Servers went to pugchamp

F R E A K P U G S

https://freakpugs.herokuapp.com/

I'm actually one of the admins there and so far it's been pretty good. We're certainly not trying to compete with pugchamp or anything, and include extensive credit and donation links to ChampGG on the main site. Really it started out as a small circle of friend-players, but sort of blew up mid-June into a larger group of "open" players.

Also it uses discord which I thought would be disgusting and surprisingly is not that bad. Makes communication super easy through text, not so much through voice. The only reason discord works for this is because of the website, I would never recommend discord for an inhouse/orally drafted pug group.

Hey man I love Freak Pugs, and I love the work you are doing, but I do not like how my alias was forcibly changed to something that is not mine because my friend thought it would be funny to troll. May my alias be corrected and changed to eatbabiesmmg00d? Thank you in advance!

Good riddance amirite

Edit: Nvm I guess its just called freakpugs now.

ty all I will try Freak Pugs today

it's a shame mapchamp sundays were a real blessing for me :(

freak pugs seems to be NA only >:(

take pugchamp code and make All_Over_RSpugs then

Please excuse me for hijacking this thread a little bit but this is sort of relevant to the original topic.

I've just come back to the game after a long break from TF2 and as a result, I'm even worse than I was before (played mid-ETF2L 6s and High in Highlander) and a lot of people won't even know me.

I was saddened to see that, my regular haunt, TF2Pickup is dead for now and mixchamp EU doesn't have any games running at all. As far as I know (please correct me if I'm wrong because I'd like to play vidya games), the only EU sites where you can play 6v6 games that aren't either dead or dying are Pugchamp EU and TF2center.

Pugchamp EU is a great site but the issue is it's a captain picking system. I sympathise completely with the captains on that site but it is depressing when you don't get picked for several games in a row and this does happen quite often. TF2center is aids, I don't think I really have to explain why.

My point is though is that I feel that it's difficult to get into some proper games of TF2 if you're a newer player or a player who is old/inexperienced like me and that is never good for a gaming scene as small as ours.

We wanna be doing everything we can to encourage new players into our community. I'd love to see another site that is all about providing a more realistic 6s (or HL) experience for people who are bored of the same old nonsense on TF2center but aren't good enough or well known enough to be picked on Pugchamp. This is what TF2Pickup used to do and now that it's not there, I really miss it.

Do you know about FACEiT's TF2 system?

rumor I heard was Tery shut down the servers because he had to make extra time for a new kpop routine featuring WaveYa. Can't say I blame him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzMVkZaufZU

I've heard about it but I've never personally tried it. I've been told by other people that it's a bit of a clusterfuck with one person describing it as "...like TF2Center but without the classes."

As I say, cannot speak for it and I probably will give it a go sometime because I like to form my own opinions but it's definitely not the same thing that Pickup used to be.

someone should make a pug site with no captaining system and with the ability to chose the class you wanna play
bad players wanna pug too

https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/566c9fc265dbbdab32ec053b/1x

Hiipfire has the best idea about what to do in my situation, maybe I should give this a try. http://prntscr.com/fsynvw

https://tf2center.com/lobbies

Next time I get fatkidded I'm gonna make my own pugsite

tf2center is aids

make sure you posted it on tf.tv so i can avoid it

i've been wishing for something to play that isnt aids for over two years

freakpugs is more active than pugchamp...

If the faceit hub thing happens it should be what we're all looking for, but it's not in eu yet and i haven't heard anything new about it recently.

faceit has the right approach. the only problem is its player base

would it be possible if pugchamp did something similar to esea cs pugs with rank S being reserved for top players, rank G as a promotion system and the rest being A,B,C,D

There was when it started, but no one played it due to lack of players so now everyone is in the same pug group leading to the issues that REM decribes.

In my personal experience I sympathise with REM, I have been many a time in similar situations and it is only possible to play a pugsite that isnt the mess that tf2c/faceit are by playing medic on pugchamp or hoping the site is active enough for there to be 2 or 3 pugs going on at the same time.

The hub would work but there is a few problems with it that if they addressed, would make faceit ultimately the best website to play on.

1. No sub system

2. No known player ban system.

3. no possibility of gaining faceit points through the b4nny hub.

4. lacking features needed in general to help with balancing (showing players stats, etc.)

5. kinda hard to get to the hub in the first place.

6. Improve their elo system

because of this it's basically a downgrade to what already exists and is more well known out there, I would love if faceit could be improved on and i wish the community was much more forward with helping the progress of faceit because it sounds amazing to play to earn items and have a site where rank matters more

There are other issues as well, such as still not supporting koth.
I agree that faceit has a lot of potential but its devs seem to work at the same speed as valve when it comes to fixing issues and are slightly better at communication.

Then there is the ever difficult challenge of how you get players to move over. TF2Center did it because tf2lobby died and it offered better features. Pugchamp did it because it offered a captain draft which pickup did not. Stadium couldnt do it as it was basicly a center clone with a few minor additions. So if faceit want to get an active player base they need to have something no one else can offer, maybe the items/faceit points will be it, however it needs to be at the same level as pugchamp and tf2c and have the items/points before most people will move over.

ddos tf2center

Isn't he just using pugchamp legacy?
https://github.com/fwdcp/pugchamp-legacy