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Spy nerfs
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What do you guys think about the upcoming spy updates?
This is straight from "Balance changes"
Ambassador
Players that are head-shot from across the map are expecting to see a Sniper in their death-cam, but they sometimes see (more often that we'd like) a Spy with a revolver
Goal: Reduce the effective combat range to something more reasonable and expected with the Spy
Changes:
First-shots are no longer perfectly accurate. Bullet-spread is instead reduced by 50%. This makes head shots less reliable at long range, while still very viable at close and medium-range.
Dead Ringer
Feign death is an interesting effect, but a good Spy can use it extremely frequently making it frustrating to play against and reducing the risk of using it nearly constantly
Goal: Rather than make it less interesting, let's make it more predictable to fight against by removing methods by which Spies can reduce its cool-down. This should create more of a rhythm to fighting against a Spy using this and introduce a little more risk to player using it.
Changes:
Ammo kits and dispensers no longer refill the Spy's cloak meter
Your Eternal Reward
This is the least-used Spy knife (technically, the reskin is, but anyway...). While silent-kill and rapid-disguise-on-kill are good, the downside on this knife is extreme.
Changes:
Removed: "Cannot disguise" penalty
Added: Non-kill disguises require (and consume) a full cloak meter
Backstab-based disguises are still free
Increased cloak drain rate by 50%"

YER changes seemed okay to me, but I feel that you would need to use the L'etranger with it.
I think overall they are too harsh on spy, and these would be better nerfs:
Dead ringer
>While not cloaked, spy cannot gain metal from dispensers. When activated (take damage with it out), spy can take ammo from enemy dispensers, but the charge drains faster than any level dispenser can refill it

Also, I'd rather not see the ambassador nerfed at all. Thoughts?

What do you guys think about the upcoming spy updates?
This is straight from "Balance changes"
Ambassador
Players that are head-shot from across the map are expecting to see a Sniper in their death-cam, but they sometimes see (more often that we'd like) a Spy with a revolver
Goal: Reduce the effective combat range to something more reasonable and expected with the Spy
Changes:
First-shots are no longer perfectly accurate. Bullet-spread is instead reduced by 50%. This makes head shots less reliable at long range, while still very viable at close and medium-range.
Dead Ringer
Feign death is an interesting effect, but a good Spy can use it extremely frequently making it frustrating to play against and reducing the risk of using it nearly constantly
Goal: Rather than make it less interesting, let's make it more predictable to fight against by removing methods by which Spies can reduce its cool-down. This should create more of a rhythm to fighting against a Spy using this and introduce a little more risk to player using it.
Changes:
Ammo kits and dispensers no longer refill the Spy's cloak meter
Your Eternal Reward
This is the least-used Spy knife (technically, the reskin is, but anyway...). While silent-kill and rapid-disguise-on-kill are good, the downside on this knife is extreme.
Changes:
Removed: "Cannot disguise" penalty
Added: Non-kill disguises require (and consume) a full cloak meter
Backstab-based disguises are still free
Increased cloak drain rate by 50%"

YER changes seemed okay to me, but I feel that you would need to use the L'etranger with it.
I think overall they are too harsh on spy, and these would be better nerfs:
Dead ringer
>While not cloaked, spy cannot gain metal from dispensers. When activated (take damage with it out), spy can take ammo from enemy dispensers, but the charge drains faster than any level dispenser can refill it

Also, I'd rather not see the ambassador nerfed at all. Thoughts?
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There's 4 other threads for this

There's 4 other threads for this
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VulcanThere's 4 other threads for this

My bad, sorry

[quote=Vulcan]There's 4 other threads for this[/quote] My bad, sorry
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i've been maining spy for the past 7 years and all i have to say is..

i'm PISSED. how the frick am i supposed to use the dead ringer now!! it sucks!!!

jeeze valve get ur shit together ahh!

i've been maining spy for the past 7 years and all i have to say is..

i'm PISSED. how the frick am i supposed to use the dead ringer now!! it sucks!!!

jeeze valve get ur shit together ahh!
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phobiai've been maining spy for the past 7 years and all i have to say is..

i'm PISSED. how the frick am i supposed to use the dead ringer now!! it sucks!!!

jeeze valve get ur shit together ahh!

IKR! I get why they would want to nerf the DR, but those nerfs would make it so that it is barely viable. I hope they rethink what they're doing.

[quote=phobia]i've been maining spy for the past 7 years and all i have to say is..

i'm PISSED. how the frick am i supposed to use the dead ringer now!! it sucks!!!

jeeze valve get ur shit together ahh![/quote]
IKR! I get why they would want to nerf the DR, but those nerfs would make it so that it is barely viable. I hope they rethink what they're doing.
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which one of them is joking, i cant even tell anymore

which one of them is joking, i cant even tell anymore
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