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#211
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Hopefully this is the right place for this

I've recently come upon a decent sized influx of cash, and I am hoping that you all could help me choose what to upgrade on my current pc.
Here is my computer: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229285

Everything that it listed there, I have except my cpu is an AMD FX-4200, the graphics card is a Radeon 6670, and the case is some Azza case.

I realize that it is pre-made, but when I bought it a while back, I was quite scared of building a pc from scratch, so I took the coward's way out.

The end goal of this is to upgrade the computer to an extent that I can record demos and such in fraps/dxtory and have it not lag, and have enough space to hold the end file (My current 500gb drive is almost full, so any suggestions on an additional drive would be greatly appreciated). I have an upgrading budget of around $300-400.

I will be very grateful for any help I receive

Hopefully this is the right place for this

I've recently come upon a decent sized influx of cash, and I am hoping that you all could help me choose what to upgrade on my current pc.
Here is my computer: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229285

Everything that it listed there, I have except my cpu is an AMD FX-4200, the graphics card is a Radeon 6670, and the case is some Azza case.

I realize that it is pre-made, but when I bought it a while back, I was quite scared of building a pc from scratch, so I took the coward's way out.

The end goal of this is to upgrade the computer to an extent that I can record demos and such in fraps/dxtory and have it not lag, and have enough space to hold the end file (My current 500gb drive is almost full, so any suggestions on an additional drive would be greatly appreciated). I have an upgrading budget of around $300-400.

I will be very grateful for any help I receive
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#212
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Brick_TopNeed some help on my first PC build. Basically the most intensive thing I want to do is be able to play TF2 at near max quality, and stream at 60 fps, HQ at least.

For now,

Intel Core i7 4770 - 200$
Motherboard - ?
GPU, I'm thinking this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Radeon-R9-290-TRI-X-4GB-GDDR5-/201148104551?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2ed55c7f67
Case, Corsair Air 540 with 3 extra fans, 80$
Kingston HyperX Beast 2 x 4 GB Ram 2400 mhz, 90$

Tips?

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/19453/questions-on-first-build/?page=1#333263

This thread may help you. Scroll to the bottom if you want to see the build I may go with based off of some research and people's suggestions. Not sure if this build is overkill or not but depending on when you do your build I could tell you how this build turns out for me by the beginning of september probably.

edit: Just to clarify, I will prob end up going with Setsul's post (#26) in that thread

[quote=Brick_Top]Need some help on my first PC build. Basically the most intensive thing I want to do is be able to play TF2 at near max quality, and stream at 60 fps, HQ at least.

For now,

Intel Core i7 4770 - 200$
Motherboard - ?
GPU, I'm thinking this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Radeon-R9-290-TRI-X-4GB-GDDR5-/201148104551?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2ed55c7f67
Case, Corsair Air 540 with 3 extra fans, 80$
Kingston HyperX Beast 2 x 4 GB Ram 2400 mhz, 90$

Tips?[/quote]
http://teamfortress.tv/thread/19453/questions-on-first-build/?page=1#333263

This thread may help you. Scroll to the bottom if you want to see the build I may go with based off of some research and people's suggestions. Not sure if this build is overkill or not but depending on when you do your build I could tell you how this build turns out for me by the beginning of september probably.

edit: Just to clarify, I will prob end up going with Setsul's post (#26) in that thread
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#213
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fDxWJx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fDxWJx/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($328.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1253.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-16 23:00 EDT-0400

Everything looking okay thus far?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fDxWJx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fDxWJx/by_merchant/

[b]CPU:[/b] Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard[/b]: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Memory:[/b] G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($328.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Case:[/b] NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1253.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-16 23:00 EDT-0400


Everything looking okay thus far?
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#214
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Looks fine but at that price point I'd get an SSD and maybe a better cooler. Maybe an NH-D14 or an H100i or something.

Looks fine but at that price point I'd get an SSD and maybe a better cooler. Maybe an NH-D14 or an H100i or something.
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#215
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delpoLooks fine but at that price point I'd get an SSD and maybe a better cooler. Maybe an NH-D14 or an H100i or something.

The only issue I have with the NH-D14 fans is the really ugly brown color. I'm still on the fence about if the H100i is worth it in comparison to the CM Hyper 212's price. I'll probably end up upgrading hard drive to 2 TB and get a 256 GB Samsung SSD.

[quote=delpo]Looks fine but at that price point I'd get an SSD and maybe a better cooler. Maybe an NH-D14 or an H100i or something.[/quote]


The only issue I have with the NH-D14 fans is the really ugly brown color. I'm still on the fence about if the H100i is worth it in comparison to the CM Hyper 212's price. I'll probably end up upgrading hard drive to 2 TB and get a 256 GB Samsung SSD.
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#216
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Hi, so I rarely play TF2 anymore, and have become pretty involved with CS:GO. As of now I have never owned a nice computer so this will be my first gaming "rig."

From what I have learned CS:GO has integrated graphics, so buying a top end GPU for a gamer who nearly exclusively plays CS:GO is pointless.

I've been looking into some APU's and they seem like they would be very good (for their price)for games with integrated graphics. I decided to look into it and created this: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/jcarpenter/saved/zBFbt6

I some people on youtube with the same APU getting about 50-60 fps in CS:GO on max settings playing with very similar builds. I think with an FPS config they could probably boost to 120? On my PC now I get about 20 fps with (nearly) maxed settings, and I get about 60-80 with a config.

I'm not looking to play games like BF4 or Crysis or anything like that, although I saw this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv57qDXpEPU play BF4 with some pretty sick frames. The video showed off how much high speed RAM can boost the same APU I listed in games like BF4, but even though I won't have RAM anywhere near his, this makes me think the APU has a lot of potential if I upgrade RAM in the future. Also I heard you can add an extra GPU into the system on top of the one integrated into the Kaveri.

My questions:

1. Will I be able to run CS:GO at an average of about 120 fps with a config?
2. Will upgrading to high speed RAM let me be able to play more system intensive games?
3. Can I add a graphics card in the future to the APU? (Run APU and GPU in one system)
4. If I can add a GPU how much will it benefit me in more graphically intensive games?
5. Is it worth the money? The build is bundled on Newegg.com for $380.00 (No Operating Sytem)

Hi, so I rarely play TF2 anymore, and have become pretty involved with CS:GO. As of now I have never owned a nice computer so this will be my first gaming "rig."

From what I have learned CS:GO has integrated graphics, so buying a top end GPU for a gamer who nearly exclusively plays CS:GO is pointless.

I've been looking into some APU's and they seem like they would be very good (for their price)for games with integrated graphics. I decided to look into it and created this: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/jcarpenter/saved/zBFbt6

I some people on youtube with the same APU getting about 50-60 fps in CS:GO on max settings playing with very similar builds. I think with an FPS config they could probably boost to 120? On my PC now I get about 20 fps with (nearly) maxed settings, and I get about 60-80 with a config.

I'm not looking to play games like BF4 or Crysis or anything like that, although I saw this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv57qDXpEPU play BF4 with some pretty sick frames. The video showed off how much high speed RAM can boost the same APU I listed in games like BF4, but even though I won't have RAM anywhere near his, this makes me think the APU has a lot of potential if I upgrade RAM in the future. Also I heard you can add an extra GPU into the system on top of the one integrated into the Kaveri.

My questions:

1. Will I be able to run CS:GO at an average of about 120 fps with a config?
2. Will upgrading to high speed RAM let me be able to play more system intensive games?
3. Can I add a graphics card in the future to the APU? (Run APU and GPU in one system)
4. If I can add a GPU how much will it benefit me in more graphically intensive games?
5. Is it worth the money? The build is bundled on Newegg.com for $380.00 (No Operating Sytem)
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#217
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GroovePCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fDxWJx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fDxWJx/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($328.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1253.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-16 23:00 EDT-0400

Everything looking okay thus far?

Why a 850W PSU? 500W is enough for that build. Also are you planning on overclocking your CPU? If not, then you won't need that fancy mainboard.

Edit: Dont buy corsair PSUs they are shit. Get an Enermax Platimax

[quote=Groove]PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fDxWJx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fDxWJx/by_merchant/

[b]CPU:[/b] Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard[/b]: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Memory:[/b] G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($328.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Case:[/b] NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] Corsair Professional 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1253.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-16 23:00 EDT-0400


Everything looking okay thus far?[/quote]

Why a 850W PSU? 500W is enough for that build. Also are you planning on overclocking your CPU? If not, then you won't need that fancy mainboard.

Edit: Dont buy corsair PSUs they are shit. Get an Enermax Platimax
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#218
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#211
Sorry, but I doubt that it's possible to upgrade it. TF2 is mostly CPU limited so a GPU-only upgrade won't help you much and it's unlikely that the motherboard supports CPUs with a higher TDP. The GPU is worse than most integrated graphics and I wouldn't trust the PSU either unless you can find the model number. HDD and RAM aren't really worth keeping either so you'd probably be better off selling it and building from scratch.

#213
Sure about overclocking?
Any reason for 16GB RAM?
The PSU is massive overkill, even if you went dual GPU it would still be overkill.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($136.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1224.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 06:50 EDT-0400

#216
1. Maybe.
2. Roughly 25% higher fps. High Speed RAM is worth buying for an APU, but not worth upgrading to.
3. Yes.
4. A lot. For the 7850K adding a 260X will get you about 100-150% more fps (yes that's more than twice the fps)
5. If you absolutely need a PC now and don't have more than that yes. In any other situation getting a CPU + dedicated GPU is better.

Something along these lines if you can afford it:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $584.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 07:02 EDT-0400

Smaller budget:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($111.29 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 250 2GB Core Edition Video Card ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $495.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 07:35 EDT-0400

Taken down to the absolute minimum (still better performance than the 7850K and cheaper):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 250 2GB Core Edition Video Card ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $407.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 07:38 EDT-0400

EDIT:
#217
You just went full retard. Never go full retard.
Corsair mid to high-end = Seasonic & Flextronics. Both better and cheaper than Enermax. Especially in the USA where Enermax is overpriced.
low-end to mid both Corsair and Enermax use CWT.
I'd really like to hear what you think about Delta and Super Flower.

#211
Sorry, but I doubt that it's possible to upgrade it. TF2 is mostly CPU limited so a GPU-only upgrade won't help you much and it's unlikely that the motherboard supports CPUs with a higher TDP. The GPU is worse than most integrated graphics and I wouldn't trust the PSU either unless you can find the model number. HDD and RAM aren't really worth keeping either so you'd probably be better off selling it and building from scratch.

#213
Sure about overclocking?
Any reason for 16GB RAM?
The PSU is massive overkill, even if you went dual GPU it would still be overkill.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C9mQK8]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C9mQK8/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k]Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($338.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14]Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($69.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3h]Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($136.00 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd38192m1600hc9dcd]Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($72.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te250bw]Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($129.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr928xoc3gdrev2]Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] ($259.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-phan001wt]NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case[/url] ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs550m]Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas]Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $1224.89
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 06:50 EDT-0400[/i]

#216
1. Maybe.
2. Roughly 25% higher fps. High Speed RAM is worth buying for an APU, but not worth upgrading to.
3. Yes.
4. A lot. For the 7850K adding a 260X will get you about 100-150% more fps (yes that's more than twice the fps)
5. If you absolutely need a PC now and don't have more than that yes. In any other situation getting a CPU + dedicated GPU is better.

Something along these lines if you can afford it:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8GTtLk]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8GTtLk/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i34330]Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($129.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85mpro4]ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($69.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd38192m1600hc9dcd]Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($72.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr726xoc1gd]Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card[/url] ($99.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-spike]Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($29.99 @ Mwave)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($39.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $584.90
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 07:02 EDT-0400[/i]

Smaller budget:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yKtrqs]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yKtrqs/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i34150]Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($111.29 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gah81mh]Gigabyte GA-H81M-H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($44.38 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd38192m1600hc9dcd]Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($72.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r7250aclf4]XFX Radeon R7 250 2GB Core Edition Video Card[/url] ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-spike]Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($29.99 @ Mwave)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-arcm450]Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($24.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $495.59
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 07:35 EDT-0400[/i]

Taken down to the absolute minimum (still better performance than the 7850K and cheaper):
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xnRCZL]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xnRCZL/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad760kwohlbox]AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-a55me33]MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard[/url] ($27.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-ct51264ba1339j]Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory[/url] ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r7250aclf4]XFX Radeon R7 250 2GB Core Edition Video Card[/url] ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-case-vl80001w2z]Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-arcm450]Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($24.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $407.64
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 07:38 EDT-0400[/i]

EDIT:
#217
You just went full retard. Never go full retard.
Corsair mid to high-end = Seasonic & Flextronics. Both better and cheaper than Enermax. Especially in the USA where Enermax is overpriced.
low-end to mid both Corsair and Enermax use CWT.
I'd really like to hear what you think about Delta and Super Flower.
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#219
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Setsul#211
#213
Sure about overclocking?
Any reason for 16GB RAM?
The PSU is massive overkill, even if you went dual GPU it would still be overkill.

Probably not going to overclock it. Do you think I should get 32 GB of ram? I wanted a nice PSU so I could get some upgrades in the future. Do you have any thoughts on the Corsair H100i CPU cooler vs the one I currently have selected?

[quote=Setsul]#211
#213
Sure about overclocking?
Any reason for 16GB RAM?
The PSU is massive overkill, even if you went dual GPU it would still be overkill.
[/quote]


Probably not going to overclock it. Do you think I should get 32 GB of ram? I wanted a nice PSU so I could get some upgrades in the future. Do you have any thoughts on the Corsair H100i CPU cooler vs the one I currently have selected?
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#220
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Setsul#211
Taken down to the absolute minimum (still better performance than the 7850K and cheaper):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 250 2GB Core Edition Video Card ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $407.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 07:38 EDT-0400

This seem pretty solid to me. Does this still seem better than the Original APU bundle? This is like 50$ cheaper since the bundle does not include an OS. Also, am I going to need a CPU cooler to overclock the CPU? After doing some research the processor seems really overclockable. How much better is this CPU compared to the Kaveri APU? You said I might be able to get 120 fps in CS with the apu, will I get it for sure with this build?

[quote=Setsul]#211
Taken down to the absolute minimum (still better performance than the 7850K and cheaper):
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xnRCZL]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xnRCZL/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad760kwohlbox]AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-a55me33]MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard[/url] ($27.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-ct51264ba1339j]Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory[/url] ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r7250aclf4]XFX Radeon R7 250 2GB Core Edition Video Card[/url] ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-case-vl80001w2z]Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-arcm450]Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($24.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $407.64
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 07:38 EDT-0400[/i]
[/quote]
This seem pretty solid to me. Does this still seem better than the Original APU bundle? This is like 50$ cheaper since the bundle does not include an OS. Also, am I going to need a CPU cooler to overclock the CPU? After doing some research the processor seems really overclockable. How much better is this CPU compared to the Kaveri APU? You said I might be able to get 120 fps in CS with the apu, will I get it for sure with this build?
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#221
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GrooveSetsul#211
#213
Sure about overclocking?
Any reason for 16GB RAM?
The PSU is massive overkill, even if you went dual GPU it would still be overkill.

Probably not going to overclock it. Do you think I should get 32 GB of ram? I wanted a nice PSU so I could get some upgrades in the future. Do you have any thoughts on the Corsair H100i CPU cooler vs the one I currently have selected?

If you're not overclocking then you won't need a "k" series processor or such an expensive motherboard. The 212 will be more than enough as well. 16 GB of ram is more than you need if you're just gaming on your pc, 8 GB will serve perfectly fine.

[quote=Groove][quote=Setsul]#211
#213
Sure about overclocking?
Any reason for 16GB RAM?
The PSU is massive overkill, even if you went dual GPU it would still be overkill.
[/quote]


Probably not going to overclock it. Do you think I should get 32 GB of ram? I wanted a nice PSU so I could get some upgrades in the future. Do you have any thoughts on the Corsair H100i CPU cooler vs the one I currently have selected?[/quote]
If you're not overclocking then you won't need a "k" series processor or such an expensive motherboard. The 212 will be more than enough as well. 16 GB of ram is more than you need if you're just gaming on your pc, 8 GB will serve perfectly fine.
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#222
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delpoIf you're not overclocking then you won't need a "k" series processor or such an expensive motherboard. The 212 will be more than enough as well. 16 GB of ram is more than you need if you're just gaming on your pc, 8 GB will serve perfectly fine.

I'll be doing heavier stuff than just gaming on this PC. How does this build look?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/32mWJx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/32mWJx/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($111.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($205.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1058.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 14:44 EDT-0400

[quote=delpo]If you're not overclocking then you won't need a "k" series processor or such an expensive motherboard. The 212 will be more than enough as well. 16 GB of ram is more than you need if you're just gaming on your pc, 8 GB will serve perfectly fine.[/quote]

I'll be doing heavier stuff than just gaming on this PC. How does this build look?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/32mWJx
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/32mWJx/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($111.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($205.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1058.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 14:44 EDT-0400
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#223
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#219
I think 8GB RAM are enough.
The PSU I suggested should be enough if you upgrade to a CPU or GPU that's more power hungry, although there aren't many that are.
There's a debate about which one's performs better (different people get different results). Let's say it's pretty close and the NH-D14 is cheaper and more importantly quieter.
Though you won't need an aftermarket cooler if you don't overclock.

Here's a new suggestion without overclocking.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($349.60 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1039.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 17:18 EDT-0400

What's your budget?
Depending on that a 290X, 780 Ti or if you're willing to wait a month an 880 might be possible.
You can also get a Xeon E3-1241 v3, an i7-4790 or an i7-4790K instead of the Xeon E3-1231 v3. You'd get 0.1/0.2/0.6GHz more for 20/50/90$ more, which I don't think is worth it. If your budget allows it you could throw in 150$ to get an 4790K and a Z87/Z97 motherboard and a slightly more powerful PSU. That's ~18% higher clockrate, the option to buy an aftermarket cooler and overclock later on, a few more chipset features and the option of going dual GPU sometime in the future.

#220
Please tell me your budget.
That build is really cutting corners, at that point any dollar more will improve performance. The motherboard won't suffice for overclocking, it was just meant as an option if your budget is only 400$.
The 760K is actually slightly slower than the 7850K. It'll overclock higher so in the you'll get the same or better performance. The main difference is price and the GPU. Even a 250 is already slightly better (and cheaper), if you can spare 30$ more for a 260X you'll get more than twice the fps in most games. So unless you're really hard-pressed for money right now (why do you want to buy a PC then?) there's no reason not to do so.

For 80$ more than the APU bundle you can get something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($83.69 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($55.18 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $543.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 18:10 EDT-0400

At least the same fps in CS:GO on minimum settings (when only the CPU matters). In pretty much any other game or if you even glance at higher quality options in CS:GO (when the GPU comes into play) it'll run circles around the APU build. We're talking about 2.5 times the fps in extreme cases.

#222
What kind of "heavier stuff" will you be doing?

#219
I think 8GB RAM are enough.
The PSU I suggested should be enough if you upgrade to a CPU or GPU that's more power hungry, although there aren't many that are.
There's a debate about which one's performs better (different people get different results). Let's say it's pretty close and the NH-D14 is cheaper and more importantly quieter.
Though you won't need an aftermarket cooler if you don't overclock.

Here's a new suggestion without overclocking.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7VbdGX]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7VbdGX/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85mpro4]ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($69.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd38192m1600hc9dcd]Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($72.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te250bw]Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($129.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr92904gbd5ppdhe]PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card[/url] ($349.60 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs550m]Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($64.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas]Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($19.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $1039.50
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 17:18 EDT-0400[/i]

What's your budget?
Depending on that a 290X, 780 Ti or if you're willing to wait a month an 880 might be possible.
You can also get a Xeon E3-1241 v3, an i7-4790 or an i7-4790K instead of the Xeon E3-1231 v3. You'd get 0.1/0.2/0.6GHz more for 20/50/90$ more, which I don't think is worth it. If your budget allows it you could throw in 150$ to get an 4790K and a Z87/Z97 motherboard and a slightly more powerful PSU. That's ~18% higher clockrate, the option to buy an aftermarket cooler and overclock later on, a few more chipset features and the option of going dual GPU sometime in the future.

#220
Please tell me your budget.
That build is really cutting corners, at that point any dollar more will improve performance. The motherboard won't suffice for overclocking, it was just meant as an option if your budget is only 400$.
The 760K is actually slightly slower than the 7850K. It'll overclock higher so in the you'll get the same or better performance. The main difference is price and the GPU. Even a 250 is already slightly better (and cheaper), if you can spare 30$ more for a 260X you'll get more than twice the fps in most games. So unless you're really hard-pressed for money right now (why do you want to buy a PC then?) there's no reason not to do so.

For 80$ more than the APU bundle you can get something like this:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pM6NG]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3pM6NG/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad760kwohlbox]AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($83.69 @ Amazon)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2]Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($24.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaf2a88xmhd3]Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard[/url] ($55.18 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd38192m1600hc9dcd]Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($72.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr726xoc2gdrev2]Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card[/url] ($109.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-spike]Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($29.99 @ Mwave)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-arcm450]Rosewill 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($24.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $543.78
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 18:10 EDT-0400[/i]

At least the same fps in CS:GO on minimum settings (when only the CPU matters). In pretty much any other game or if you even glance at higher quality options in CS:GO (when the GPU comes into play) it'll run circles around the APU build. We're talking about 2.5 times the fps in extreme cases.

#222
What kind of "heavier stuff" will you be doing?
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#224
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@sesul
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/jcarpenter/saved/GNBG3C
Will this be ok? I have a different case (It glows :O) and only 4gb or RAM. I want to upgrade ram at a later time. I can afford about 500ish$

@sesul
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/jcarpenter/saved/GNBG3C
Will this be ok? I have a different case (It glows :O) and only 4gb or RAM. I want to upgrade ram at a later time. I can afford about 500ish$
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#225
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($78.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.84 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($185.38 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $713.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 23:58 EDT-0400

This is going to be my build. Already started ordering parts so no turning back now

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CrdgrH]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CrdgrH/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690]Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-b85g41pcmate]MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($78.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit4g3d1609ds1s00]Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($78.84 @ OutletPC)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp43063kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card[/url] ($185.38 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210e002]NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($47.99 @ Best Buy)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($59.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Total:[/b] $713.16
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-17 23:58 EDT-0400[/i]

This is going to be my build. Already started ordering parts so no turning back now
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#226
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#224
*Setsul ;-)
Keep the Barracuda HDD (2 Cents cheaper than the Constellation atm!!!!!!!) it's got more chache.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kh9XVn
If you just barely can't make 510$ now simply buy the 212 Evo later. The 760K comes with a cooler anyway. You won't be able to overclock as high, but a month on stock clocks before you buy the 212 Evo won't kill you.

#225
gl & hf with the building.
See you in the land of high fps!

#224
*Setsul ;-)
Keep the Barracuda HDD (2 Cents cheaper than the Constellation atm!!!!!!!) it's got more chache.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kh9XVn
If you just barely can't make 510$ now simply buy the 212 Evo later. The 760K comes with a cooler anyway. You won't be able to overclock as high, but a month on stock clocks before you buy the 212 Evo won't kill you.

#225
gl & hf with the building.
See you in the land of high fps!
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#227
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@setsul
alright thanks for everything

@setsul
alright thanks for everything
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#228
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right now i have a i7 870 overclocked

i can get a i7 4770k and motherboard combo for $310

is it worth upgrading for that price? how good is the i7 4770k?

right now i have a i7 870 overclocked

i can get a i7 4770k and motherboard combo for $310

is it worth upgrading for that price? how good is the i7 4770k?
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#229
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clocks & voltage?
Any chance of getting an 4790K?
Which motherboard?

GPU?

The 4770K got about double the raw power, so without knowing the GPU and without specifing a game all I can say is it'll be between the same fps and double the fps. About the same for GPU limited games (most games), about twice the fps for something CPU limited (TF2).

clocks & voltage?
Any chance of getting an 4790K?
Which motherboard?

GPU?

The 4770K got about double the raw power, so without knowing the GPU and without specifing a game all I can say is it'll be between the same fps and double the fps. About the same for GPU limited games (most games), about twice the fps for something CPU limited (TF2).
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#230
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Setsulclocks & voltage?
Any chance of getting an 4790K?
Which motherboard?

GPU?

The 4770K got about double the raw power, so without knowing the GPU and without specifing a game all I can say is it'll be between the same fps and double the fps. About the same for GPU limited games (most games), about twice the fps for something CPU limited (TF2).

right now im stock voltage i7 860 @ 3.7ghz, I don't have any issues running games I used to stream a lot and it was at a fine line of being playable/inputlag.

I have a r9 290 and its always run everything fine,

I have no considered the 4790k because the deal im getting is only for the i7 4770k, i would like to know thew significant differences tho

so at micro center the i7 4770k is $260 and u get $60 off any motherboard u buy so I was thinking of this one

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=250811

http://www.microcenter.com/product/413248/Core_i7_4770K_35GHz_Socket_LGA_1150_Boxed_Processor

i guess the question i was trying to ask is having the i7 4770k w/ mobo combo for around $300 worth it over next few years? or should i wait until i can get a better deal in the future, this deal seems insane tho

I don't want to have to upgrade for years similiar to the initial i7 860 i bought in 2009.. lol

[quote=Setsul]clocks & voltage?
Any chance of getting an 4790K?
Which motherboard?

GPU?

The 4770K got about double the raw power, so without knowing the GPU and without specifing a game all I can say is it'll be between the same fps and double the fps. About the same for GPU limited games (most games), about twice the fps for something CPU limited (TF2).[/quote]


right now im stock voltage i7 860 @ 3.7ghz, I don't have any issues running games I used to stream a lot and it was at a fine line of being playable/inputlag.

I have a r9 290 and its always run everything fine,

I have no considered the 4790k because the deal im getting is only for the i7 4770k, i would like to know thew significant differences tho

so at micro center the i7 4770k is $260 and u get $60 off any motherboard u buy so I was thinking of this one

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=250811

http://www.microcenter.com/product/413248/Core_i7_4770K_35GHz_Socket_LGA_1150_Boxed_Processor

i guess the question i was trying to ask is having the i7 4770k w/ mobo combo for around $300 worth it over next few years? or should i wait until i can get a better deal in the future, this deal seems insane tho

I don't want to have to upgrade for years similiar to the initial i7 860 i bought in 2009.. lol
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#231
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if im making a pc from scratch, is it worth going for the i7 4790k or should i save the ~70 dollars and go for an i5 4690k in conjunction with a gtx 770

if im making a pc from scratch, is it worth going for the i7 4790k or should i save the ~70 dollars and go for an i5 4690k in conjunction with a gtx 770
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#232
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#230
If your fps are then there's no need to upgrade.
For a single 290 you should be fine. If you ever get a second one or a significantly more powerful GPU it's time to upgrade.

microcenter got these deals all the time, consider yourself lucky if one is nearby.

#231
4790K is overkill for a single GPU, especially if it's "just" a 770.
Get the 4690, K only if you'll overclock.

#230
If your fps are then there's no need to upgrade.
For a single 290 you should be fine. If you ever get a second one or a significantly more powerful GPU it's time to upgrade.

microcenter got these deals all the time, consider yourself lucky if one is nearby.

#231
4790K is overkill for a single GPU, especially if it's "just" a 770.
Get the 4690, K only if you'll overclock.
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#233
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I'll be doing some slight overclocking. Mostly will use this build for mech. engineering and gaming/streaming. Tell me whatcha think.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bJPwmG

I'll be doing some slight overclocking. Mostly will use this build for mech. engineering and gaming/streaming. Tell me whatcha think.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bJPwmG
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#234
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£157.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler (£0.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£98.50 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£0.00)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£51.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.34 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£201.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£79.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£0.00)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£80.10 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £705.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-30 19:48 BST+0100

Trying to keep stuff from my current build to save money (CPU Cooler, RAM, PSU and Optical Drive are from my current build - I think they're suitable though.) Probably won't be overclocking. Any thoughts would be much appreciated <3

[url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/f47KsY]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/f47KsY/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690]Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£157.00 @ Aria PC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrtx3e22pkr1]Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] (£0.00)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97xud3h]Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] (£98.50 @ Ebuyer)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-kvr13n9s8k28]Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory[/url] (£0.00)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct128mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£51.00 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£38.34 @ Aria PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr928xoc3gd]Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] (£201.00 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc9011016ww]Corsair Vengeance C70 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (£79.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600]Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] (£0.00)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] (£80.10 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Total:[/b] £705.92
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-30 19:48 BST+0100[/i]

Trying to keep stuff from my current build to save money (CPU Cooler, RAM, PSU and Optical Drive are from my current build - I think they're suitable though.) Probably won't be overclocking. Any thoughts would be much appreciated <3
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#235
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So yesterday my computer met its end, and I am looking for a good computer that fits my budget. I really don't have a lot of ideas on what to get, but I figure if I spend anything less than $900, its not worth buying a new one. I'm mostly looking for a computer to run tf2 well, maybe other games like csgo. Anybody have any good building in the $900 - $1000 range?

So yesterday my computer met its end, and I am looking for a good computer that fits my budget. I really don't have a lot of ideas on what to get, but I figure if I spend anything less than $900, its not worth buying a new one. I'm mostly looking for a computer to run tf2 well, maybe other games like csgo. Anybody have any good building in the $900 - $1000 range?
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#236
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#233
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($127.24 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($118.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($269.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design FD-CA-CORE-3300-BL ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VN248H-P 23.8" Monitor ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1334.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-31 15:26 EDT-0400

Cooler: Same performance, cheaper
Mobo: For just some light oc you can go cheaper, if you want higher quality/oc or more features (e.g. SLI/Crossfire) you need to go higher. I went with cheaper for this one.
SSD: A bit better performance/software. Not much of a difference though.
HDD: A bit cheaper.
GPU: Even for streaming the 280 seems a bit underpowered compared to the 4790K. 280X is better, 290 is still worth a though if your budget allows it. Wait at least two more days, the 285 (280s replacement) is supposed to be released on 2nd September and there should be price drop fon the 280 if everything goes well. Same for the 280X, the 285X is coming in early October.
PSU: Rosewill ARC looks interesting but no reviews yet, until then I won't recommend it. Look for deals/rebate. Might look again when I've got a bit more time.

#234
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£157.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler (£0.00)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£49.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£0.00)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£54.97 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.34 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£201.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£30.37 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£43.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£80.10 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £655.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-31 20:45 BST+0100

Did you plan on going dual GPU?

Mobo: No need for Z97 if you're not overclocking or going dual GPU. Also no need for ATX, mATX is cheaper and smaller.
SSD: A bit better performance/software. Not much of a difference though.
Case: mATX, see mobo.
PSU: 500W should be enough.

#235
Other games? Anything non-source/Valve?
Streaming?
Overclocking?

#233
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wFhWJx]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wFhWJx/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k]Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2]Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($24.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g41pcmate]MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/geil-memory-gev316gb1866c9dc]GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory[/url] ($127.24 @ TigerDirect)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te250bw]Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($118.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr928xoc3gdrev2]Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] ($269.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcacore3300bl]Fractal Design FD-CA-CORE-3300-BL ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($44.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m]Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lg-optical-drive-gh24nsb0]LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($13.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vn248hp]Asus VN248H-P 23.8" Monitor[/url] ($134.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $1334.11
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-31 15:26 EDT-0400[/i]

Cooler: Same performance, cheaper
Mobo: For just some light oc you can go cheaper, if you want higher quality/oc or more features (e.g. SLI/Crossfire) you need to go higher. I went with cheaper for this one.
SSD: A bit better performance/software. Not much of a difference though.
HDD: A bit cheaper.
GPU: Even for streaming the 280 seems a bit underpowered compared to the 4790K. 280X is better, 290 is still worth a though if your budget allows it. Wait at least two more days, the 285 (280s replacement) is supposed to be released on 2nd September and there should be price drop fon the 280 if everything goes well. Same for the 280X, the 285X is coming in early October.
PSU: Rosewill ARC looks interesting but no reviews yet, until then I won't recommend it. Look for deals/rebate. Might look again when I've got a bit more time.


#234
[url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MF36NG]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MF36NG/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690]Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£157.00 @ Aria PC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrtx3e22pkr1]Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] (£0.00)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-b85mg43]MSI B85M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] (£49.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-kvr13n9s8k28]Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory[/url] (£0.00)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te120bw]Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£54.97 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£38.34 @ Aria PC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr928xoc3gd]Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] (£201.00 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (£30.37 @ Ebuyer)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500m]Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] (£43.80 @ Scan.co.uk)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] (£80.10 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Total:[/b] £655.38
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-31 20:45 BST+0100[/i]

Did you plan on going dual GPU?

Mobo: No need for Z97 if you're not overclocking or going dual GPU. Also no need for ATX, mATX is cheaper and smaller.
SSD: A bit better performance/software. Not much of a difference though.
Case: mATX, see mobo.
PSU: 500W should be enough.

#235
Other games? Anything non-source/Valve?
Streaming?
Overclocking?
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#237
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Setsul#233
#235
Other games? Anything non-source/Valve?
Streaming?
Overclocking?

Streaming is cool, but not required. Not a lot of other games. I'm not too familiar with overclocking, but if it gets me more performance for money then it's all good

Thanks for your interest in helping!

[quote=Setsul]#233
#235
Other games? Anything non-source/Valve?
Streaming?
Overclocking?[/quote]

Streaming is cool, but not required. Not a lot of other games. I'm not too familiar with overclocking, but if it gets me more performance for money then it's all good


Thanks for your interest in helping!
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#238
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What games? Just one or two examples.
I'm assuming you got all the peripherals.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($118.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($24.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $995.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-01 14:22 EDT-0400

Overclocking isn't cost effective anymore.
CPU alternatives:
4690 (-30$, -Hyperthreading)
1241 v3 (+20$, +0.1GHz)
4790K (+70$, +0.5GHz)

What games? Just one or two examples.
I'm assuming you got all the peripherals.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tH4KsY]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tH4KsY/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85mpro4]ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($69.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbxl]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($72.00 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7te250bw]Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($118.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr929oc4gd]Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-spike]Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($29.99 @ Mwave)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($24.00 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $995.92
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-01 14:22 EDT-0400[/i]

Overclocking isn't cost effective anymore.
CPU alternatives:
4690 (-30$, -Hyperthreading)
1241 v3 (+20$, +0.1GHz)
4790K (+70$, +0.5GHz)
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#239
2 Frags +

Setsul The God of PC Builds, would you please give me Your knowledge?

Setsul The God of PC Builds, would you please give me Your knowledge?
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#240
2 Frags +

No, it's mine!

I should start exploiting my monopoly.

No, it's mine!

I should start exploiting my monopoly.
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