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Microsoft Surface Studio
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I find it pretty cool tbh. Now i want to see if many designers & stuff still stick to Apple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzMLA8YIgG0

Specs:

  • 12,5 mm display thickness
  • 28″ PixelSense Display
  • 3:2 format
  • 13.5 milion pixel
  • TrueColor Technology
  • DCI-P3
  • Until 32 GB DDR4 RAM
  • CPU Intel i7
  • 2 TB hybrid storage
  • HD Camera
  • Windows Hello
  • Surface Dial (the new peripheral device)
  • Preorder 3000 $
I find it pretty cool tbh. Now i want to see if many designers & stuff still stick to Apple
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzMLA8YIgG0[/youtube]
[b]Specs:[/b]
[list]
[*] 12,5 mm display thickness
[*] 28″ PixelSense Display
[*] 3:2 format
[*] 13.5 milion pixel
[*] TrueColor Technology
[*] DCI-P3
[*] Until 32 GB DDR4 RAM
[*] CPU Intel i7
[*] 2 TB hybrid storage
[*] HD Camera
[*] Windows Hello
[*] Surface Dial (the new peripheral device)
[*] Preorder 3000 $
[/list]
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The main reason a lot of designers stick with Apple is because they're used to using the operating system, and the screens are dope. The people at the photography studio I work at have definitely paid attention to this though.

I just linked them this video and one boss said "yeah but it's windows not mac" and the other said "i want it sooo much".

The main reason a lot of designers stick with Apple is because they're used to using the operating system, and the screens are dope. The people at the photography studio I work at have definitely paid attention to this though.

I just linked them this video and one boss said "yeah but it's windows not mac" and the other said "i want it sooo much".
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Seems like thermal throttling hell to me TBH.

Seems like thermal throttling hell to me TBH.
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microsoft living in the future what is that dial

microsoft living in the future what is that dial
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Apple displays and trackpads still are better than anything else out there somehow

Apple displays and trackpads still are better than anything else out there somehow
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jdmApple displays and trackpads still are better than anything else out there somehow

They've litterally just annunced it. Shouldn't we at least wait a bit before saying "apple make it better"?

[quote=jdm]Apple displays and trackpads still are better than anything else out there somehow[/quote]
They've litterally just annunced it. Shouldn't we at least wait a bit before saying "apple make it better"?
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Apple has simply not made the jump to make computers with touchscreens or convertible tablets, which is a little bit weird considering they've had the "creatives" market for a while.

This is really cool.

Apple has simply not made the jump to make computers with touchscreens or convertible tablets, which is a little bit weird considering they've had the "creatives" market for a while.

This is really cool.
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AndKennethApple has simply not made the jump to make computers with touchscreens or convertible tablets, which is a little bit weird considering they've had the "creatives" market for a while.

This is really cool.

isnt this what the ipadpro is supposed to be?

[quote=AndKenneth]Apple has simply not made the jump to make computers with touchscreens or convertible tablets, which is a little bit weird considering they've had the "creatives" market for a while.

This is really cool.[/quote]

isnt this what the ipadpro is supposed to be?
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#10
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Oh man, this would be perfect for me [if I could afford it].

I've worked with Cintiqs in my school labs and I've always been a Windows user. I do have a Macbook Pro for portability that I can hook up to my computer but I admit I never got used to the OS no matter how many times I've used iMacs. This will definitely be something I'm looking into especially for industry work if I decide not to invest in a Cintiq HD.

Oh man, this would be perfect for me [if I could afford it].

I've worked with Cintiqs in my school labs and I've always been a Windows user. I do have a Macbook Pro for portability that I can hook up to my computer but I admit I never got used to the OS no matter how many times I've used iMacs. This will definitely be something I'm looking into especially for industry work if I decide not to invest in a Cintiq HD.
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#11
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holy shit that dial looks cool as hell

holy shit that dial looks cool as hell
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What a rip off, pay 2k more for $500 worth of hardware in the same non-upgradable form and same cooling solution.

Designers are going to continue to build PCs, and bootcamp macs.

What a rip off, pay 2k more for $500 worth of hardware in the same non-upgradable form and same cooling solution.

Designers are going to continue to build PCs, and bootcamp macs.
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#13
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Failw1zardWhat a rip off, pay 2k more for $500 worth of hardware in the same non-upgradable form and same cooling solution.

Designers are going to continue to build PCs, and bootcamp macs.

Cintiq 27QHD is the industry standard touch display and sells for $2800 for only just the display, the Surface Studio is starting at $3000 and it includes a computer.

You're just wrong about everything

[quote=Failw1zard]What a rip off, pay 2k more for $500 worth of hardware in the same non-upgradable form and same cooling solution.

Designers are going to continue to build PCs, and bootcamp macs.[/quote]

Cintiq 27QHD is the industry standard touch display and sells for $2800 for only just the display, the Surface Studio is starting at $3000 and it includes a computer.

You're just wrong about everything
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#14
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gimmicky peripherals (puke)

gimmicky peripherals (puke)
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cirlojdmApple displays and trackpads still are better than anything else out there somehowThey've litterally just annunced it. Shouldn't we at least wait a bit before saying "apple make it better"?

Place your bet bro

[quote=cirlo][quote=jdm]Apple displays and trackpads still are better than anything else out there somehow[/quote]
They've litterally just annunced it. Shouldn't we at least wait a bit before saying "apple make it better"?[/quote]

Place your bet bro
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cool

cool
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#17
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dude imagine playing tf2 on this

dude imagine playing tf2 on this
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x

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Firei dont (want to) believe that the majority of designers are using mac because of the mac cases (or hardware in general ...) , but because of the software. i believe that few will make the change to the surface, but it might make windows more attractive for newcomers.

I'm not a designer, but I don't really know if that's the case. Windows is very intuitive to use as it is (as much as mac users like to talk shit, I don't know anyone who switched to windows from mac and found it hard) and for the sake of design software, offers basically everything a mac does (there is some mac exclusive software but all the major industry standards I know (adobe tools, fontlab studio) and their free alternatives (gimp, fontforge) supports windows). For that matter the art school my friend goes to has this dumb rule where they need to buy macs, but then go bootcamp them to windows because some software they use is windows exclusive (while nothing's mac exclusive).

I think it's entirely because Apple has specs for designers and designers who usually aren't technical don't have to deal with all picking between the different hardware options windows computers have. That and the status quo, art schools tend to have their people trained in using macs by convention (historically better for graphics, look nicer), so art students tend to learn macs, so the industry usually uses macs unless they have a reason not to.

It's hard to break an industry standard but it looks like the surface studio will address all of that, if it's done well I do think it'd get adopted by art schools and if anything it should be even easier to use with accessibility tools like that dial thing.

[quote=Fire]i dont (want to) believe that the majority of designers are using mac because of the mac cases (or hardware in general ...) , but because of the software. i believe that few will make the change to the surface, but it might make windows more attractive for newcomers.[/quote]
I'm not a designer, but I don't really know if that's the case. Windows is very intuitive to use as it is (as much as mac users like to talk shit, I don't know anyone who switched to windows from mac and found it hard) and for the sake of design software, offers basically everything a mac does (there is some mac exclusive software but all the major industry standards I know (adobe tools, fontlab studio) and their free alternatives (gimp, fontforge) supports windows). For that matter the art school my friend goes to has this dumb rule where they need to buy macs, but then go bootcamp them to windows because some software they use is windows exclusive (while nothing's mac exclusive).

I think it's entirely because Apple has specs for designers and designers who usually aren't technical don't have to deal with all picking between the different hardware options windows computers have. That and the status quo, art schools tend to have their people trained in using macs by convention (historically better for graphics, look nicer), so art students tend to learn macs, so the industry usually uses macs unless they have a reason not to.

It's hard to break an industry standard but it looks like the surface studio will address all of that, if it's done well I do think it'd get adopted by art schools and if anything it should be even easier to use with accessibility tools like that dial thing.
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gatsandude imagine playing tf2 on this

Yeah 30FPS on mid fights as the laptop CPU overheats and throttles sounds amazing.

[quote=gatsan]dude imagine playing tf2 on this[/quote]
Yeah 30FPS on mid fights as the laptop CPU overheats and throttles sounds amazing.
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am i the only one that has been praying for an epic remake of the willy wonka song like this or

(if this has been out where have i been)

am i the only one that has been praying for an epic remake of the willy wonka song like this or


(if this has been out where have i been)
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#22
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Why is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?

Why is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?
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If i had the monies i'd buy this in a heartbeat.

If i had the monies i'd buy this in a heartbeat.
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the301stspartanWhy is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?

I can but apparently you cant.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio/tech-specs

It clearly states that it will be using laptop parts. Small form factors are prone to thermal throttling issues. Something Apple's similar iMac suffers from.

[quote=the301stspartan]Why is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?[/quote]
I can but apparently you cant.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio/tech-specs

It clearly states that it will be using laptop parts. Small form factors are prone to thermal throttling issues. Something Apple's similar iMac suffers from.
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JarateKingFirei dont (want to) believe that the majority of designers are using mac because of the mac cases (or hardware in general ...) , but because of the software. i believe that few will make the change to the surface, but it might make windows more attractive for newcomers.I'm not a designer, but I don't really know if that's the case. Windows is very intuitive to use as it is (as much as mac users like to talk shit, I don't know anyone who switched to windows from mac and found it hard) and for the sake of design software, offers basically everything a mac does (there is some mac exclusive software but all the major industry standards I know (adobe tools, fontlab studio) and their free alternatives (gimp, fontforge) supports windows). For that matter the art school my friend goes to has this dumb rule where they need to buy macs, but then go bootcamp them to windows because some software they use is windows exclusive (while nothing's mac exclusive).

I think it's entirely because Apple has specs for designers and designers who usually aren't technical don't have to deal with all picking between the different hardware options windows computers have. That and the status quo, art schools tend to have their people trained in using macs by convention (historically better for graphics, look nicer), so art students tend to learn macs, so the industry usually uses macs unless they have a reason not to.

It's hard to break an industry standard but it looks like the surface studio will address all of that, if it's done well I do think it'd get adopted by art schools and if anything it should be even easier to use with accessibility tools like that dial thing.

I know some very tech savvy artists who use mac because of the operative system. Pretty sure that's what fire meant by "software".

[quote=JarateKing][quote=Fire]i dont (want to) believe that the majority of designers are using mac because of the mac cases (or hardware in general ...) , but because of the software. i believe that few will make the change to the surface, but it might make windows more attractive for newcomers.[/quote]
I'm not a designer, but I don't really know if that's the case. Windows is very intuitive to use as it is (as much as mac users like to talk shit, I don't know anyone who switched to windows from mac and found it hard) and for the sake of design software, offers basically everything a mac does (there is some mac exclusive software but all the major industry standards I know (adobe tools, fontlab studio) and their free alternatives (gimp, fontforge) supports windows). For that matter the art school my friend goes to has this dumb rule where they need to buy macs, but then go bootcamp them to windows because some software they use is windows exclusive (while nothing's mac exclusive).

I think it's entirely because Apple has specs for designers and designers who usually aren't technical don't have to deal with all picking between the different hardware options windows computers have. That and the status quo, art schools tend to have their people trained in using macs by convention (historically better for graphics, look nicer), so art students tend to learn macs, so the industry usually uses macs unless they have a reason not to.

It's hard to break an industry standard but it looks like the surface studio will address all of that, if it's done well I do think it'd get adopted by art schools and if anything it should be even easier to use with accessibility tools like that dial thing.[/quote]

I know some very tech savvy artists who use mac because of the operative system. Pretty sure that's what fire meant by "software".
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#26
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Screwballthe301stspartanWhy is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?I can but apparently you cant.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio/tech-specs

It clearly states that it will be using laptop parts. Small form factors are prone to thermal throttling issues. Something Apple's similar iMac suffers from.

Please, enlighten me with your superior reading skills and tell me where this "clearly states it will be using laptop parts"

http://image.prntscr.com/image/01cf071ddd684c55a4b95192f54ab826.png

[quote=Screwball][quote=the301stspartan]Why is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?[/quote]
I can but apparently you cant.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio/tech-specs

It clearly states that it will be using laptop parts. Small form factors are prone to thermal throttling issues. Something Apple's similar iMac suffers from.[/quote]


Please, enlighten me with your superior reading skills and tell me where this "clearly states it will be using laptop parts"
[img]http://image.prntscr.com/image/01cf071ddd684c55a4b95192f54ab826.png[/img]
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the301stspartanScrewballthe301stspartanWhy is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?I can but apparently you cant.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio/tech-specs

It clearly states that it will be using laptop parts. Small form factors are prone to thermal throttling issues. Something Apple's similar iMac suffers from.

Please, enlighten me with your superior reading skills and tell me where this "clearly states it will be using laptop parts"
http://image.prntscr.com/image/01cf071ddd684c55a4b95192f54ab826.png

http://i.imgur.com/i0LHuS7.jpg

WOW that was fucking hard.
The M means MOBILE :O
Considering it is clearly using a mobile GPU it is probably also using a mobile variant of the i5/7. This also makes sense in the context of it's form factor. A desktop CPU in that form factor would either be very loud or very hot and from what i can see from the pictures it clearly doesn't have the necessary ventilation. Have you ever seen a laptop with a desktop CPU? The entire back is a huge open vent and they sound like a jet engine.

http://www.laptopmag.com/images/uploads/4951/g/eon-17-slx-lid.jpg Pic related.

[quote=the301stspartan][quote=Screwball][quote=the301stspartan]Why is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?[/quote]
I can but apparently you cant.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-studio/tech-specs

It clearly states that it will be using laptop parts. Small form factors are prone to thermal throttling issues. Something Apple's similar iMac suffers from.[/quote]


Please, enlighten me with your superior reading skills and tell me where this "clearly states it will be using laptop parts"
[img]http://image.prntscr.com/image/01cf071ddd684c55a4b95192f54ab826.png[/img][/quote]

http://i.imgur.com/i0LHuS7.jpg

WOW that was fucking hard.
The M means [b]MOBILE[/b] :O
Considering it is clearly using a mobile GPU it is probably also using a mobile variant of the i5/7. This also makes sense in the context of it's form factor. A desktop CPU in that form factor would either be very loud or very hot and from what i can see from the pictures it clearly doesn't have the necessary ventilation. Have you ever seen a laptop with a desktop CPU? The entire back is a huge open vent and they sound like a jet engine.

http://www.laptopmag.com/images/uploads/4951/g/eon-17-slx-lid.jpg Pic related.
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#28
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laptop CPUIt clearly states that it will be using laptop parts.WOW that was fucking hard.
The M means MOBILE :O
Considering it is clearly using a mobile GPU it is probably also using a mobile variant of the i5/7.

Truly amazing reading skills coupled with infallible logic. Aristotle himself couldn't have constructed such a formally coherent proof.

Srsly though fuck ur attitude, you tell me "you can't read, it clearly states on this page" then base your argument on what you think could be the hardware, based on what the thing looks like, because it actually doesn't clearly state shit on the page and you don't have the balls to admit that u misread and confused the mobile GPU for mobile CPU.

[quote]laptop CPU[/quote]

[quote]It clearly states that it will be using laptop parts.[/quote]

[quote]WOW that was fucking hard.
The M means MOBILE :O
[/quote]

[quote]Considering it is clearly using a mobile GPU it is probably also using a mobile variant of the i5/7.[/quote]

Truly amazing reading skills coupled with infallible logic. Aristotle himself couldn't have constructed such a formally coherent proof.



Srsly though fuck ur attitude, you tell me "you can't read, it clearly states on this page" then base your argument on [b]what you think[/b] could be the hardware, based on what the thing looks like, because it actually doesn't clearly state shit on the page and you don't have the balls to admit that u misread and confused the mobile GPU for mobile CPU.
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the301stspartanSrsly though fuck ur attitude,You are the own who claimed you tell me "you can't read, it clearly states on this page" then base your argument on what you think could be the hardware, based on what the thing looks like, because it actually doesn't clearly state shit on the page.

Logical conclusions based upon available evidence? It clearly says M on the GPU and the total lack of ventilation means that a desktop CPU in that system would be totally illogical.

Also you are the one who said i contradicted the written specs and claimed i couldn't read.

the301stspartanWhy is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?

Maybe you should learn about things before you talk about them.

[quote=the301stspartan]
Srsly though fuck ur attitude,You are the own who claimed you tell me "you can't read, it clearly states on this page" then base your argument on [b]what you think[/b] could be the hardware, based on what the thing looks like, because it actually doesn't clearly state shit on the page.[/quote]
Logical conclusions based upon available evidence? It clearly says M on the GPU and the total lack of ventilation means that a desktop CPU in that system would be totally illogical.

Also you are the one who said i contradicted the written specs and claimed i couldn't read.
[quote=the301stspartan]Why is everyone who is shittalking this product literally contradicting the written specs? Can't u read?[/quote]
Maybe you should learn about things before you talk about them.
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#30
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you guys are both idiots now stop arguing

you guys are both idiots now stop arguing
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