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I have started making videos about various game ideas that I think can improve Team Fortress 2, and was wondering if I could get some feedback on these videos and suggestions for topics, from the perspective of other, more experienced competitive players.

Thanks!

Here is what I have created so far:
Changing the Items System, and the benefits from doing so.

Overhauling the Tutorial into a 'Choose Your Own Adventure' Game

I have started making videos about various game ideas that I think can improve Team Fortress 2, and was wondering if I could get some feedback on these videos and suggestions for topics, from the perspective of other, more experienced competitive players.

Thanks!

[b]Here is what I have created so far:[/b]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj-u1MXeTEQ]Changing the Items System, and the benefits from doing so.[/url]

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqCnbEeI99Y]Overhauling the Tutorial into a 'Choose Your Own Adventure' Game[/url]
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don't think valve would care or watch but okay man

don't think valve would care or watch but okay man
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I think you should be able to see more on the scoreboard, like k/d and cap points for all players, like the csgo scoreboard
Because sometimes i pugs i feel bad about my skill because i see myself in the middle of the scoreboard, and after the game when i check logs it turns out i'm in fact top fragging and my team is just getting tons of cap points

I think you should be able to see more on the scoreboard, like k/d and cap points for all players, like the csgo scoreboard
Because sometimes i pugs i feel bad about my skill because i see myself in the middle of the scoreboard, and after the game when i check logs it turns out i'm in fact top fragging and my team is just getting tons of cap points
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#4
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bunnyhopping
grenades
xpress3.bsp

that's what TF2 needs.

bunnyhopping
grenades
xpress3.bsp

that's what TF2 needs.
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#5
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Tulkasbunnyhopping
grenades
xpress3.bsp

that's what TF2 needs.

1)gaining speed from bunny hopping is amazing but it allows for cheaters to destroy matches
2) grenades are completely broken just look at team fortress classic
3) no

[quote=Tulkas]bunnyhopping
grenades
xpress3.bsp

that's what TF2 needs.[/quote]
1)gaining speed from bunny hopping is amazing but it allows for cheaters to destroy matches
2) grenades are completely broken just look at team fortress classic
3) no
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#6
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Valve is simply not a good company, they do not pay much attention to ANY of their games, the best way for anything to happen is that the tf2 community takes matters into they're own hands

Valve is simply not a good company, they do not pay much attention to ANY of their games, the best way for anything to happen is that the tf2 community takes matters into they're own hands
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#7
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VulcanValve is simply not a good company, they do not pay much attention to ANY of their games, the best way for anything to happen is that the tf2 community takes matters into they're own hands

what that's not related to this topic the community can't change anything significant in the game itself

[quote=Vulcan]Valve is simply not a good company, they do not pay much attention to ANY of their games, the best way for anything to happen is that the tf2 community takes matters into they're own hands[/quote]
what that's not related to this topic the community can't change anything significant in the game itself
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RipTideI think you should be able to see more on the scoreboard, like k/d and cap points for all players, like the csgo scoreboard
Because sometimes i pugs i feel bad about my skill because i see myself in the middle of the scoreboard, and after the game when i check logs it turns out i'm in fact top fragging and my team is just getting tons of cap points

You can do that by clicking on people's names. There's a setting that lets you click the scoreboard similar to csgo

[quote=RipTide]I think you should be able to see more on the scoreboard, like k/d and cap points for all players, like the csgo scoreboard
Because sometimes i pugs i feel bad about my skill because i see myself in the middle of the scoreboard, and after the game when i check logs it turns out i'm in fact top fragging and my team is just getting tons of cap points[/quote]
You can do that by clicking on people's names. There's a setting that lets you click the scoreboard similar to csgo
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#9
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RipTideVulcanValve is simply not a good company, they do not pay much attention to ANY of their games, the best way for anything to happen is that the tf2 community takes matters into they're own handswhat that's not related to this topic the community can't change anything significant in the game itself

Basically. At most the community can attempt to influence changes to the game through providing feedback and providing data, but as far as actual changes being implemented to TF2, that is entirely on Valve's end to commit to (which realistically won't happen, and if it does, it will at a glacial pace). Due to Valve's game development philosophies it's not likely that there will be any sort of community development team that is hand-picked for the task of upkeeping TF2, so what we have now is about as good as it'll get, I'm afraid. We'll see how it progress, though.

[quote=RipTide][quote=Vulcan]Valve is simply not a good company, they do not pay much attention to ANY of their games, the best way for anything to happen is that the tf2 community takes matters into they're own hands[/quote]
what that's not related to this topic the community can't change anything significant in the game itself[/quote]
Basically. At most the community can attempt to influence changes to the game through providing feedback and providing data, but as far as actual changes being implemented to TF2, that is entirely on Valve's end to commit to (which realistically won't happen, and if it does, it will at a glacial pace). Due to Valve's game development philosophies it's not likely that there will be any sort of community development team that is hand-picked for the task of upkeeping TF2, so what we have now is about as good as it'll get, I'm afraid. We'll see how it progress, though.
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#10
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more of these threads smh

more of these threads smh
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pendaRipTideI think you should be able to see more on the scoreboard, like k/d and cap points for all players, like the csgo scoreboard
Because sometimes i pugs i feel bad about my skill because i see myself in the middle of the scoreboard, and after the game when i check logs it turns out i'm in fact top fragging and my team is just getting tons of cap points
You can do that by clicking on people's names. There's a setting that lets you click the scoreboard similar to csgo

really??? can someone confirm or post a screenshot i've never known this in my life

[quote=penda][quote=RipTide]I think you should be able to see more on the scoreboard, like k/d and cap points for all players, like the csgo scoreboard
Because sometimes i pugs i feel bad about my skill because i see myself in the middle of the scoreboard, and after the game when i check logs it turns out i'm in fact top fragging and my team is just getting tons of cap points[/quote]
You can do that by clicking on people's names. There's a setting that lets you click the scoreboard similar to csgo[/quote]
really??? can someone confirm or post a screenshot i've never known this in my life
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#12
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tf_scoreboard_mouse_mode 2

Click on a player and you will see their stats.

tf_scoreboard_mouse_mode 2

Click on a player and you will see their stats.
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I've finished making the second video in this series, where I talk about a potential overhaul to the current tutorial please let me know what you think or if you have any suggestions for future topics or ideas. (A 'topic' would be a request for for me to try to improve the aspect of TF2 that you requested by thinking of my own ideas, and an idea suggestion would be your own game suggestion that I would try to build a case for) I have also updated the OP.

RagorBasically. At most the community can attempt to influence changes to the game through providing feedback...

This is why I always include the line "the possibilities are there, it's just up for Valve to take them" in this videos, to keep the discussion grounded in reality while also allowing for development brainstorming.

I've finished making the second video in this series, where I talk about a [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqCnbEeI99Y]potential overhaul to the current tutorial[/url] please let me know what you think or if you have any suggestions for future topics or ideas. (A 'topic' would be a request for for me to try to improve the aspect of TF2 that you requested by thinking of my own ideas, and an idea suggestion would be your own game suggestion that I would try to build a case for) I have also updated the OP.

[quote=Ragor]
Basically. [b]At most the community can attempt to influence changes to the game through providing feedback[/b]... [/quote]

This is why I always include the line "the possibilities are there, it's just up for Valve to take them" in this videos, to keep the discussion grounded in reality while also allowing for development brainstorming.
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#14
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asltf_scoreboard_mouse_mode 2

Click on a player and you will see their stats.

I guess you could make a toggle for that? It would be really annoying to have on constantly, though.

[quote=asl]tf_scoreboard_mouse_mode 2

Click on a player and you will see their stats.[/quote]

I guess you could make a toggle for that? It would be really annoying to have on constantly, though.
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Rhettroasltf_scoreboard_mouse_mode 2

Click on a player and you will see their stats.

I guess you could make a toggle for that? It would be really annoying to have on constantly, though.

You get used to it after using it for a while, and you can do a lot more than just see stats, you can right click on their names to see their profiles, add them, block them, report them, and mute them

[quote=Rhettro][quote=asl]tf_scoreboard_mouse_mode 2

Click on a player and you will see their stats.[/quote]

I guess you could make a toggle for that? It would be really annoying to have on constantly, though.[/quote]
You get used to it after using it for a while, and you can do a lot more than just see stats, you can right click on their names to see their profiles, add them, block them, report them, and mute them
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I haven't used that scoreboard mouse thing because I like being able to move while using the scoreboard, and I like to look around while moving.

I guess if it's that useful I could try to learn to do it.

I haven't used that scoreboard mouse thing because I like being able to move while using the scoreboard, and I like to look around while moving.

I guess if it's that useful I could try to learn to do it.
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VulcanTulkasbunnyhopping
grenades
xpress3.bsp

that's what TF2 needs.
1)gaining speed from bunny hopping is amazing but it allows for cheaters to destroy matches
2) grenades are completely broken just look at team fortress classic
3) no

do you ever actually know what you're talking about, or always out of your ass?

[quote=Vulcan][quote=Tulkas]bunnyhopping
grenades
xpress3.bsp

that's what TF2 needs.[/quote]
1)gaining speed from bunny hopping is amazing but it allows for cheaters to destroy matches
2) grenades are completely broken just look at team fortress classic
3) no[/quote]

do you ever actually know what you're talking about, or always out of your ass?
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#18
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unfVulcanTulkasbunnyhopping
grenades
xpress3.bsp

that's what TF2 needs.
1)gaining speed from bunny hopping is amazing but it allows for cheaters to destroy matches
2) grenades are completely broken just look at team fortress classic
3) no

do you ever actually know what you're talking about, or always out of your ass?

??? Look at old cs, where bunny hopping was allowed and people could abuse the shit out of it and get behind enemies super quickly, grenades in tfc are really broken, and ctf is a flawed game mode in general

[quote=unf][quote=Vulcan][quote=Tulkas]bunnyhopping
grenades
xpress3.bsp

that's what TF2 needs.[/quote]
1)gaining speed from bunny hopping is amazing but it allows for cheaters to destroy matches
2) grenades are completely broken just look at team fortress classic
3) no[/quote]

do you ever actually know what you're talking about, or always out of your ass?[/quote]
??? Look at old cs, where bunny hopping was allowed and people could abuse the shit out of it and get behind enemies super quickly, grenades in tfc are really broken, and ctf is a flawed game mode in general
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Vulcan??? Look at old cs, where bunny hopping was allowed and people could abuse the shit out of it and get behind enemies super quickly, grenades in tfc are really broken, and ctf is a flawed game mode in general

repeating the same thing i called you out on doesn't all of a sudden make it true

csgo still has bunnyhopping, congrats cheaters are in every game with or without bunnyhopping, theyre not exclusive

grenades 'really broken' in tfc is probably the vaguest and dumbest thing you've said to date and you havent given an actual reason yet

i have a suspicion you're just parroting things you read somewhere and you've never played tfc or 1.6

[quote=Vulcan]
??? Look at old cs, where bunny hopping was allowed and people could abuse the shit out of it and get behind enemies super quickly, grenades in tfc are really broken, and ctf is a flawed game mode in general[/quote]

repeating the same thing i called you out on doesn't all of a sudden make it true

csgo still has bunnyhopping, congrats cheaters are in every game with or without bunnyhopping, theyre not exclusive

grenades 'really broken' in tfc is probably the vaguest and dumbest thing you've said to date and you havent given an actual reason yet

i have a suspicion you're just parroting things you read somewhere and you've never played tfc or 1.6
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#20
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unfVulcan??? Look at old cs, where bunny hopping was allowed and people could abuse the shit out of it and get behind enemies super quickly, grenades in tfc are really broken, and ctf is a flawed game mode in general
repeating the same thing i called you out on doesn't all of a sudden make it true

csgo still has bunnyhopping, congrats cheaters are in every game with or without bunnyhopping, theyre not exclusive

grenades 'really broken' in tfc is probably the vaguest and dumbest thing you've said to date and you havent given an actual reason yet

i have a suspicion you're just parroting things you read somewhere and you've never played tfc or 1.6

You are correct unf, he is simply talking out of his ass, as referenced by these posts a few weeks ago

[quote=unf][quote=Vulcan]
??? Look at old cs, where bunny hopping was allowed and people could abuse the shit out of it and get behind enemies super quickly, grenades in tfc are really broken, and ctf is a flawed game mode in general[/quote]

repeating the same thing i called you out on doesn't all of a sudden make it true

csgo still has bunnyhopping, congrats cheaters are in every game with or without bunnyhopping, theyre not exclusive

grenades 'really broken' in tfc is probably the vaguest and dumbest thing you've said to date and you havent given an actual reason yet

i have a suspicion you're just parroting things you read somewhere and you've never played tfc or 1.6[/quote]

You are correct unf, he is simply talking out of his ass, as referenced by [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/38411/what-would-you-wish-people-would-start-doing/?page=2#55]these posts a few weeks ago[/url]
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unfVulcan??? Look at old cs, where bunny hopping was allowed and people could abuse the shit out of it and get behind enemies super quickly, grenades in tfc are really broken, and ctf is a flawed game mode in general
repeating the same thing i called you out on doesn't all of a sudden make it true

csgo still has bunnyhopping, congrats cheaters are in every game with or without bunnyhopping, theyre not exclusive

grenades 'really broken' in tfc is probably the vaguest and dumbest thing you've said to date and you havent given an actual reason yet

i have a suspicion you're just parroting things you read somewhere and you've never played tfc or 1.6

When I read bunnyhopping I assumed he meant bunnyhopping with no speed limit, tf2 still has bunnyhopping but with a speed limit like in csgo.

[quote=unf][quote=Vulcan]
??? Look at old cs, where bunny hopping was allowed and people could abuse the shit out of it and get behind enemies super quickly, grenades in tfc are really broken, and ctf is a flawed game mode in general[/quote]

repeating the same thing i called you out on doesn't all of a sudden make it true

csgo still has bunnyhopping, congrats cheaters are in every game with or without bunnyhopping, theyre not exclusive

grenades 'really broken' in tfc is probably the vaguest and dumbest thing you've said to date and you havent given an actual reason yet

i have a suspicion you're just parroting things you read somewhere and you've never played tfc or 1.6[/quote]
When I read bunnyhopping I assumed he meant bunnyhopping with no speed limit, tf2 still has bunnyhopping but with a speed limit like in csgo.
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#22
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admin he doing it sideways

admin he doing it sideways
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#23
4 Frags +

I've always maintained that once valve decides to nix tf2 in favor of whatever they produce to take its place they will reintroduce grenades for the various classes. My official prediction right there.

They were great in TFC - in tf2, because the game is much chokier and slower just in general, it would be a nightmare lol.

I've always maintained that once valve decides to nix tf2 in favor of whatever they produce to take its place they will reintroduce grenades for the various classes. My official prediction right there.

They were great in TFC - in tf2, because the game is much chokier and slower just in general, it would be a nightmare lol.
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#24
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They should update the main menu to have competitive tf2 news or something like that, like csgo and dota's main menu iirc

They should update the main menu to have competitive tf2 news or something like that, like csgo and dota's main menu iirc
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#25
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RipTideThey should update the main menu to have competitive tf2 news or something like that, like csgo and dota's main menu iirc

I like that idea. They could probably also incorporate how they have been announcing some competitive news already on their blog at http://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=news

Heck they could probably completely overhaul the main menu and put the whole blog and update notes in there so it's more like it's own whole client. (aka modernizing it) - and so new, young players (that might not know about teamfortress.com) can read news/patch notes directly

[quote=RipTide]They should update the main menu to have competitive tf2 news or something like that, like csgo and dota's main menu iirc[/quote]

I like that idea. They could probably also incorporate how they have been announcing some competitive news already on their blog at http://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=news

Heck they could probably completely overhaul the main menu and put the whole blog and update notes in there so it's more like it's own whole client. (aka modernizing it) - and so new, young players (that might not know about teamfortress.com) can read news/patch notes directly
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#26
1 Frags +

oyster casseroles would be cool

oyster casseroles would be cool
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#27
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Stop dropping me crates from tough break that shit ended a long time ago ffs

Or maybe give players weapons through the drop system as they rank up in casual, with more and potentially better things being dropped if players are playing and ranking up in the comp matchmaking mode

Stop dropping me crates from tough break that shit ended a long time ago ffs

Or maybe give players weapons through the drop system as they rank up in casual, with more and potentially better things being dropped if players are playing and ranking up in the comp matchmaking mode
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