, and have people show up to mumble. Faceit is a bad experience in exchange for getting a few keys worth of items every couple weeks. I know you can't exactly fix it but a good direction to go in would be a better banning system so dota players from EU can't just join and play like ass and get rewarded for it.

I used to play there for the free stuff but stopped because the player quality is so incredibly bad not just in general but with random players having more than 150 ping and having seemingly no idea how tf2 works. People on tf2center are better players and on top of it you get to choose what class you play, and have people show up to mumble. Faceit is a bad experience in exchange for getting a few keys worth of items every couple weeks. I know you can't exactly fix it but a good direction to go in would be a better banning system so dota players from EU can't just join and play like ass and get rewarded for it.
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#4
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wolsneIm not exactly sure what faceit is trying to do, but outside of FPL, they're nothing more than a pug service afaik (correct me if I'm wrong). I feel they don't offer anything more than what other sites offer, and in most cases even less.-Phantom-I used to play there for the free stuff but stopped because the player quality is so incredibly bad it just stopped being worth it. People on tf2center are better players and on top of it you get to choose what class you play, and have people show up to mumble. Faceit is a bad experience in exchange for getting a few keys worth of items every couple weeks.

That is kind of the point of this, so that we can get to together to agree on somethings so that hopefully the faceit experience can improve with clarity and efficiency

[quote=wolsne]Im not exactly sure what faceit is trying to do, but outside of FPL, they're nothing more than a pug service afaik (correct me if I'm wrong). I feel they don't offer anything more than what other sites offer, and in most cases even less.[/quote]

[quote=-Phantom-]I used to play there for the free stuff but stopped because the player quality is so incredibly bad it just stopped being worth it. People on tf2center are better players and on top of it you get to choose what class you play, and have people show up to mumble. Faceit is a bad experience in exchange for getting a few keys worth of items every couple weeks.[/quote]

That is kind of the point of this, so that we can get to together to agree on somethings so that hopefully the faceit experience can improve with clarity and efficiency
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#5
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ban roga

ban roga
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#6
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16jacobjban roga

rogag0d

[quote=16jacobj]ban roga[/quote]
rogag0d
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#7
11 Frags +

ban juju

ban juju
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#8
39 Frags +

Insta ban anyone with fov_desired 70

Insta ban anyone with fov_desired 70
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#9
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the faceit experience is greatly improved by muting everyone tbh

the faceit experience is greatly improved by muting everyone tbh
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#10
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Bumping thread to show i have posted results

Bumping thread to show i have posted results
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#11
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its annoying when a 70fov csgofriend hogs med or demo and has no idea what to do
or is AFK for a while and disconnects a bunch of times through the match
dunno about NA but quality of matches in EU is disgustingly low, lower than tf2c

its annoying when a 70fov csgofriend hogs med or demo and has no idea what to do
or is AFK for a while and disconnects a bunch of times through the match
dunno about NA but quality of matches in EU is disgustingly low, lower than tf2c
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#12
12 Frags +

I want product in the map pool

I want product in the map pool
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#13
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sageits annoying when a 70fov csgofriend hogs med or demo and has no idea what to do
or is AFK for a while and disconnects a bunch of times through the match
dunno about NA but quality of matches in EU is disgustingly low, lower than tf2c

na games are full of russians and brazillians playing fulltime pyro/engie, not playing faceit anymore after i get my prizes

[quote=sage]its annoying when a 70fov csgofriend hogs med or demo and has no idea what to do
or is AFK for a while and disconnects a bunch of times through the match
dunno about NA but quality of matches in EU is disgustingly low, lower than tf2c[/quote]

na games are full of russians and brazillians playing fulltime pyro/engie, not playing faceit anymore after i get my prizes
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#14
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why is faceit supporting a dead game :thinken:

why is faceit supporting a dead game :thinken:
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#15
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AdasWrathwhy is faceit supporting a dead game :thinken:

https://i.gyazo.com/80f091e6046a5a04653807bfda5aba63.png

stop posting

[quote=AdasWrath]why is faceit supporting a dead game :thinken:[/quote]
[img]https://i.gyazo.com/80f091e6046a5a04653807bfda5aba63.png[/img]

stop posting
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#16
11 Frags +

i would play faceit all the time if class selection didn't depend on who gets in the server first

i would play faceit all the time if class selection didn't depend on who gets in the server first
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#17
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after 111 responses the results are as followed (you can check them yourself but i'm going to break down the results more

Section 1: What do you want this website to be like?

in order of most popular

1: 49.5% of people chose more open to newer players (Like mixchamp, freakpugs) (55 out of 111 people)

2. 27.9% of people chose like pugchamp (system and player wise) (31 out of 111 people)

3. 10.8% of people chose like tf2center (12 out of 111 people)

4. 7.2% said something around the main pugging site/keep it the way it is with some improvement (8 out of 111 people)

Section 2: What does faceit need fixed?

A lot of the community wanted most of what I had presented to be fixed with only "wanting less maps" not making it past 50% (only had 12.6% of people wanting this (14 out of 111 people))

1. 74.8% of people wanted an improved ban system (83 out of 111 people)

2. 65.8% of people wanted a player restriction (hour restriction) (73 out of 111 people)

3. 64.9% of people wanted an improved matchmaking system (more balanced matches) (72 out of 111 people)

4. 62.2% of people wanted a region restriction (ping restriction) (69 xd out of 111 people)

Other noticeable ones that people wanted that got of over 50% of votes were people wanted an improved elo system (61 out of 111 people) and more maps (56 out of 111 people)

Section 3: What should be added to this website?

again most of the selections i presented were agreed upon except of a captain system (only got 46.8% percent of votes (52 out of 111 people)

1. 88.3% of people wanted a sub system (98 out of 111 people) (most popular choice of survey so far)

2. 71.2% of people wanted the ability to pick their own class (like tf2center) (79 out of 111 people)

3. 64.9% of people wanted a kick system implemented (72 out of 111 people)

very small but most popular option from the other category was that people wanted external comm. servers implemented like mumble/discord

Section 4:Extra stuff

I'd like to thank everyone that has participated so far in the survey, I didn't think I would have 100 people partake of this survey, but it shows that people do care about faceit. Hopefully I can get as much as 300+ people to take this survey so that I can send this info to the faceit team to show them what the community really wants their website to improve in

after 111 responses the results are as followed (you can check them yourself but i'm going to break down the results more


[b]Section 1: What do you want this website to be like?[/b]

in order of most popular

1: 49.5% of people chose more open to newer players (Like mixchamp, freakpugs) (55 out of 111 people)

2. 27.9% of people chose like pugchamp (system and player wise) (31 out of 111 people)

3. 10.8% of people chose like tf2center (12 out of 111 people)

4. 7.2% said something around the main pugging site/keep it the way it is with some improvement (8 out of 111 people)


[b]Section 2: What does faceit need fixed?[/b]

A lot of the community wanted most of what I had presented to be fixed with only "wanting less maps" not making it past 50% (only had 12.6% of people wanting this (14 out of 111 people))

1. 74.8% of people wanted an improved ban system (83 out of 111 people)

2. 65.8% of people wanted a player restriction (hour restriction) (73 out of 111 people)

3. 64.9% of people wanted an improved matchmaking system (more balanced matches) (72 out of 111 people)

4. 62.2% of people wanted a region restriction (ping restriction) (69 xd out of 111 people)

Other noticeable ones that people wanted that got of over 50% of votes were people wanted an improved elo system (61 out of 111 people) and more maps (56 out of 111 people)

[b]Section 3: What should be added to this website? [/b]

again most of the selections i presented were agreed upon except of a captain system (only got 46.8% percent of votes (52 out of 111 people)

1. 88.3% of people wanted a sub system (98 out of 111 people) (most popular choice of survey so far)

2. 71.2% of people wanted the ability to pick their own class (like tf2center) (79 out of 111 people)

3. 64.9% of people wanted a kick system implemented (72 out of 111 people)

very small but most popular option from the other category was that people wanted external comm. servers implemented like mumble/discord

[b]Section 4:Extra stuff [/b]

I'd like to thank everyone that has participated so far in the survey, I didn't think I would have 100 people partake of this survey, but it shows that people do care about faceit. Hopefully I can get as much as 300+ people to take this survey so that I can send this info to the faceit team to show them what the community really wants their website to improve in
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#18
9 Frags +

I play Faceit for the same reason I play TF2: greatest promise of the available options, however faint that may be. Considering Valve only listens to money nowadays, working with Faceit is the best option we have of realizing the hopes we have for the game.
Also, ban armand.

I play Faceit for the same reason I play TF2: greatest promise of the available options, however faint that may be. Considering Valve only listens to money nowadays, working with Faceit is the best option we have of realizing the hopes we have for the game.
Also, ban armand.
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#19
5 Frags +

would it be possible to improve the classlimit system so people cant do tricks to have 2 demos or 3 scouts ?
also dont enforce cl_cmdrate 66, people with bad connections might want something lower

would it be possible to improve the classlimit system so people cant do tricks to have 2 demos or 3 scouts ?
also dont enforce cl_cmdrate 66, people with bad connections might want something lower
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#20
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sagewould it be possible to improve the classlimit system so people cant do tricks to have 2 demos or 3 scouts ?
also dont enforce cl_cmdrate 66, people with bad connections might want something lower

AFAIK the classlimit system is ingame, and has been broken since implementation by valve. The only way to enforce it is with a server plugin like old pub servers used to have to prevent too many snipers.

[quote=sage]would it be possible to improve the classlimit system so people cant do tricks to have 2 demos or 3 scouts ?
also dont enforce cl_cmdrate 66, people with bad connections might want something lower[/quote]
AFAIK the classlimit system is ingame, and has been broken since implementation by valve. The only way to enforce it is with a server plugin like old pub servers used to have to prevent too many snipers.
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#21
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https://faceit.uservoice.com/forums/317529-platform-feedback/suggestions/20155717-the-current-ladder-system-at-least-for-tf2-does

sagewould it be possible to improve the classlimit system so people cant do tricks to have 2 demos or 3 scouts ?
also dont enforce cl_cmdrate 66, people with bad connections might want something lower

You can have 5 scout and med or 6 scouts. :) Already sent a ticket to a support how to do this. They respond me they wil will look on this bug.

For those guys who want sub system they should think first how it is going to work. You don't see this in CS:GO or Overwatch because it would be retarded. EDIT. (I mean in comp)

They should change ladder system imo. + ELO System is funny
Maybe they should do separate ladder for 1-3 ELO LEVEL(I mean 500 1st 300 2nd 200 3rd and 100 for 4-10 and 50 for 10-20) and 4-10 ELO LEVEL.+ You can't play with friends who didn't play 5 matches and they are in different ladder (1-3 and 4-10ELO Level). + Ping limit to 100-140.

Note.
This is example. It can be different requirements or other things.

https://faceit.uservoice.com/forums/317529-platform-feedback/suggestions/20155717-the-current-ladder-system-at-least-for-tf2-does

[quote=sage]would it be possible to improve the classlimit system so people cant do tricks to have 2 demos or 3 scouts ?
also dont enforce cl_cmdrate 66, people with bad connections might want something lower[/quote]

You can have 5 scout and med or 6 scouts. :) Already sent a ticket to a support how to do this. They respond me they wil will look on this bug.

For those guys who want sub system they should think first how it is going to work. You don't see this in CS:GO or Overwatch because it would be retarded. EDIT. (I mean in comp)

They should change ladder system imo. + ELO System is funny
Maybe they should do separate ladder for 1-3 ELO LEVEL(I mean 500 1st 300 2nd 200 3rd and 100 for 4-10 and 50 for 10-20) and 4-10 ELO LEVEL.+ You can't play with friends who didn't play 5 matches and they are in different ladder (1-3 and 4-10ELO Level). + Ping limit to 100-140.


Note.
This is example. It can be different requirements or other things.
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#22
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Quick Update:

As of now I have 131 people participate in my survey

Although that is a good handful of people My ultimate goal is to get around 350 people, I can deal with 300 and more would be even better. So If you haven't taken the survey yet or please do, also share it on other places like maybe reddit, etc. idk. I really want to send this info to the faceit team and if we get a good portion of people who knows, they might add the thing or two which would really improve the site quality tbh. I would love to get 350 people by the end of the month

Thank you every much for your time.

Quick Update:

As of now I have 131 people participate in my survey

Although that is a good handful of people My ultimate goal is to get around 350 people, I can deal with 300 and more would be even better. So If you haven't taken the survey yet or please do, also share it on other places like maybe reddit, etc. idk. I really want to send this info to the faceit team and if we get a good portion of people who knows, they might add the thing or two which would really improve the site quality tbh. I would love to get 350 people by the end of the month


Thank you every much for your time.
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#23
0 Frags +

Can you add the main pugging site as an option for the first question?
Also have you sent this to faceit discord?

Can you add the main pugging site as an option for the first question?
Also have you sent this to faceit discord?
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#24
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syphCan you add the main pugging site as an option for the first question?
Also have you sent this to faceit discord?

I guess I could but if anyone said main pugging site as third option I bunch them together (I should have done it in the beginning tho, big mistake on my part) Edit: Just added it now

And no, I'm not sure what you want me to do exactly as well, you want me to just post it there so everyone knows it exists? or to send my info I have so far to the faceit team.

[quote=syph]Can you add the main pugging site as an option for the first question?
Also have you sent this to faceit discord?[/quote]



I guess I could but if anyone said main pugging site as third option I bunch them together (I should have done it in the beginning tho, big mistake on my part) Edit: Just added it now

And no, I'm not sure what you want me to do exactly as well, you want me to just post it there so everyone knows it exists? or to send my info I have so far to the faceit team.
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#25
-3 Frags +

I would like the time for the start of the match and the connect info to be shorter
it takes about 3 minutes to connect to a TF2 server even with the shittiest of laptops
also reduce time to ban each map from 30 seconds to 15 or so, most leaders either ban the maps they dislike quickly or dont ban any map at all

I would like the time for the start of the match and the connect info to be shorter
it takes about 3 minutes to connect to a TF2 server even with the shittiest of laptops
also reduce time to ban each map from 30 seconds to 15 or so, most leaders either ban the maps they dislike quickly or dont ban any map at all
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#26
3 Frags +

sign up http://www.teamfortress.tv/42409/tftv-na-weekly-series-3-powered-by-faceit

sign up http://www.teamfortress.tv/42409/tftv-na-weekly-series-3-powered-by-faceit
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#27
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sageI would like the time for the start of the match and the connect info to be shorter
it takes about 3 minutes to connect to a TF2 server even with the shittiest of laptops

Generally true, but I played TF2 on my craptop about a week ago and discovered that connect times can vary drastically for no discernible reason. A big problem is that connecting required me to tab out of the game (unless I ran in windowed, which hurt my frames to the point of unplayability). Trying to tab back in on its own often took more than a minute. 5 minutes is honestly a pretty short wait time on its own; any shorter would kill a lot of games that don't need killing.

[quote=sage]I would like the time for the start of the match and the connect info to be shorter
it takes about 3 minutes to connect to a TF2 server even with the shittiest of laptops[/quote]

Generally true, but I played TF2 on my craptop about a week ago and discovered that connect times can vary drastically for no discernible reason. A big problem is that connecting required me to tab out of the game (unless I ran in windowed, which hurt my frames to the point of unplayability). Trying to tab back in on its own often took more than a minute. 5 minutes is honestly a pretty short wait time on its own; any shorter would kill a lot of games that don't need killing.
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#28
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sageI would like the time for the start of the match and the connect info to be shorter
it takes about 3 minutes to connect to a TF2 server even with the shittiest of laptops
also reduce time to ban each map from 30 seconds to 15 or so, most leaders either ban the maps they dislike quickly or dont ban any map at all

Yes on the map ban thing but my crappy laptop takes 3:30 and i'm sure it can get worse for other people.

[quote=sage]I would like the time for the start of the match and the connect info to be shorter
it takes about 3 minutes to connect to a TF2 server even with the shittiest of laptops
also reduce time to ban each map from 30 seconds to 15 or so, most leaders either ban the maps they dislike quickly or dont ban any map at all[/quote] Yes on the map ban thing but my crappy laptop takes 3:30 and i'm sure it can get worse for other people.
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#29
-1 Frags +
syphsageI would like the time for the start of the match and the connect info to be shorter
it takes about 3 minutes to connect to a TF2 server even with the shittiest of laptops
also reduce time to ban each map from 30 seconds to 15 or so, most leaders either ban the maps they dislike quickly or dont ban any map at all
Yes on the map ban thing but my crappy laptop takes 3:30 and i'm sure it can get worse for other people.

how can it possibly take you that long
i have a celeron N3050 laptop and the longer it took me was 3 minutes as long as i leave tf2 open in the background beforehand (takes like a minute just to bring up main menu)

[quote=syph][quote=sage]I would like the time for the start of the match and the connect info to be shorter
it takes about 3 minutes to connect to a TF2 server even with the shittiest of laptops
also reduce time to ban each map from 30 seconds to 15 or so, most leaders either ban the maps they dislike quickly or dont ban any map at all[/quote] Yes on the map ban thing but my crappy laptop takes 3:30 and i'm sure it can get worse for other people.[/quote]

how can it possibly take you that long
i have a celeron N3050 laptop and the longer it took me was 3 minutes as long as i leave tf2 open in the background beforehand (takes like a minute just to bring up main menu)
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#30
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sage
how can it possibly take you that long
i have a celeron N3050 laptop and the longer it took me was 3 minutes as long as i leave tf2 open in the background beforehand (takes like a minute just to bring up main menu)

when I had a crappy laptop it would take like 1-2 minutes to load, and when you have bad connection it takes a while to connect, especially when you try to connect to a server for the first time.

Also there are times were my game has crashed, or my internet when out for a bit and having that extra time really helps you be able to reconnect to a game. I don't have a problem with a 5 minute warm up as pug sites can take longer than that to ready up

[quote=sage]

how can it possibly take you that long
i have a celeron N3050 laptop and the longer it took me was 3 minutes as long as i leave tf2 open in the background beforehand (takes like a minute just to bring up main menu)[/quote]


when I had a crappy laptop it would take like 1-2 minutes to load, and when you have bad connection it takes a while to connect, especially when you try to connect to a server for the first time.

Also there are times were my game has crashed, or my internet when out for a bit and having that extra time really helps you be able to reconnect to a game. I don't have a problem with a 5 minute warm up as pug sites can take longer than that to ready up
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